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― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, June 27, 2020 3:20 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/politics/russia-afghanistan-bounties.html

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:24 (five years ago)

I'll paste the whole thing, because if accurate this may be the most beyond the pale thing vis a vis Russia yet:

A Russian military spy unit offered bounties to Taliban-linked militants to attack coalition forces in Afghanistan, including U.S. and British troops, in a striking escalation of the Kremlin’s hostility toward the United States, American intelligence has found.

The Russian operation, first reported by the New York Times, has generated an intense debate within the Trump administration about how best to respond to a troubling new tactic by a nation that most U.S. officials regard as a potential foe but that President Trump has frequently embraced as a friend, said the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive intelligence matter.
The officials said administration leaders learned of reported bounties in recent months from U.S. intelligence agencies, prompting a series of internal discussions including a large interagency meeting that was held in late March. According to one person familiar with the matter, the responses discussed at that meeting included sending a diplomatic communication to relay disapproval and authorizing new sanctions.

Russian involvement in operations targeting Americans, if confirmed, is likely to lead to outrage on Capitol Hill and questions about why the administration has not responded to it.
Spokesmen for the National Security Council, the Pentagon, and the CIA declined to comment.

It was not immediately clear whether the militants approached by Russia as part of the initiative had succeeded in killing Americans or allied forces. News of the murky initiative comes as American diplomats attempt to kindle political talks that could put end to America’s longest war, now in its 19th year.

Earlier this year, the administration struck an initial peace deal with the Taliban. The agreement, which outlined the full withdrawal of the U.S. military within 14 months, was supposed to lead to a prompt start to talks between militant representatives and the Afghan government.
But the Afghan parties have failed to reach agreement on interim steps, and with the coronavirus crisis taking hold in Afghanistan, those talks have yet to materialize. Hanging over the process is Trump’s oft-stated desire to remove U.S. forces from the country, where local forces have been unable to secure an edge over the Taliban despite two decades of foreign funding and advising.

The attempt to stoke violence against Americans, if confirmed, would also represent a signifiant departure from Moscow’s earlier position toward Islamist militants in Afghanistan. Previously, U.S. officials had cited what they characterized as sporadic, low-level Russian support for the Taliban, including the supply of small arms via Afghanistan’s northern neighbors.

After the Soviet Union’s own punishing insurgent war in Afghanistan in the 1980s, Moscow remained largely in the background in the years after U.S. and NATO forces entered the country in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. But as America’s anxiousness to depart has fueled greater uncertainty, Russia has appeared to attempt to wield greater influence in recent years.

While Moscow’s motives for alleged bounties were not immediately clear, officials said they might include retaliation for the U.S. military’s 2018 killing of Russian mercenary troops working for Yevgeniy Prigozhin, an oligarch with links to Russian President Vladimir Putin, in Syria, or simply, as one official put it, an attempt to “muddy the negotiations on Afghanistan by throwing a stick in that.”

During the Soviet war in Afghanistan, which ended in 1989, the U.S. government provided weaponry and funds to Afghan mujahideen rebels fighting against Soviet forces.

The unit that officials identified as responsible for allegedly offering the bounties has also been linked to the poisoning and attempted murder of former Russian military spy Sergei Skripal in Britain in 2018.

While that attack, along with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and its role in the war in Syria, have generated strong criticism in Europe and from many of Trump’s most senior advisers, the president himself has frequently appeared to have a chummy relationship with Putin, downplaying Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election and other Russian transgressions.

Russia is one of a number of issues on which Trump’s instincts have appeared to differ from those of his senior advisers. The United States has imposed sanctions on Russia over a number of issues, including its invasion of Ukraine, cyberattacks, and election meddling, while the Pentagon has identified Russia as second only to China in terms of its ‘great power’ rivals.
Military officials this month spoke out in unusually harsh terms over what they said was Russia’s decision to provide fourth-generation jet fighters to a rogue general in Libya, adding to a spiraling proxy conflict there.

News of the cloaked operation comes as the Pentagon confirms that it has completed an initial drawdown of American forces to about 8,600 servicemembers from Afghanistan, a first step toward a full withdrawal. Officials have said the full withdrawal remains “conditions-based,” suggesting they will seek to keep a sizable force there if the Taliban does not make a political deal with the Afghanistan government.

While Taliban forces have halted attacks against the United States as part of that deal, the militants have continued to assault Afghan troops, making for what one senior Afghan official described this week as the most deadly conditions in 19 years.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:26 (five years ago)

tomorrow: It could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, ok?

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:37 (five years ago)

Politico article on the Lincoln Project

The moment President Donald Trump started tweeting at 12:46 a.m. about the “RINO Republicans” at the Lincoln Project who’d just run an ad attacking his response to the pandemic, Reed Galen knew his hunch was right: you can trigger a Trump freakout with a little bit of planning and pop psychology.

Galen had co-founded the Lincoln Project, an anti-Trump PAC run by Republicans, with the goal of convincing Americans to vote against him in November. In May, the group thought Trump’s response to the pandemic had created the perfect opportunity to both make their case. Off of a brainwave that cofounder George Conway had during a conversation with his wife, White House adviser Kellyanne Conway, Galen and his small team guessed Trump would be particularly enraged by an in-the-moment ad that portrayed the president as making Americans “weaker, sicker and poorer” than ever before. And they figured the best bet to get to the president would be to target Trump where he was, Washington, D.C., on the channel he watches, Fox News, when he was most likely to be watching, at night.

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“It's not just pissing off Donald Trump. Anybody could do that,” Galen said in an interview, though he admitted to “a modicum of enjoyment” from being the topic of midnight tweetstorm. “It's, to what effect? Like, why are you doing it? And the point is to take him off his game and take his campaign off their game, strategically and tactically, so that the Biden campaign and Joe Biden can have the freedom of movement and the green air to do the things that they need to do.”

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When the Lincoln Project — or “the LP,” as cofounder Rick Wilson, a veteran GOP ad maker, calls it — launched in December of 2019, the group included a trollish cadre of social media-savvy Never Trumpers with experience running campaigns, though several of them still have not met each other. The team promised it would prosecute the case against Trump, explaining to voters why a rising stock market (pre-coronavirus) wasn’t enough to reelect the president. Yet the group’s first round of ads, cut during Trump’s impeachment trial, got lost in the process, racking up hundreds of thousands of views at best.

With the pandemic, however, Trump has made the case against himself, Galen argued. From his early dismissals of the burgeoning outbreak to his suggestion that injecting “disinfectant” into the lungs might help fight coronavirus, and his flat-out insistence that he wanted to slow testing down in order to suppress the number of COVID-19 cases, the president has generated his own attack ad copy.

“We already had a plan in place which was prosecute him, prosecute him, prosecute him,” Galen said. “The difference is that he became a much weaker defendant, all on his own, because of his own faults.”

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:52 (five years ago)

They deserve each other.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:58 (five years ago)

the LP

More like a cassette maxisingle, but whatevz

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:01 (five years ago)

Dick Cheney.... welcome to the resistance. pic.twitter.com/gez5481WpF

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) June 26, 2020

rob, Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:08 (five years ago)

one of the guys i'd be happy with not surviving the pandemic

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:10 (five years ago)

I'll paste the whole thing, because if accurate this may be the most beyond the pale thing vis a vis Russia yet:

It knocks Benghazi into a tin bucket, for sure.

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:11 (five years ago)

Remember, if the troops don't support the dear leader, then it doesn't matter whether they die because they're not real Americans!

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 27 June 2020 16:12 (five years ago)

uuuuuugh

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-27/trump-ally-owens-sows-division-among-other-black-supporters

The White House’s embrace of a prominent Black advocate for Donald Trump who made inflammatory remarks about George Floyd has caused turmoil among other African Americans close to the president, threatening their support for his re-election.

The dispute began earlier this month, shortly after Floyd’s death in the custody of Minneapolis police. Candace Owens, a Black author and pundit known for her aggressive support for Trump and provocative views on race, called Floyd a “violent criminal” and a “horrible human being” in a video she posted on Twitter.

She also criticized Ahmaud Arbery, a Black man allegedly murdered by two armed White men in Georgia in February, accusing him of breaking into homes before he was killed.

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 27 June 2020 17:13 (five years ago)

who'da thunk tokenism was a bad thing

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 June 2020 17:42 (five years ago)

nothing to see here, just a woman on the make

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 27 June 2020 17:47 (five years ago)

just for the avoidance of doubt: everyone involved in the lincoln project is a terrible person, and the only reason they're not advocating we all vote for trump is they have a thesaurus and an NRO subscription and are more alive than most to the distinctions of social class.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:18 (five years ago)

DON: well, yeah.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:22 (five years ago)

i like how the lincoln project has an almost certainly fake lincoln quote in their twitter bio

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:29 (five years ago)

"This Bob Marley fellow is overrated."

-- Abraham Lincoln --

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:34 (five years ago)

kinda thought that nyt report would be higher up on the homepage

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 June 2020 20:21 (five years ago)

people involved in the lincoln project may be horrible people in their own right but i'm not going to complain about what they are doing.

akm, Saturday, 27 June 2020 20:27 (five years ago)

Good for them for grifting rich dumb donors but the only people who are going to watch their shit and care are Resistance Twitter numbskulls.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 27 June 2020 20:35 (five years ago)

And Trump

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 27 June 2020 20:46 (five years ago)

can someone replace milo's user name with a picture of a skipping record

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 June 2020 21:16 (five years ago)

lol okay

JUST IN - @PressSec says neither Trump nor Pence were briefed on the "alleged Russian bounty intelligence" first reported by NYT

— Josh Lederman (@JoshNBCNews) June 27, 2020

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 June 2020 21:49 (five years ago)

i thought Trump was on the inside of all this, wot briefing

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:05 (five years ago)

he gets his briefings on toilet paper each day

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:06 (five years ago)

His briefings are highly simplified so as not to cut into his viewing time for The Gorilla Channel.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:18 (five years ago)

Trump literally doesn’t take briefings because they’re boring so that may actually be true.

circa1916, Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:20 (five years ago)

btw morbs, press secretary kaleigh mcenany is married to journeyman lefty and former met sean gilmartin

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:23 (five years ago)

never met the Met

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:25 (five years ago)

and even tho he pitched in the '15 WS, I don't really remember him

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:27 (five years ago)

Ron Swoboda for Prez

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:28 (five years ago)

Forgot all about The Gorilla Channel.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:30 (five years ago)

Negligent, stupid or malevolent: the eternal question

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:31 (five years ago)

It's more like a sandwich, notated thusly:

stupid
negligent
malevolent
stupid

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:43 (five years ago)

^^The worst Blimpie

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:49 (five years ago)

many xposts but re: "architect as a verb", KM's response: "It sure can, but it is frowned upon"; by whom? If you work in software development you'll hear it 1000x a day. I may be more tolerant of it since I'm a Director of Engineering, concentrating on front-end architecture. So I have to say it constantly.

akm, Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:53 (five years ago)

you have been corrupted

j., Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:59 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYvUDkfBAIQ

Two Spocks Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 June 2020 23:00 (five years ago)

lol, yeah last night I was typing/deleting something about how it is the trademark of middle managers with something to prove

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 27 June 2020 23:43 (five years ago)

Middle managers who actually deal with architecture, though, that makes sense. Just realize that the term spread far beyond, to ridiculous situations, and now people like Ivanka use it as a synonym for “build” or “develop”

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 27 June 2020 23:44 (five years ago)

That was a helluva Best New Artist crop for '88.
Little Richard is god of course.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 28 June 2020 01:54 (five years ago)

Do architects say "architect," tho? "I've been contracted to architect an office building!"

nickn, Sunday, 28 June 2020 03:54 (five years ago)

Would have thought draft or similar.
Architect using human interaction as structure though, somewhat iffy.

& looking at the comments on the Lincoln Project a few messages back remembering that Abe was a racist who wanted freed blacks to be repatriated to Africa rather than live with them. Maybe it reflects race epistemology of the time but still far from being an enlightened living saint. Didn't he only free the slaves as a tactical move too?

Stevolende, Sunday, 28 June 2020 06:50 (five years ago)

I've heard it both ways. That it was a tactical move to screw the South, and that it was something he cared about and wanted done but the way to do it under the circumstances was to make it a war issue. If he outright tried to ban slavery, the courts would have declared it unconstitutional.

Cow_Art, Sunday, 28 June 2020 07:22 (five years ago)

Lincoln had a long history of detesting slavery and wished to see it gone but by 1861 all he could do was contain its spread. At the height of the war, terrified he'd lose the border states, he rescinded military orders emancipating captured slaves; he wanted to hold those states and claim a few victories before releasing the Proclamation. He hung onto repatriation as panacea for way too long. By the end of his life, thanks in part to the influence of men like Frederick Douglass and watching how well the freedmen fought in Northern divisions, he said he wished to extend the franchise to the soldiers and "the very intelligent."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 June 2020 13:17 (five years ago)

An honest dogwhistle mistake, I'm sure:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/28/politics/trump-tweet-supporters-man-chants-white-power/index.html

pomenitul, Sunday, 28 June 2020 13:36 (five years ago)

ah, The Villages! An STD vector!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 June 2020 13:38 (five years ago)

I assumed it was something you could hear in the background or whatever but no it’s like, front and center, right at the beginning

You know what that means, time for another round of “I have not seen that particular tweet”

frogbs, Sunday, 28 June 2020 13:47 (five years ago)

In 50 years this history book chapter is going to be so fucked up for so many reasons. "So there was a pandemic and he did next to nothing?" "He tweeted someone saying white power?" "What's a tweet?" "What's a meme?" "What's a white person?"

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 June 2020 13:53 (five years ago)


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