and also I think Loki once mentioned LabourList is run by Will Straw
― calzino, Friday, 26 June 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link
Careening rapidly from ‘is this a party I want to be a member of?’ to ‘under what circumstances is this a party I could bring myself to vote for?’.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 27 June 2020 05:49 (three years ago) link
You could launch an initiative like this, if you were minded to, by saying ‘building on the manifesto pledges of better support to veterans around mental health and homelessness, and better pay and conditions for serving personnel, we want to ensure that we’re working constructively with the people who serve the country and that their voice is heard in the party’ but what kind of dog whistle would that be?
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 27 June 2020 05:55 (three years ago) link
tbf i used to remind myself when they were under Blair that the history of the Labour party has always been more cunts than champions.
the social Left (ffs) have always been outliers in this grim angry nation
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 06:18 (three years ago) link
if military cunts aren't happy they should unionize
For sure, I’ve voted for bad Labour governments in the past and likely will again. I think I’ve been more fair to Starmer than many and have long been resigned to them being sub-optimal on policy to appeal to swing voters. The inability to make even simple statements without getting in a dig at Corbyn or foghorning ‘we are not like them’ (‘them’ in this case being every perverse right-wing distortion of the multiracial, multigenerational coalition that came together for mild social justice reforms) feels needless and petty - but also calculated specifically to ensure that left-wing voters don’t feel comfortable under the Labour banner. They could have taken a big tent approach and it looks like they aren’t particularly interested.
I’m sure they’ve done the maths and have worked out that for every three left-wing BAME voters they lose in safe or unwinnable seats they can pick up one 53-year-old quantity surveyor in Newcastle-under-Lyme who doesn’t consider themselves racist but believes in sensible controls on Muslims and that, so good luck to them.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 27 June 2020 08:08 (three years ago) link
i didn't disagree with you on most of your comments on Starmzy
also calz much as i love you there's always been the possibility of a middle ground between Blairite bullshit and actual socialism and i don't think Starmz was obviously the former, at least at first
i don't think this has to be a question of strategy tho, just kneerjerk instinct towards a Blue-ish Labour. i doubt it's calculation so much as authentic reactionary cuntness.
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 08:35 (three years ago) link
Labour under Corbyn made a great offer to the Forces community. The misinformation ensured it didn’t cut through.As an Army wife I was really impressed with the 5 pledges and the wider vision.This 👇 right wing banging the patriotism drum, no thanks. #ArmedForcesDay2020 https://t.co/s2Sn2Jtwsu— Tina McKay (@TinaMcKay_) June 27, 2020
It remains to be seen whether right-wing "party of armed forces" posturing will also include any policy that improves on what Corbyn offered them, but at this point it is just a signalling game, but unfortunately he is signalling to the type of morons Ian Austin would consider salt of the earth and possibly voted for Ukip or the Tories in the last decade.
― calzino, Saturday, 27 June 2020 08:47 (three years ago) link
I’m sure they’ve done the maths
I'm not sure anyone in the Labour party, good or bad, has ever done any maths. Even the few good ones aren't the sharpest shanks
― anvil, Saturday, 27 June 2020 08:49 (three years ago) link
xp
no doubt yeah
also fuck the army and the rest of them
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 08:51 (three years ago) link
also xp yes anvil speaking truth to poo-er
Its pretty easy to nullify the Labour party, just lock them in an unlocked room
― anvil, Saturday, 27 June 2020 08:51 (three years ago) link
save the key and lock for a rainy day dont waste it
― anvil, Saturday, 27 June 2020 08:52 (three years ago) link
last night Sarah Vine had to apologise and delete a fake Priyamvada Gopal tweet with a Stalin quote about wiping out the Whites. Shame really, because it would have been sweet to see the gobshite getting sued to fuck!
― calzino, Saturday, 27 June 2020 09:08 (three years ago) link
also would be sweet to wipe out the whites
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 09:09 (three years ago) link
Like as if a respectable History professor and author from Cambridge would be tweeting Stalin quotes out of context to own the nazis! hmm actually I would tbh. But I have the luxury and privilege of being white and could get away with it!
― calzino, Saturday, 27 June 2020 09:13 (three years ago) link
I understand that there are laminated photos of me throughout Cambridge city now attacking me. This is responsibility of Sarah Vine, David Vance and others. If something happens to me, please hold them to account.— Priyamvada Gopal (@PriyamvadaGopal) June 27, 2020
this is getting out of control, some people put themselves in genuine danger just by exercising the slightest bit of intellectual rigour in talking about British colonial history, it's almost like n... ........y!
― calzino, Saturday, 27 June 2020 09:25 (three years ago) link
i read some of the callback midweek, it's almost as if there are still a bunch of racist cunts in the UK
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 09:37 (three years ago) link
it's almost like n... ........y!
I mean I'm not a great fan of that whole beatnik thing but this is a bit harsh on Neal Cassady IMO.
― Tim, Saturday, 27 June 2020 09:48 (three years ago) link
Kerouac is such unreadable garbage, he should have been sent to a mined camp. Lord Buckley is fun tho!
― calzino, Saturday, 27 June 2020 09:54 (three years ago) link
Can someone summarise what's happening with this Gopal situation? Is it a predominantly student led thing by the kind of pricks who would normally vociferously defend free speech, or is it more of an organised social media far right thing where they've decided to go after her for daring to exist too prominently?
― Matt DC, Saturday, 27 June 2020 09:55 (three years ago) link
calz kind of otm about Beatnik writers but as i get older i appreciate the lumpy shittiness as the whole point
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link
xpmight be a bit of both by the sounds of it, either way the laminated pics is sinister stuff. the best thing was despite some of these arseholes going to some effort to get her sacked, she actually got a promotion this week.
― calzino, Saturday, 27 June 2020 10:01 (three years ago) link
She says it's coming from 4chan.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 27 June 2020 10:04 (three years ago) link
Nowhere else to go, innit?
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 June 2020 10:16 (three years ago) link
Newcastle-under-Lyme is the capital of the Nazi Midlands
― hotwire my scampo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 10:18 (three years ago) link
Keir Starmer has launched a new Labour Friends of the Forces engagement programme
please call this #grunts4labour
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Saturday, 27 June 2020 10:18 (three years ago) link
more like #cunts4labour amirite?
― hotwire my scampo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 10:20 (three years ago) link
I most certainly am an honest person. If the Mail published that tweet this morning their lawyers will have OK’d it. I am going to check it now. If she wrote those truly horrible things she should not be a teacher.— Allison Pearson (@allisonpearson) June 27, 2020
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Saturday, 27 June 2020 10:25 (three years ago) link
hey you can be honest and also a psycho nazi
― hotwire my scampo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 10:29 (three years ago) link
Gopal is suing the Mail and Amanda Platell for putting the fake quote in their article this morning.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 27 June 2020 10:57 (three years ago) link
nice!
― calzino, Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:03 (three years ago) link
The longer she keeps it up, the simpler it is for my lawyers. https://t.co/WMBUFapNgJ— Priyamvada Gopal (@PriyamvadaGopal) June 27, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 June 2020 12:17 (three years ago) link
Kuenssberg seems to flirt with Starmer even more than she did with Johnson and it's revolting to see. pic.twitter.com/ssKPnDLKMa— George Dragon (@georgecdragon) June 27, 2020
― scampos mentis (gyac), Saturday, 27 June 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link
fucking hell!
― calzino, Saturday, 27 June 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link
oh no
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 27 June 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link
pesto will be jizzing his britches too no doubt
barf
― specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Saturday, 27 June 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link
'pint' is some good authentocrat signalling tho - hat tip to starmzy
big man should have said 'pint of tennent's and a bag of scampos'for the S-tier kudos mind
― specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Saturday, 27 June 2020 13:49 (three years ago) link
S-tier karma
― covid coronenberg (wins), Saturday, 27 June 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link
great to have such a resoundingly Normal Bloke™️ as LOTO though!
― calzino, Saturday, 27 June 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link
he looks like a cursed face in a slice of bacon, just hideous.
― calzino, Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link
like David Hameron he should be popular with the gammons then
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link
https://i.redd.it/is1i8kb1of751.png
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
finally, we have a real opposition - one led by someone with a stuffed-up nose who Likes A Pint
― specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link
probably a pint of Carlsberg the melt cunt
― hotwire my scampo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link
The frontbencher leaking to the Telegraph is fascinating.
One added: “Rebecca was just anti working with anyone. She wasn’t open to working with the Tories, she took the path of least resistance, which is that anything the Government says is bad. “The unions were just an easy way for her to have a pop at the Government. We got boxed in because she just wasn’t thinking where the issue was going.”
“The unions were just an easy way for her to have a pop at the Government. We got boxed in because she just wasn’t thinking where the issue was going.”
“Come September the pendulum is going to swing straight back to education, with the country looking to its leaders. “It will be a crucial test of this country’s leadership as to whether we can get kids back at school.”
“It will be a crucial test of this country’s leadership as to whether we can get kids back at school.”
This sounds like something you’d say if you were in a coalition.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link
or if you were a Tory cunt
― hotwire my scampo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link
Starmer reminds of this guy we once caught pouring lager down a sink at a house party, whilst trying make it look like he was supping loads. hey I'm a right laddo me, bloody loves the carling black label!
I caught a bit of the AQ repeat earlier. There was some absolutely pathetic "I don't want to politicise this Jenrick situation" soft-soaping from Burnham. These fucking people!
― calzino, Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link
that frontbencher’s name? one k. starmer
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 27 June 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link