the other day Gopal was talking about how within the caste system in India her family would considered the white people within this fucked up hierarchy. But nazi pricks love stripping all nuance away and misquoting her to make her sound anti-white, because we all know white people have had a tough time recently!
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 10:41 (three years ago) link
it's quite annoying to see a good person who doesn't seem to care much for grandstanding twitter wankery getting sucked into a culture war shitstorm.
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 10:45 (three years ago) link
i was stupid enough to read some of the Twitter replies and tbh i'm down for abolishing whiteness by any means necessary now
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2020 10:53 (three years ago) link
"RLB taking a lot of shite for calling Peake a 'diamond'"
What's the problem with this?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 June 2020 10:55 (three years ago) link
xp I spent half an hour reading the replies and reporting them, some were for long standing accounts with plenty of followers
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 25 June 2020 10:57 (three years ago) link
cos the price is two deer
Post has been slept on.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2020 10:59 (three years ago) link
no I flagged it
― specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Thursday, 25 June 2020 11:00 (three years ago) link
Oh sorry - it was the sentiment rather than the term chosen! The people giving her shite should not be.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 25 June 2020 11:16 (three years ago) link
did read as 'talking a lot of shite' at first!
― nashwan, Thursday, 25 June 2020 11:20 (three years ago) link
The interview contains a line in which Maxine Peake explicitly links the killing of George Floyd with the Israeli secret service. Given the recent history of the Labour Party I might think twice before offering a glowing endorsement of her given how that endorsement is likely to be spun, and it makes me wonder whether RLB read it in its entirety before sharing it.
I don't think vote-shaming has ever worked and is probably counterproductive but that's the lesser issue here. I'd be surprised if it wasn't deleted.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 June 2020 11:27 (three years ago) link
Not that the Twitter thread itself isn't mostly a load of people joining in a pile-on for the sake of it, but then they nearly always are.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 June 2020 11:29 (three years ago) link
I retweeted Maxine Peake’s article because of her significant achievements and because the thrust of her argument is to stay in the Labour Party. It wasn’t intended to be an endorsement of all aspects of the article. https://t.co/3k6P3hcCgJ— Rebecca Long-Bailey (@RLong_Bailey) June 25, 2020
xp
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 June 2020 11:32 (three years ago) link
Maxine Peake is wrong on that point imo, nobody owes shit to the Labour Party and it isn't a football club and if they want to take people for granted again because they think they've nowhere else to go they might be in for a bit of mauling at the next election!
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 11:38 (three years ago) link
we did anyone but the Tories in '97 and look where it has fucking got us!
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 11:39 (three years ago) link
The interview contains a line in which Maxine Peake explicitly links the killing of George Floyd with the Israeli secret service. Given the recent history of the Labour Party I might think twice before offering a glowing endorsement of her given how that endorsement is likely to be spun, and it makes me wonder whether RLB read it in its entirety before sharing it.I don't think vote-shaming has ever worked and is probably counterproductive but that's the lesser issue here. I'd be surprised if it wasn't deleted.
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:01 (three years ago) link
Yes there's an Amnesty report that says as much but as far as I'm aware it doesn't say that's where kneeling on the neck comes from and making a point of making that link in a national newspaper is a bit dodgy.
Regardless of the truth of it, it isn't a great idea for a Shadow Cabinet member to be seen to be enthusiastically endorsing someone making that point, especially when you come from a wing of the party where the words of every antisemitic prick will be used against you, and it looks like RLB herself has realised that and clarified it.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:19 (three years ago) link
Also it's not like the US police were previously short of ways to kill black people - I dunno, I get the same feeling I got a couple of weeks ago when a load of people on social media were suddenly very keen to make sure people knew all about the Arab slave trade, it's very much "why are you pointing this out now? What's going on in your head that's made you decide it's very important to mention it now?"
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link
Crazy how the same thing happens in Palestine but the world chooses to ignore it pic.twitter.com/7wddf9tUYb— Mohammad Alqadi (@ALQadiPAL) May 30, 2020
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link
Pointing out that the US police gets training / tactics directly from two occupying armies (its own and Israel's) seems relevant tbh.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link
Tankie twitter 🤝 ilx poster gyac
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:32 (three years ago) link
it makes me laugh even after the left of Labour have been completely nullified loads of these worthless pricks still feel the need to jump on a quite innocuous related-to-a-celeb-interview tweet by a minor shadow minister, what a bunch of fucking vindictive arseholes.
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link
Until the left 1) articulate these issue properly and 2) actually expel the cranks out the things that were so difficult for Corbyn etc. will come out in an awkward form, hence RLB's posting today.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link
That's fine but that's different from saying "it was learned from seminars with Israeli secret services". I'm not even accusing her of antisemitism but the way in which you phrase these things matters.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:38 (three years ago) link
Not exactly irrelevant to point out that police brutality is exported and practices shared worldwide. US police definitely took interest in the things that were considered acceptable for Catholic citizens in Northern Ireland, after all.
The rubber bullets that US police officers have been firing so freely were initially designed for use by the British security forces in Northern Ireland, where they killed 17 people. RUC patrols carried weapons, wore flak jackets and drove around in armour-plated vehicles, foreshadowing the militarisation of US policing.
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:38 (three years ago) link
they don't give a shit about Antisemitism, its just a game to them.
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:39 (three years ago) link
I thought we were supposed to be ignoring noise over content.
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link
Easier said than done apparently.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link
YouGov polling of furloughed workers (total population of 8.4 mil):65% are scared of losing their jobs 36% are scared of being unable to pay rent/mortgage If their fears are even half-way justified, this will be an almost unparalleled catastrophe. pic.twitter.com/QEvZxA9qGL— Callum Cant (@CallumCant1) June 25, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link
Some of the biggest arseholes on Labour A/S Twitter are in a FB freelancer group I use for journalism and they are already very busy saying M Peake’s statement about Israeli military is really about All Jewish People, even though it...isn’t?
― santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 25 June 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link
will be interesting to see how starmer handles the issues around human rights abuses by the israeli state given his strong connections to amnesty
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 25 June 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link
and yes, the white brit rock crit people belittling mere *rolls eyes* ~actors~. jesus guys go and sniff your george harrsion records or something
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 25 June 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link
I thought both Starmer and RLB seemed to make it quite clear they wouldn't even say boo to Israel at the Jewish Labour hustings back in Feb, although Starmer does have some form in tailoring what he apparently believes in to play to different audiences, like with Fabian Society knobbers or Scousers!
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link
new party on my desk by 5pm pls
― imago, Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link
NEW: “This afternoon Keir Starmer asked Rebecca Long-Bailey to step down from the Shadow Cabinet. The article Rebecca shared earlier today contained an antisemitic conspiracy theory.— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) June 25, 2020
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link
"As Leader of the Labour Party, Keir has been clear that restoring trust with the Jewish community is a number one priority. Antisemitism takes many different forms and it is important that we all are vigilant against it."— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) June 25, 2020
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
Lol first opportunity
― plax (ico), Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link
🙄
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link
not the sacking i expected to see when i woke up today tbqhwy
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link
Cos he showed her so much respect in the role previously.
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link
just an absolute idiotic kneejerk-off move, but predictable really she was odds to be the first to go. Hope Starmer dies tbh.
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link
odds on!
finally some strong leadership
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link
conspiracy theory my arsehole.
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link
The worst you can say about it was that it was dumb and she should have seen the row coming but definitely not a sacking offence FFS.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link
and meanwhile...
https://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/news/racial-equality-commission-munira-mirza-against-banningbhate-speech-1-6717058
A video has emerged in which the woman leading the government’s commission on racial inequality challenges a Black youth on whether the use of the “N word” is different from calling someone “fat”, and questions whether he is playing the victim.
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link
my hot take is that this makes total sense for Starmer from a realpolitik perspective but it's not like i was gonna vote for the lad anyway
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link
what we really need now in this moment of crisis is a Party run by twitter furores and mortal terror of the media, a political home for the previously politically homeless category of 'cowards and wankers'— Owen Hatherley (@owenhatherley) June 25, 2020
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link
operation make the left quit labour going full steam ahead
― rumpy riser (ogmor), Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link
Successful in my case, as of today.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link
I can't see how they can avoid kicking Peake out if this is the line they're going to take.
Who knew outsourcing your internal disciplinary policies to *checks notes* one of the Guinness Four would end up like this?
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link