I can't imagine what would be fun about the pub right now. Sitting with your pals in a weird pentagram behind perspex screens, watching a harassed member of staff constantly wiping everything down, unable to pick up glasses from the top because you don't want your fingers on the surfaces people have just had in their mouths. If I'm allowed to sit close to my pals again then they're coming to my house where I can be certain the surfaces have been cleaned properly and I'm not going to risk a drunken randomer invade my personal space in the name of friendly banter.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 22:34 (four years ago) link
yeah I would really just like a friend to just come and visit and get drunk in my house tbh
I am pretty isolated! but my nearest friends can't because one of them is a cancer survivor and is classed as vulnerable, so they are still isolating seriously, and my family are miles away and also mostly vulnerable or living with someone who is. I'm thinking of hiring a car so I can drive to the Midlands without getting a train, if they'll let me. would need to find a cat-sitter first tho
― chipstick rebellion (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link
Interesting to see how Kier Starmer has changed his tune from "get a grip you are risking a second wave" to "government is doing the right thing, we support them" isn't it. Almost as if he doesn't believe in anything. @TonePolicingThis was on june 2nd:https://t.co/LNmKwVoWqx— Hunt and Eat Billionaires ☭ Ⓐ ☆ 🦀 ACAB, KTA. (@miriksmit) June 23, 2020
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link
he has been oscillating between the two positions throughout, while managing not to put any real pressure on the govt when he forensically opposes them. Useless tory arsehole¬!
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 23:53 (four years ago) link
useless useful tory arsehole
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:10 (four years ago) link
Can't believe they cancelled the daily briefing show after one season just because the main characters killed loads of people— TechnicallyRon (@TechnicallyRon) June 23, 2020
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 07:25 (four years ago) link
Exclusive: the Home Office has begun the process of evicting hundreds of refugees from its accommodation in England, as the government decides not to extend the ban on asylum seeker evictions. https://t.co/bWqBxpK8qb— Lucie Heath (@luciemheath) June 23, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 09:23 (four years ago) link
Government just killed 65,000 other people - how about we let 65,000 asylum seekers stay in their place?
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 09:30 (four years ago) link
Boris Johnson agrees with a Conservative MP that it is people's “patriotic duty” to go to the pub once they reopen.— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) June 23, 2020
The other thing about avoiding the pubs first thing is that you avoid this crowd too. Maybe 'r' will go up in Tory areas so it's impossible to know whether it's a good thing or not etc.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 09:36 (four years ago) link
sometimes a bit of disease on disease violence is needed
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 09:42 (four years ago) link
Interesting extra detail on government guidance for lockdown easing: There is an additional risk of infection in environments where you or others are singing, chanting, shouting or conversing loudly. This applies even if others are at a distance to you. 1/3
You should therefore avoid environments that require you to raise your voice to communicate with anyone outside your household. All venues should ensure that steps are taken to avoid people needing to unduly raise their voices to each other. 2/3
pubs, famously genteel and quiet public spaces
― specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 09:47 (four years ago) link
will definitely being going to the pub to give a thumbs up to a moulinex
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 09:48 (four years ago) link
RIP gigs
― specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 09:48 (four years ago) link
yeah, live music is still banned from pubs when they re-open
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 09:50 (four years ago) link
A man who killed a landlord because he had been barred from his pub told police “I've stabbed him to f***”, a court has heard.
"Boris Johnson agrees with a Conservative MP that it is people's “patriotic duty” to go to the pub once they reopen."
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 09:52 (four years ago) link
is this part of an "all pubs to be Wetherspoons" plan?
― chipstick rebellion (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 09:53 (four years ago) link
"The pound is now an emerging-market currency in all but name, according to analysts at Bank of America, who say that Brexit has turned it into a mirror of the “small and shrinking” UK economy.
In the four years since the UK voted to leave the EU, trading conditions in the pound and the big swings in exchange rates make it a better match with the Mexican peso than the US dollar, said Kamal Sharma, a currency analyst at BofA. He said that movements in the currency since the June 2016 Brexit vote have become “neurotic at best, unfathomable at worst”."
https://app.ft.com/content/4fd04fd9-7209-4b7c-97a1-97466f226159
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:03 (four years ago) link
Love to hear from BOFA
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:05 (four years ago) link
it's a pretty shit analyst that doesn't even mention what to do with deez nuts !
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:21 (four years ago) link
The important thing about re-opening pubs is that Boris Johnson can feel good about himself again, he can go back to quipping his way back into our hearts with his fun-loving Mr Positivity self-image fully repaired.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:28 (four years ago) link
look the sooner everybody's drunk the sooner we can forget about the body count
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:30 (four years ago) link
“neurotic at best, unfathomable at worst
this is the most fertile ground for disaster capitalism surely
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:32 (four years ago) link
> Home Office has begun the process of evicting hundreds of refugees
the same day Pritti has had to admit that they will enact all the recommendations from the Windrush report.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/23/uk-government-to-act-on-all-30-windrush-recommendations
― koogs, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:32 (four years ago) link
Other than the NHS, is there much left to privatise?
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:33 (four years ago) link
DWP
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:38 (four years ago) link
didn't they re-nationalise some railways?
― koogs, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:39 (four years ago) link
They're in the process of reversing the Grayling privatisations.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:42 (four years ago) link
they re-nationalised the parole service the other day too
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:47 (four years ago) link
can nationalised sausages be far behind
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:53 (four years ago) link
Keir Starmer concludes by saying the PM "dodges the question or gives dodgy answers", then leans into lawyer accusation: "No more witnesses, I rest my case." #PMQs— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) June 24, 2020
😷
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 11:26 (four years ago) link
http://www.lowculture.com/archives/images/kerry_convention_salute.jpg
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 11:28 (four years ago) link
This is on the incoming fire sale:
https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/20/pandemic-fire-sale-property-assets-sunak-jenrick-sadiq-khan?
Just adds to the re-nationalize pile once communism comes in.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 11:33 (four years ago) link
Critical support for Comrade Chris Grayling, doing important cointelpro work to popularise nationalisation.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 11:51 (four years ago) link
Land seems like a likely answer but it looks like we're going to have a huge amount of commercial space under-utilised for years to come. I can't imagine the business case for building new offices is strong. Flooding the market with more private housing when there's already a risk to the stability of prices would be a gamble.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 11:51 (four years ago) link
Briefly, this means anyone accusing an MP of abuse doesn’t have to have the accusation dissected in a parliamentary debate. Can’t wait to see the names who voted against it.
And crucially a debate where the accuser has parliamentary privilege?
Wonder how different things would've been if legend Bozza had carked it?
Raab or Gove would have stepped up to the plate in true "cometh the hour" style, dithered around doing fuck all and the outcome would've been the same, other than that the Tories would've self-destructed over the new danger to the Brexit Project and become even more distracted by that.
Also the Tory party would almost certainly have failed to resist the opportunity to dissolve into factional fighting - everyone would claim that they are the only true heir to Boris's "can win elections" aura.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 11:57 (four years ago) link
I wonder whether any of the 'hawks' have tested positive. There's a theory that Bolsonaro's continued oafishness wrt COVID is partly because he had it and barely felt ill so he thinks everyone else should just pull their socks up and power through.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 12:01 (four years ago) link
too rational
― nashwan, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 12:19 (four years ago) link
/ Briefly, this means anyone accusing an MP of abuse doesn’t have to have the accusation dissected in a parliamentary debate. Can’t wait to see the names who voted against it./Andrea Leadsom, Penny Mordaunt and some obscure backbencher called Theresa May.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 12:28 (four years ago) link
Interesting to see how Kier Starmer has changed his tune from "get a grip you are risking a second wave" to "government is doing the right thing, we support them" isn't it.
Watched a bit of PMQs and this is the line of attack/deflection that Johnson has settled on, in answer to almost every question. In reality the Labour line has been consistent for weeks now, variants on 'we want them to succeed in getting the pandemic under control, why aren't they?' And that's pretty much where most of the country is right now.
The Starmer approach is very much asking a question knowing that the PM will either bluster through it, lie about the numbers or get them wrong, and then have the government's own numbers ready for the follow-up. It's probably better to create the impression that Johnson can't remember his numbers, as opposed to lying about them, because that contributes to the narrative that Johnson just isn't capable of doing the job, a narrative to which increasing numbers of Tory backbenchers also appear to subscribe.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 12:35 (four years ago) link
A subplot to last night's vote was the number of new Tory MPs who were perfectly happy to vote against the government, probably because they don't believe they have a long-term future/career in Parliament and see this as the best way to prolong it.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 12:40 (four years ago) link
There's also a definite factor of 'Labour were seen as needlessly obstructive over Brexit and can't be seen to be needlessly obstructive now'.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 12:55 (four years ago) link
If that is the logic why Starmer would find some way to triangulate having a shit or telling someone the correct. Then that is why the gutless tory cunt will never amount to anything, triangulated his arse into the delta quadrant!
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:02 (four years ago) link
Correct time. Shit posting on phone!
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:03 (four years ago) link
Probably a bad idea to be seen to be actively hoping for Tory failure given that would mean thousands more avoidable deaths.
The actual lines of attack - on failure of test-and-trace and child poverty, were pretty well chosen. Johnson tried to bounce the child poverty question into an issue over schools so he could say "yo yo-ing" for the tenth time but I'm not sure it quite landed.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:08 (four years ago) link
They concluded that Boris pulled that 400000 number out of his rectum re:child poverty on the R 4 stats show earlier, but nothing matters.
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:12 (four years ago) link
it’s always a good time to actively hope for tory failure
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:28 (four years ago) link
Nothing to see here.
.@eastantrimmp asks the Prime Minister to explain, “how Northern Ireland can remain a full part of the United Kingdom if people coming from the rest of the UK into Northern Ireland have to pass through a border control post?”. pic.twitter.com/zN7h94mdK7— DUP (@duponline) June 24, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:31 (four years ago) link
You tell 'em, Sammy.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:35 (four years ago) link
People were always sitting that far from him even before the rona y/n
― nashwan, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:36 (four years ago) link
boris' little half-smirk as he blithely rolls out the purest bullshit in response to questions will never not be profoundly punchable
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link