it's gonna be lit
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 10:13 (three years ago) link
ah sat at the bar reading the goal Rona proximity alerts as they come in!
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 10:42 (three years ago) link
I think that packed public transport and offices are probably worse tbh but yeah if this fucks up it's going to be bad.
At the same time we have been predicting an imminent rise in infection rates since VE Day now and it doesn't seem to have happened, even in cities with thousands of people out in the street protesting and being kettled. But indoor socialising is an entirely different thing.
Feels like a gamble that community transmission is low enough to be vaguely sort-of safe enough (ie with most cases happening in hospitals or care homes). Even socially distanced pubs aren't going to be a fraction of what we had back in March with thousands of people going to sporting events, piling onto trains and into bars etc.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 10:43 (three years ago) link
Also given what's been said about booze clouding judgement, there's almost inevitably going to be a lot of people hugging strangers, not to mention the fact that there are a lot of people out there who haven't had even the chance to get laid in three months. Chuck the hot weather in there as well and, yeah.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 10:46 (three years ago) link
it's gonna be super lit
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 10:47 (three years ago) link
Never mind strangers, I'd not trust myself not to hug friends - particularly the ones that have been suffering most from the lack of physical contant.
― LOScamposinos (Andrew Farrell), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 11:34 (three years ago) link
That's slightly less of an issue from and test and trace point of view though.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 11:55 (three years ago) link
NHS has brought forward their planning to deal with the second wave in August/Sept rather than Oct/Nov as originally planned. That, combined with possible immunity being much lower than expected, raises the prospect of a 3rd, 4th or even 5th wave before we get a vaccine— Pukkah Punjabi (@PukkahPunjabi) June 23, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 11:56 (three years ago) link
we should start a pool on what the final uk death toll on this is gonna be
i'm saying 600,000
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:02 (three years ago) link
"final"
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:09 (three years ago) link
well, yeah
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link
i thought about starting a thread for playlist suggestions for music to play on the day when lockdown lifts and we can finally go back to normal, drive wherever, hug anyone, go to pubs - and then i realised it won't work like that, it will just be this slow, staggered, grinding, forward and back and low-level dread. there won't be a 'victory over coronavirus' day.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:17 (three years ago) link
I mean there might yet be a vaccine or the discovery of reliable drugs, the latter of which could happen soon. TBH I think it's more likely to be a long played-out version of the slow drift back to feeling normal you get after a terrorist attack or series of them. But that normality is often illusory, terrorist attacks also result to permanent changes to physical and social infrastructure and there are probably things we should just get used to here as well, in Italy you already have to have your temperature taken before stepping into a bar or restaurant and we'll have those equivalents.
If the second peak is anywhere near as large as the first then it will have been as a result of a calamitous policy bungle but, at risk of hammering this point home too much, we were all doing a lot of things in the run-up to the first peak that we won't be doing any time soon.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link
Also unless some changes are made to social security policy very quickly then there will be deaths from the economic disaster as well, possibly a lot of them.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:26 (three years ago) link
slow, staggered, grinding, forward and back
oh i'll be doing this alright
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link
The whole country's gonna look like an R Kelly video.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:33 (three years ago) link
Specifically the one where that girl gets pissed on
― covid coronenberg (wins), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link
it's the remix to viral transmission
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link
guys
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link
many xps fuck, the last time I hugged someone was an involuntary one at a gig in March when some coked up bloke started talking to me outside, asked me where my missus was, I went "er...", he said "come on mate, what's she done", I said "well, she died". so he hugged me. was too polite to refuse, despite even then thinking it was a bad idea, this was pre-lockdown but it was in the air already
― chipstick rebellion (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link
*frantically googles*
― Ste, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link
please don’t google that
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 13:18 (three years ago) link
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 bookmarkflaglink
More ppl will wfh, avoid public transport, take less holidays and generally become more economically inactive so each wave will kill less.
They may not have any work though.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link
More to the point we will never know less about covid-19 than we did back in January-March this year. The means to lower the death rate are already there, if not by enough yet.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link
I'm going for an optimistic 200k excess deaths by the end of winter 2021.
― BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link
I think it's v much a case of using those masks and hand gels and hoping for the best.
But still a 2nd wave will surely make people think twice about booking a holiday anywhere, or even a day out shopping, or eating out etc.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link
People kept packing out the pubs until the last possible minute so I wouldn't be so sure of that.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link
People know about the risks a lot more, as you say. I think enough will not carry on as if nothing has happened over the last three months to mean a very long recession, at the least.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link
I can’t wait to get back to the pub...and I don’t even drink. Good news for business today and glad we’ll all have a chance to enjoy the summer safely. #4thofJuly pic.twitter.com/6igrPpBu96— Rishi Sunak (@RishiSunak) June 23, 2020
very cool guy, you can see how he has risen up the ladder so fast!
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link
I can't wait for you to all catch the rona... and I didn't even know that beer and pubs contribute £23bn to UK GDP and generate £13bn in tax revenue!
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
Cunt's probably never even been in a pub.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link
Can't wait for his star to come crashing down.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link
The man never drunk a carling in his life
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link
"I wasn't really up for the pubs, but after seeing teetotal Rishi giving the double thumbs up to some electrical appliances, coupled with his insincere tweet ... well I'm raring to sup now"
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link
I like how 95% of the responses are "that's a shop, mate".
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
Sunak there curiously similar to Rory Stewart saying his favourite London boozer was any branch of Pret a Manger?
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link
Social activity in general makes up something like a third of consumption in this country and the longer it takes to get it back properly the worse the recession is going to be.
The quickest way to do that is to get the virus under control properly and we're probably not at that stage yet.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link
i mean if everyone cut their consumer spending by £2000 a year and saved it for housing, there would be an immediate recession and house prices would increase as demand soared— Jon Stone (@joncstone) June 22, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link
https://clickhole.com/time-to-celebrate-the-doomsday-clock-has-been-set-to-wine-oclock/
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
basically the tory fucking idiots are going to make the same mistake they made the first time - starting lockdown too late, probably by 2 or 3 weeks at least - in reverse by opening up things too early. what a mess
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link
Spoilsport. I was out today and apart from a few stragglers in masks it's like the whole thing never happened.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link
Fucking traffic back, ready to mow you down as you cross the road.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link
the no masks thing is just classic "Britain". septic isle
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
this is it isn’t it. total lockdown was a reasonable response to something we knew nothing about and which was spreading v quickly. if you can get the infection numbers down to v low figures and have a good track and trace system in place then it is reasonable to relax constraints and people will also have confidence in it.
Remember Tusk and 'Please do not waste this time' wrt brexit extension? Kinda feel our mostly fake lockdown just bought us some wasted time. We didn't get the numbers low enough and we haven't got adequate TTI in place. Most recent strategy looks to me like "can't we just fucking talk about something else?" while we're still burying almost a thousand people a week.
― BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link
Look at NZ having a shitfit over 2 infected travellers or China reinforcing lockdown in Beijing after 36 cases and compare with UK/US where the response to thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths every day is to stop counting.
― BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
Yeah, this is really fucking unsafe for women particularly. https://t.co/cBeKWomqLK— pickwick (@pickwick) June 23, 2020
― scampos mentis (gyac), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link
Too right. Fuck that.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link
And in other news:
Wow. MPs vote 243-238 IN FAVOUR of Chris Bryant's amendment to rule out Commons debates on serious complaints against MPs— Esther Webber (@estwebber) June 23, 2020
― scampos mentis (gyac), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link
_this is it isn’t it. total lockdown was a reasonable response to something we knew nothing about and which was spreading v quickly. if you can get the infection numbers down to v low figures and have a good track and trace system in place then it is reasonable to relax constraints and people will also have confidence in it._ Remember Tusk and 'Please do not waste this time' wrt brexit extension? Kinda feel our mostly fake lockdown just bought us some wasted time. We didn't get the numbers low enough and we haven't got adequate TTI in place. Most recent strategy looks to me like "can't we just fucking talk about something else?" while we're still burying almost a thousand people a week.
― covid coronenberg (wins), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link