― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:09 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm a bad proselytizer.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link
the last one I saw (as I say, 12) was the one where mrs. echolls jumped from the bridge, logan told his dad off at school and veronica was, once again, pesky.
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbar (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link
yr loving 'ask veronica'
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link
As long as you ignore their genre, plot structure, and the fact that one has an ensemble cast and the other doesn't. They do both take place in towns where crimes are committed and are filmed in front of a live camera crew.
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 03:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:01 (nineteen years ago) link
twin peaks was way more dramatic. what with the "DOOO doooo" music that played everytime a scene ended.
― gunther heartymeal, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Twin peaks is 'something + detective genre' in the same way Mars is 'something + teen drama + detective genre'. They both focus on the place and characters within the place rather than just the murder yet the investigation is used as a catalyst fr character development and insight into place which again promotes the influence of things outside the detective plot.
A marlowe movie like the big sleep couldn't carry on after the plot is unravelled (obv that's bad because it's a film and they're supposed to end.), twin peaks did because it had strongly established other elements but this establishing was done through the investigation of laura palmers murder just like v. mars non-detective elements are being established through the investigation to a large/some extent.
Okay a lot of that is rub but i think the way the detective elements are used and blah and lilly kane = laura palmer means that they're pretty similar.
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link
And it was much more about the town than the one dead girl -- she provided a focus for the first slightly-less-than-half of the show, but the bulk of even that half dealt with other things. Her murder was the equivalent of the hospital in General Hospital; the investigation was a setting as much as it was a plot element, like Mulder's ongoing quest in The X-Files. (There are bigger differences than this, but they boil down to "Twin Peaks is a take on the traditional night-time soap opera, Veronica Mars isn't," with the plot structures, the lack of episodic closure, the roaming focus on different characters, etc.)
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Or, like buffy (prolly a ton of other things), the soap opera elements and character development are brought out through solving problems in her career. That does make it even more of a detective show though which twin peaks isn't but finding the actual murderer of lilly has about as much priority as finding laura's and the bulk of the show is about other things.
― qbot (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 10:13 (nineteen years ago) link
i read a review on imdb that said it was 1/3 buffy, 1/3 twin peaks and 1/3 'the outsiders'. i don't know what the outsiders is unless it's the slicks vs greasers book i read as a kid.
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 10:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― johnson (johnson), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 11:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link
On the bright side, House is not hurting for ratings at ALL and is a 100% lock for a second season. And you should all watch it too. If you have Tivos or VCRs and can watch Veronica Mars first, that is.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 18 February 2005 05:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Go on. You know you want to watch it.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 07:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link