Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

*less likely. sorry

Irrespective of whether Heather Stewart is right, it’s bold to make the argument that banging on about sculptures and Fawlty Towers is a culture war trap set by Johnson from the position of Political Editor of a newspaper that has done almost nothing else over the last week.

That Zoe Williams piece from last week is as critical as it will get. Most will be happy that it isn't Corbyn and for the next few years they can pretend this is enough.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/20/the-far-left-origins-of-no-10s-desperate-attack-on-all-things-woke-?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet

Nick Cohen - The far-left origins of No 10's desperate attack on all things 'woke'

Lol ok a+ trolling

"The presence of the ex-revolutionaries in a rightwing debate shows the distance from asinine far leftism to paranoid conservatism is nowhere near as great as the innocent imagine." if you want an authority on asinine

Telling how this thread is routinely bumped on Sundays.

guardian giving known sex pests a platform again is it

they've also given four stars to debut album by voice-of-tory-heartlands indie wankers Sports Team if you want another reason to hate them.

Indie is the voice of Tory heartlands tbf

apart from Belle & Sebastian, the slave trading founders of ILX!

I always thought of indie as more lib dem but I’m out of date, what’s the difference anyway

apparently now the LibDems are plotting to outflank Starmzy in that sweet indie spot just slightly to the left of the centre right.

I can only think of that wanker from Coldplay and that wanker Dom Joly as prominent LibDem supporters from the entertainment industry, but I'm sure there are more.

Brian Eno. I knew there was one I'd forgotten.

Billy Bragg if he counts as entertainment

Daniel Radcliffe, 20-year-old star of Harry Potter and 12th wealthiest young person in the UK, is clearly not put off by the party's plan to hit the super-rich with a "mansion tax".

He said: "If all the people who liked the Lib Dems voted for them you could change politics overnight and we could have a proper three-party system."

lol, that 2010 Claggmania was an even worse drug than m-cat

Come on Potter most of the people who vote for them don't like them

tbf He was 20 years old there and dopey as fuck, Jo Swinson howerver....

all these ppl are indie imo, incl/esp joly & radcliffe

On the white, posh and totally smug and myopic metric.. Indie to the core!

Opener Lander sets the tone, Rob Knaggs’s ever-shifting guitar lines supporting frontman Alex Rice’s Sprechgesang stream-of-consciousness (“I wanna be a lawyer/ Or someone who hunts foxes”).

the Hampshire blues

Know this will go down badly here, but surely Bragg & Eno were saying nice things about libdems only when it was nice anti-war alcoholic uncle Charles Kennedy against war criminal Tonty fucking Blair, and both were supporting Corbyn in the election last year.

Bragg has been an unmitigable wanker since birth whether he supported Corbyn or not. Yeah Eno did turn out for Corbyn in '19 tbf, but who really cares about celebs and how politics is like a no-stakes trends game to them. Well me, because I've just commented on it on this thread tbf! Shit!

Anyone who supports the Lib Dems for even a nanosecond is tainted for all eternity.

Voting Tory is preferable tbh.

I have much more respect for just about every Tory voting cunt in the UK than I have for Billy Bragg, who fronted Red Wedge for Kinnock Sr. Give me Duran Duran any day over that waste of skin!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/21/if-i-must-wear-a-face-mask-ill-do-so-with-a-look-of-ironic-detachment

What on earth is this column about

it's about 350 words

good hustle if you can maintain it!

Tried to find out who the Guardian’s go to pizza guy was and saw there’s also a Jonathan Twentyman (any relation?) in Leigh who owns a property development firm and is followed on here by Helen Pidd. Probably just a coincidence. https://t.co/ikh7G8cJ2D

— Jonathan (@readonlymike) July 9, 2020

Related:

A quick look suggests the most commonly read paper of those who didn't vote Labour in 2019 (having done so in 2017) is The Guardian (~10%) then The Daily Mail (~8%) and The Sun (~7). Just over half read no paper at all. But among those who 'stuck' with Labour 19% were Guardian.

— Paula Surridge (@p_surridge) June 19, 2020

Helen Pidd has worked in Manchester forever but my first experience of her was when she was a contributor wrangler sorting out freelance bank details etc - when that job was advertised in the Graun they’d always say ‘this is NOT a route into journalism’ LOL

Tried to find out who the Guardian’s go to pizza guy was and saw there’s also a Jonathan Twentyman (any relation?) in Leigh who owns a property development firm and is followed on here by Helen Pidd. Probably just a coincidence. https://t.co/ikh7G8cJ2D

— Jonathan (@readonlymike) July 9, 2020

I just ate an excellent pizza in Leigh and you should too. Twentymans, the place is called: https://t.co/bwfFkhMNOY

— Helen Pidd (@helenpidd) March 4, 2020

I literally posted the first tweet already!

Christ, that final tweet from Pidd is shameful.

There was definitely a point where there were more Labour voters reading the Mail than the Guardian, there might still be for all I know.

Hitchens is unwell today's stand in columnist is Kieran Shitstarm

The Manchester Guardian was founded in the wake of the Pizzaloo Massacre to promote the reforming liberal interests.. Blah blah

The Griftian

What’s wrong with you?? https://t.co/0lrSXQzM03

— Aniqah (@AniqahC) July 9, 2020

I would pretend I couldn't speak English if Helen Pidd tried to talk to me tbf

lol

Wonder how she knew they were voting Labour if they couldn't speak English.

they made the universal sign language of the Starmzy which obv is the jerk off motion followed by a thumbs up

For those alleged Labour supporters who have been trying to get ex-Labour voters in this story cancelled, shame on you. Why not try to understand why Leigh went Tory and what it will take to win these folk back instead of piling on? https://t.co/Md7vsqUuQv

— Helen Pidd (@helenpidd) July 9, 2020

Trying to get a story cancelled is it?

helen piss

working class artisan pizzeria owner

Ah look who it is pic.twitter.com/5ANqipa0vX

— Ismail (@IML91) July 9, 2020

according to the article what it will take to win ex-Labour voters back:

- Leigh be more than 97% white
- lack of imagination

You can be working class and run a restaurant - or indeed be a property developer. Ask Andrew Twentyman how much money he makes from the Pizzeria: minimum wage. The Guardian interviews UC claimants all the time - I'm sure I will do so in Leigh before long too.

— Helen Pidd (@helenpidd) July 9, 2020