Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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i've been hearing the expression "it is always darkest before the dawn" all my life and it wasn't till about a week ago that i thought about it for more than a second and realized that it is not, in fact, true from a scientific pov

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 10:38 (six years ago)

Washington DC is not a state. For some reason I always thought it was one.

― the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Tuesday, June 9, 2020 11:35 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think this tied in with teh deployment of troops there. If it had been a state t would have had to ok deployment with the state leadership.
I've heard a lot of people wanting to try to get DC State status because its residents don't have the same representation without it.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 10:41 (six years ago)

Correct. Unlike the 50 states that each get two senators, DC, not being a state, gets no representation in the Senate.

The baseball team in DC until 1971 was called the Senators. When the Montreal Expos moved to DC after decades of no baseball in the city, many wanted to revive the traditional Senators name, but others including DC's mayor objected to a city with no senators being called the Senators, so they became the Nationals.

xp Yeah it actually makes me bitter that I live in a borough of NYC that has 5x the population of Wyoming yet my ENTIRE STATE - let alone my city, let alone my borough - has the same number of senators as fucking Wyoming

― Josefa, Sunday, June 7, 2020 6:12 PM (two days ago) bookmark flaglink

This is one of the many reasons right-wing Republicans stay in power in the U.S. - most of the rural states with low populations are more conservative whereas high-population coastal states like New York and California are more liberal, but nonetheless Wyoming and Montana get as much Senate representation as California and New York.

Lee626, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 11:43 (six years ago)

D.C. also has no voting representation in the House. meanwhile its electoral-college representation is capped at the same number of electors as the least populous state, although i don't think that actually changes anything at current population levels.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 13:58 (six years ago)

DC is perpetually fucked, although arguably less so than Puerto Rico

mh, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 14:30 (six years ago)

i mean, i've come to terms with it by this point tbh

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 14:39 (six years ago)

Feel like Puerto Rico has a better chance of being admitted as a state before DC.

Some people just can't get their head around a city being a state, no matter how much sense it makes. "Well why can't they just make it part of Maryland?" etc.

pplains, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 15:42 (six years ago)

That is one of the more actionable/feasible suggestions tho

(That is, retaining the "monumental core" as a voteless Federal district, while retroceding the places where people actually, y'know, LIVE to a state that has representation.)

FWIW the Virginia portions of the District already did precisely that. In 1847. So there is precedent.

This has been an active issue my whole life, I have heard almost every argument and almost every proposed remedy and it is still a perpetual stalemate. I suspect it will be so when I die.

Tom Paine in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 15:53 (six years ago)

One of DC's most popular license plate mottos is "taxation without representation."

Today I learned that Northwestern University got its name because at the time of its founding in 1851, Chicago was the biggest city in the then northwestern, only modestly expanded United States. I mean, duh, but I never thought about it before.

I also recently learned that the phrase "happy as a clam" is truncated from "happy as a clam at high tide;" they're happy because they're harder to catch.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 16:05 (six years ago)

I assumed "happy as a clam" was because they appear to be smiling widely

Josefa, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 16:19 (six years ago)

Today I learned that Northwestern University got its name because at the time of its founding in 1851, Chicago was the biggest city in the then northwestern, only modestly expanded United States. I mean, duh, but I never thought about it before.

For something even crazier, look up why Case Western Reserve is in northeast Ohio.

pplains, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:01 (six years ago)

or why pittsburgh was the 'gateway to the west' before st. louis

mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:11 (six years ago)

how about why north parade, a street in oxford (uk) is south of south parade.

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 18:56 (six years ago)

Something to do with the Earth's shifting magnetic field?

Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 18:57 (six years ago)

has it to do with lord north

mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 18:58 (six years ago)

And Joe South.

Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 19:00 (six years ago)

don't it make you wanna go home.... counties

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 19:17 (six years ago)

turns out i was shockingly old when i learned it's another fake etymology.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Parade#Origin_of_the_name

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 19:22 (six years ago)

while we're learning late about American geography this week I discovered that

The Midwestern United States, also referred to as the American Midwest, the Heartland, Middle West, or simply the Midwest

is the north to north east and not in the midwest

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 00:18 (six years ago)

well it's definitely not the northeast

all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 00:27 (six years ago)

it‘a midway to the west from the east coast, where “the west” kind of changed over time

mh, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 01:10 (six years ago)

The Midwest:
https://i.imgur.com/KAzZYWD.jpg

The Mideast:
https://i.imgur.com/BVKIvLR.jpg

South Central La:
https://i.imgur.com/O6HekCa.jpg

pplains, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 02:59 (six years ago)

wait till you hear about upper and lower canada

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 03:02 (six years ago)

Western Canada also begins slightly east of the country's latitudinal centre

Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 03:36 (six years ago)

https://www.ontariocourts.ca/ocj/files/pic/regionsofthecourt.jpg

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 04:04 (six years ago)

v. tricky

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 04:06 (six years ago)

Image didn't post but yeah, Northern Ontario (Northeast + Northwest) amounts to 88% of the province's land area; Western Ontario is in the eastern third of the province (south of the entire Northeast and further east than some of the Northeast).xp

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 04:07 (six years ago)

MY parents met at the University of Western Ontario and my dad drove me and my elder brother up there for its centenary back around 1980. Its in London which seems slightly to the NorthWest of New York State or at least Niagara Falls which we drove through and stopped at.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 10:05 (six years ago)

About 2h straight west of Niagara Falls, NY, yeah; v slightly south if anything; whereas the actual geographically western border of the province borders Minnesota.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 10:41 (six years ago)

About the middle of the "West" region in that map.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 10:43 (six years ago)

Canada regions map reminds me that there are places where you can cross the border from Finland into Norway from the west.

pplains, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 12:32 (six years ago)

The Mississippi River normally forms the border between Illinois and Missouri, but the river has an annoying habit of moving around, so there are little bits of Illinois stranded on the western bank, and can only be reached from Missouri.

Tom Paine in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 13:10 (six years ago)

Think that's weird, head up to Carter Lake, Iowa – only place in the state where you can walk to Nebraska and not get your feet wet.

pplains, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 13:13 (six years ago)

Norwegian Wood ends in arson.

Stevolende, Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:35 (six years ago)

That ain't the only thing that ends with arson!

https://i.imgur.com/Yg4chFY.gif

pplains, Thursday, 11 June 2020 17:56 (six years ago)

Italy is smaller than Arizona.

― i am not throwing away my snot (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, June 7, 2020 2:56 PM

https://i.imgur.com/8JcfCkD.png

Well, you'd still have to ball it up first.

(Fun little map.)

pplains, Friday, 12 June 2020 00:18 (six years ago)

according to some quick searching, arizona is 3k square miles smaller than italy

mh, Friday, 12 June 2020 00:24 (six years ago)

Italy does look bigger.

Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Friday, 12 June 2020 00:25 (six years ago)

Maybe not common knowledge, but I was surprised to learn recently that Charles Rolls, co-founder of Rolls-Royce, in 1910 bought an airplane designed by the Wright brothers. And that he crashed in it and died. And that he was the first Briton ever to die in a plane crash.

Josefa, Friday, 12 June 2020 02:17 (six years ago)

I think I just learned that Holly Golightly was a hooker?

Boring, Maryland, Friday, 12 June 2020 02:36 (six years ago)

... are you confusing the book character with the singer?

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Friday, 12 June 2020 02:58 (six years ago)

I've got something to tell you about Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 12 June 2020 02:59 (six years ago)

she was really Bruce Willis the whole time?

Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 June 2020 04:31 (six years ago)

According to Wikipedia, Capote said Holly Golightly was "not a prostitute but an American geisha".

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 12 June 2020 04:36 (six years ago)

Die Hard with a Shopping Montage

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 12 June 2020 07:00 (six years ago)

the guy who created minecraft turned out to be a massive fuckhead

form of mouth device (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 12 June 2020 11:42 (six years ago)

More like escort? At least, in the movie she accepts money for her company but finds a way to escape (e.g., through a window) before things get physical - I probably read the book 30 years ago and have quite forgotten it.

Tom Paine in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 June 2020 12:57 (six years ago)

The remake with Bruce Willis changes the main character to a guy named Hoopy Goloopy.

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 12 June 2020 16:53 (six years ago)

I've never seen the movie, actually. I just assumed she was some rich single young woman navigating love and dating in the crazy big city!

Boring, Maryland, Friday, 12 June 2020 19:31 (six years ago)


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