US Politics, June 2020 — You have to dominate.

remember how Obama made the W gang pay

… by becoming George's friend

Isn't this Obamagate week? It can be done!

imo, Trump would have to do some truly heinous new shit between now and January to be indicted, let alone tried and convicted on leaving office. His present level of criminality wouldn't suffice, unless there were a protest movement demanding his head, equal to or stronger than the present protests.

The entire political class will find it much more pleasant to "look forward not backward" and let Trump live out his life in freedom, should he lose the election.

There's plenty of precedent for presidents pardoning their criminal cronies on the way out the door, but other than Ford -> Nixon, presidential criminality has never even really been an issue. But Trump is an actual criminal, not just a political adversary — if he was a private businessman, he'd be in the dock for about 75% of the moneymaking schemes he's engaged in over the last three years. And he has not been absorbed into the "political class" — they all hate him, even the ones who spend all day licking his taint because it's in their interest to do so. So I think if SDNY decides to continue going after him, for shit he did before he was president, the "political class" is likely to let them. There's also a very strong chance that once he's a private citizen, he'll be sued into penury by people who were materially harmed by his policies or statements. All someone has to do is make a case that one of his tweets caused their store to be burned down, or caused them to be attacked on the street, and that's it.

imo, Trump would have to do some truly heinous new shit between now and January to be indicted

if we believe in him enough, he can get it done

speaking of Mitt Romney taking the streets before Obama is kind of a surprise

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― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, June 8, 2020 12:42 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Thank you to House democrats for bringing me lots of laughter today

The entire political class will find it much more pleasant to "look forward not backward" and let Trump live out his life in freedom, should he lose the election.

There's plenty of precedent for presidents pardoning their criminal cronies on the way out the door, but other than Ford -> Nixon, presidential criminality has never even really been an issue. But Trump is an actual criminal, not just a political adversary — if he was a private businessman, he'd be in the dock for about 75% of the moneymaking schemes he's engaged in over the last three years. And he has not been absorbed into the "political class" — they all hate him, even the ones who spend all day licking his taint because it's in their interest to do so. So I think if SDNY decides to continue going after him, for shit he did before he was president, the "political class" is likely to let them. There's also a very strong chance that once he's a private citizen, he'll be sued into penury by people who were materially harmed by his policies or statements. All someone has to do is make a case that one of his tweets caused their store to be burned down, or caused them to be attacked on the street, and that's it.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, June 8, 2020 4:46 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I very much want to see this administration to pay for every single crime.

Sorry about that 2018 article yesterday

All someone has to do is make a case that one of his tweets caused their store to be burned down, or caused them to be attacked on the street, and that's it.

Making that case would be like climbing Mt. Everest w/o oxygen, while facing backwards. I usually like your level headed analyses, unperson, but this one has too big a pile of unlikely assumptions. By virtue of being president, Trump is now of "the political class" for all time and he can't be expelled, especially now after the impeachment failed.

So I think if SDNY decides to continue going after him, for shit he did before he was president, the "political class" is likely to let them.

I guess yeah. But it's like OJ being found liable in civil court. Who's even aware of that? It will probably happen, and Trump's long record of fraud, tax evasion, etc. will cost Trump money, but the fantasy of seeing him frogmarched into prison for the crimes he committed against the country is just that, a fantasy.

i like to think i am a pretty level-headed/cynical person on trump, but "trump will be under criminal indictment by federal prosecutors when he dies" is something i truly believe.

xxp the impeachment didn’t fail!

No way will Biden pardon him though. He just has to let New York State crucify Trump, and they'll be happy to. It's no skin off Biden's ass if the states want to go after him, and many of them will.

are you kidding, all you'll have to do is contaminate the Big Mac supply and he'll spend the rest of his life living in a sewer, eating children

It will probably happen, and Trump's long record of fraud, tax evasion, etc. will cost Trump money, but the fantasy of seeing him frogmarched into prison for the crimes he committed against the country is just that, a fantasy.

Yeah, but the "will cost Trump money" part is huge, because once he leaves office, he's not gonna have much money — who's gonna want to book a room at his disgusting DC hotel if it's not gonna count as a bribe? How many members is Mar-A-Lago gonna lose in the months after the election, do you think? And how many of his foreign cronies are gonna keep pouring money into him once the ROI dries up? People that propped him up for years are gonna call in their markers, and he'll be bankrupt before you can blink.

No way will Biden pardon him though.

Biden's already said he won't pardon Trump.

Biden's going to exile him to Malarkey Island.

there must be a lot of powerful people who are less powerful than a sitting president who have dirt on him and are waiting for him to leave office

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the boomer remover returns

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/08/trump-rally-coronavirus-307496

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We're all screwed anyway now

Trump’s going to have the biggest book deal in history, speaking engagements for his hooting zoo animal base, probably a huge contract with Fox News to do a daily minute. Money isn’t going to be a problem.

Or he may be the first US president to be torn apart by an angry mob.

Dooooo ittttt...

Trump to restart MAGA rallies despite coronavirus

Donald Trump is planning to restart rallies in the next two weeks in a major turning point for the president since the coronavirus shut down traditional campaigning.

Trump’s advisers are still determining where the rallies will take place and what safety measures will be implemented, depending on the type of venue chosen. Campaign manager Brad Parscale is expected to present Trump with possibilities within the next few days.

...

The move comes at a precarious moment for Trump. National and swing state polls show him taking a major hit amid his handling of the pandemic and the social unrest that followed the killing of a African American man at the hands of Minnesota police. He is trailing Joe Biden substantially in many polls.

The president’s team views the rallies as a way of rejuvenating his base and displaying the enthusiasm behind his reelection bid. They are eager to create a contrast with Biden, who has largely remained secluded in his Delaware home and hasn’t held a major campaign event since spring.

While Trump is likely to face blowback for resuming in-person events while the coronavirus pandemic is still ravaging the country, his advisers contend that the recent massive protests in metropolitan areas will make it harder for liberals to criticize him.

The only justice Trump's likely to face is the street variety, and I'm pretty okay with that eventuality.

Those rallies are going to kill the working class people who have to service them and the Applebee’s staff where the CHUDS go for an afterparty.

Just as an actuarial thing, trump (or biden) rallies are going to kill the old people who attend political rallies.

I wish it were that simple.

-bob marley

would that it twere

would that it twere?

Those rallies are going to kill all kinds of people. This is a shit situation.

Fox and OANN will cover those rallies, but I'd love to see every other news outlet refuse due to the exposure risk.

i'd like to cover those rallies in cement

CNN’s gonna cover them and Trump’s gonna riff for ten minutes about how they’re all pussies for wearing masks

and then a gauze wipe covered in fluids from an Ebola victim will land wetly on his cheek

lmao what did you think was gonna happen

Reform the police or defund the police? I pick reform.

What do you pick?

— Scott Walker (@ScottWalker) June 8, 2020

The local Sinclair news ran a Defund yah or nah? poll today that was 64% yah when I saw it

that the only two options for scott fucking walker are reform or defund is itself progress

i'd agree, but "reform" is one of those malleable terms that can be bent into absurd shapes by people like walker.

in his eyes it means 2 hours of virtual compliance training

that washington post video summarizing the assault on protesters outside the white house to make way for trump's photo-op with jesus is really powerful. lots of footage i haven't seen, very disturbing. be warned if police acting like cold-blooded assholes is too much:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/a-video-timeline-of-the-crackdown-on-protesters-before-trumps-photo-op/2020/06/08/0d107cb4-bf2b-4ba4-906a-d59800a32146_video.html

Has anything been said anywhere about where Martin Gugino got the police helmet he was returning? Was it just something he found on the street. I tried googling it but haven't found anything so may be using wrong search terms.
Just seems even more disgusting that his reward for an act of goodwill was the violence he received. Bad enough if he was jus a passerby who greeted officers.

I'm not the audience for them, but those Lincoln Project ads have pretty much all been really sharp. I liked this one, which pokes him about inauguration crowd size vs protest crowd size

📺 @realDonaldTrump, the American people are speaking directly to you with a simple message: it’s time to start packing your bags. pic.twitter.com/6MMrA2c8L4

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) June 9, 2020

Couple of really good lines. "Donald Trump has finally gotten the crowds he wanted" and "Imagine how big the crowds will be when he's gone." The second one in particular is a keeper.

I don’t see how Trump rallies will be more likely to spread illness than the other mass gatherings from the past few weeks? (Besides psychic illness)

They're typically held inside, for one.

Also, perhaps his fans are less likely to wear masks?

Plus they pick their noses.