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White House is considering a Trump speech to the nation on race and unity - CNNPolitics https://t.co/wfXkf5nOVl

— Brooke Binkowski (@brooklynmarie) June 8, 2020

This will absolutely work, because the American people have the memories of goldfish and watching Donald Trump mutter words off a teleprompter in a dazed monotone, like he's never seen these words before in any combination, will totally cancel out the previous two weeks of protests, and the three and a half years of his presidency before that, too. And then two days later, when he's retweeting a video of some guy screaming racial slurs at a black woman walking down the street with her five-year-old daughter, political journalists will make serious faces and talk about how he's "appealing to his base."

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 8 June 2020 02:39 (six years ago)

Two *days* later?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2020 02:43 (six years ago)

what, is it gonna be Trump singing "Different Drum"

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 June 2020 02:48 (six years ago)

wasn't that exactly what he did after Charlottesville

I can't imagine what the audience for that is. both sides know he doesn't mean it. oh wait, I forgot Chuck Todd

frogbs, Monday, 8 June 2020 02:53 (six years ago)

he already retweeted tweets by Candace Owens and Glenn Beck that bagged on George Floyd, have to imagine this message of "unity" might actually...not be!

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 June 2020 02:55 (six years ago)

A light in the darkness: the kind of galaxy-brained Democrat leadership thinking that will retake the Presidency in 2024 and the House in 2026.

A lot has been happening this week, to say the least. And we’re getting ready for a very big moment tomorrow as Phase One of the Re-Start begins. So I want to make life a little easier for all of us: Alternate Side Parking is cancelled tomorrow Mon June 8 thru Sun June 21.

— Mayor Bill de Blasio (@NYCMayor) June 7, 2020

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Monday, 8 June 2020 05:11 (six years ago)

The fence outside the White House has been converted to a crowd-sourced memorial wall — almost like an art gallery — to black men and women who lost their lives at the hands of police.

Hundreds are strolling, looking, adding names and paintings and posters. pic.twitter.com/mXlZpfMAeX

— Hannah Natanson (@hannah_natanson) June 7, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 June 2020 13:26 (six years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/CFUs7ce.jpg

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 June 2020 13:33 (six years ago)

*squints* there he is on top tweeting "made it dad! top of the world!"

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Monday, 8 June 2020 13:46 (six years ago)

lol the White House put up its Halloween decorations early.

Speaking of which, do you think Trump will make trick or treating this year a stick it to the libs thing?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2020 13:54 (six years ago)

Thank, you mr mayor, for the healing

Boring, Maryland, Monday, 8 June 2020 13:59 (six years ago)

new wes anderson look dark

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 8 June 2020 13:59 (six years ago)

That picture's not real, is it?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2020 14:09 (six years ago)

It's a... drawing.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 June 2020 14:11 (six years ago)

lol. I'm still wearing my old dirty glasses. I thought it was just all filtered out to the point of surreal.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2020 14:12 (six years ago)

I have seen those temporary observation-post thingies at lots of demonstrations and other large DC events; they always remind me of

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/f/ff/ATST-SWBdice.png

Taylor Dayne in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 8 June 2020 14:13 (six years ago)

Grain of salt, etc:

Overall 38% approve of the way Trump is handling the presidency, while 57% disapprove. That's his worst approval rating since January 2019, and roughly on par with approval ratings for Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush at this point in their reelection years. Both went on to lose the presidency after one term.

In the race for the White House, among registered voters, Trump stands 14 points behind Biden, who officially secured enough delegates to win the Democratic nomination in CNN's delegate estimate on Saturday. The 41% who say they back the President is the lowest in CNN's tracking on this question back to April 2019, and Biden's 55% support is his highest mark yet.

The result comes amid a week in which Trump's response to protests outside the White House led to condemnation from some fellow Republicans and a rebuke from former Defense Secretary James Mattis, who served under the President.

The poll finds the public broadly disapproves of Trump's handling of race relations (63% disapprove), and 65% say the President's response to recent protests has been more harmful than helpful.

A broad majority of Americans say the peaceful protests happening all across the country after police violence against African Americans are justified (84% say so), and roughly a quarter (27%) say violent protests in response to police harming or killing African Americans are justified. Both figures are higher than they were when similar protests rose in the fall of 2016. Then, 67% saw peaceful protests as justified while 14% felt violent protests were.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 June 2020 14:22 (six years ago)

That'll get remedied when he gives his unifying speech on race.

Who can trust polls, but the most impressive one I saw recently was the NPR/etc poll that showed how far his standing had fallen with white college educated women. The "before" was iirc 2016 exit polls, the "after" was now, and there was something like a 25 point shift in both directions. That's telling, because clearly many people voted for him as a hail mary, or for other vague reasons. But polls taken now have taken the last three horrible years into account, and if they're that far down there's no reason for them to go back up again, as there is no longer even a "wait and see" excuse. At this point if someone says they're not supporting him, or not voting for him, there's no reason to believe that decision is not final.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2020 14:35 (six years ago)

Vice President Biden leads President Trump among white college-educated women 67% (!) to 28% (!) in new NPR/PBS/Marist poll out today.

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) June 6, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2020 14:35 (six years ago)

2016 exit polls were 51% Clinton, 44% Trump

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) June 6, 2020

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2020 14:36 (six years ago)

didn't they break for Dems in 2018?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 June 2020 14:44 (six years ago)

I think so, and accounted for part of the so-called blue wave. I don't know the numbers, but if their support for Trump is still down 15% and their support for Biden that high, that means their Dem enthusiasm (or Trump antipathy) is holding steady, which makes sense, because again, why would they be on the fence about anything at this point?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2020 14:49 (six years ago)

The political remains undefeated:

dkkdkskkekejejdh pic.twitter.com/H2TpcQ3yo4

— Till Odinson (@thetillshow) June 8, 2020

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 8 June 2020 15:04 (six years ago)

That's telling, because clearly many people voted for him as a hail mary, or for other vague reasons.

this was true for a lot of the people I knew who voted Trump. many of them were the sort of people who don't watch any news, think all politicians are corrupt and say dumb shit like "it's not like the president gets to do much anyway". I cannot imagine the last 4 years have convinced them to pull the lever for him again.

obv I'm not gonna get my hopes up but I feel like even if you're on the side of "people should just respect the police" I think you can recognize that a lot of this chaos and violence is a direct result of our leadership

frogbs, Monday, 8 June 2020 15:06 (six years ago)

The two biggest surprises, I must admit, of the last two months have been the degree to which the public hasn't given much credit to Trump's "handling" of the pandemic and to what extent those polled support the protests.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 June 2020 15:09 (six years ago)

Also the very apparent fact that the president has zero moral leadership. Even his own supporters concede that. It’s not like a president has to be a moral philosopher or anything, but people do expect them to not be the worst piece of shit they have ever imagined

Karl Malone, Monday, 8 June 2020 15:10 (six years ago)

rumors that Trump is going to give a 'unifying' speech this week,I'm sure that will go one of two ways: stiff, uncomfortable teleprompter reading in a low tone immediately followed by incendiary and racist tweets, or, he'll have Stephen Miller write the speech and unifying it will not be.

akm, Monday, 8 June 2020 15:21 (six years ago)

That NPR poll is consistent with a recent Pew Research survey that found that college-educated women now lean Democratic by a 2-to-1 margin.

https://www.people-press.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2020/06/PP_2020.06.02_party-id_1-08.png

jaymc, Monday, 8 June 2020 15:21 (six years ago)

You people need to stop worrying about trump giving a good speech that has long term effects on people’s attitudes. It has never happened.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 8 June 2020 15:36 (six years ago)

It will definitely happen this time. Trump on race? It's practically a sure thing. Right in his wheelhouse, if you will.

I think if someone did just hail mary a vote to Trump, then there's no reason to believe they wouldn't at least be similarly inclined to hail mary a vote to Biden this time. And if Biden gives them pause but Trump *didn't* then they are never going to vote Biden, anyway.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2020 15:38 (six years ago)

i posted this in another thread, but check out mitch mcconnell's competitor for his senate seat this fall:

I literally almost jumped out of my seat when I watched this. It physically made me react. This is leadership. @Booker4KY #BookerBeatsMitch pic.twitter.com/3dK74xQj6l

— Dave 🌹 (@nodank_) June 7, 2020

fuck yeah. send this guy money, and fuck mitch mcconnell for life

Karl Malone, Monday, 8 June 2020 15:42 (six years ago)

I'm sure you all are posting good stuff, but unfortunately I can no longer process visual information after DJP's post

dip to dup (rob), Monday, 8 June 2020 15:43 (six years ago)

You people need to stop worrying about trump giving a good speech that has long term effects on people’s attitudes. It has never happened.

exactly. closest I can think of was his first SOTU which the media saw as a genuine "turning point" but, like everything else, he trampled over it in a matter of days. iirc he did give a 'unifying' speech after Charlottesville and nobody bought it. whatever 'good' things he says he'll immediately walk back within a few hours

frogbs, Monday, 8 June 2020 15:48 (six years ago)

Because it's not a unifying speech if you're trying to unify people with, like, white supremacists.

So does Booker or McGrath have a chance against McConnell?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2020 15:54 (six years ago)

This speech is being trailed by wishful thinkers in his administration to wishful thinkers in the centrist media.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 8 June 2020 15:56 (six years ago)

I'm hoping he leaves in plenty of ad lib time so the people can get the full breadth of his thoughts.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 8 June 2020 16:26 (six years ago)

The United States Space Force was only announced two years ago and has yet to engage in any military operations, but the latest branch of the U.S. armed forces already stands to lose its first battle -- to Netflix's Space Force. The streaming service premiered its new sci-fi/comedy series Space Force on May 29. The show's name has no relation to the newest organization of the U.S. military, which unveiled its official flag only two weeks earlier. Because of the common moniker, though, the United States Space Force's first battle might be a trademark war -- fought in court, rather than in space. Attorneys for the U.S. military have done little to secure the Space Force name as a registered trademark. Netflix, however, has been far more aggressive, and has already locked down the rights to the name in several countries.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2020 16:27 (six years ago)

xp I only trust the Onion to accurately predict this speech: https://www.theonion.com/this-face-will-be-the-last-thing-you-see-before-you-di-1843888214

dip to dup (rob), Monday, 8 June 2020 16:27 (six years ago)

rob:

Please tell me this was the end pose of their step routine https://t.co/hgoKtYmeIC

— DJP (@djperry1973) June 8, 2020

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 8 June 2020 17:42 (six years ago)

haha excellent

dip to dup (rob), Monday, 8 June 2020 19:14 (six years ago)

So does Booker or McGrath have a chance against McConnell?

isn't he the most unpopular Senator in the country

frogbs, Monday, 8 June 2020 19:23 (six years ago)

Loved in Moscow tho.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 June 2020 19:25 (six years ago)

this isolation goes to 11

Trump has started to blame Kushner for campaign meltdown, per source. Also, in private, Mattis told people Trump is a “proto neo-fascist.” My latest:https://t.co/vhnFyAMaCE

— Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman) June 8, 2020

mookieproof, Monday, 8 June 2020 19:46 (six years ago)

proto neo cryptographist!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 June 2020 19:47 (six years ago)

preening bozo coprophagist

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 8 June 2020 19:52 (six years ago)

Today in "would be hilarious if it weren't a fucking tragedy":

I have retained highly respected pollster, McLaughlin & Associates, to analyze todays CNN Poll (and others), which I felt were FAKE based on the incredible enthusiasm we are receiving. Read analysis for yourself. This is the same thing they and others did when we defeated...

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 8, 2020

...Crooked Hillary Clinton in 2016. They are called SUPPRESSION POLLS, and are put out to dampen enthusiasm. Despite 3 ½ years of phony Witch Hunts, we are winning, and will close it out on November 3rd! pic.twitter.com/4IhuLUZjsv

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 8, 2020

Money quote from the letter:

"In their questionnaire between asking about your job approval and the ballot, they had questions including issues like race relations, not job creation, which could have biased the poll further."

But why would that be a problem? Trump is a genius with race relations - best president ever for the blacks! Just ask him, he'll tell you...

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 8 June 2020 19:57 (six years ago)

https://www.vox.com/2020/6/8/21284096/presidential-election-polls-biden-lead

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 June 2020 19:58 (six years ago)

I am a huge fan of Trump bitching about the 'fake' polls. Hopefully it convinces the base that he's doing so well that most of them can just relax at home on election day and watch his tremendous win unfold.

Fun-Loving and Furry-Curious! (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 June 2020 20:10 (six years ago)

I heard Trump was doing so well that he probably doesn't even need to campaign or advertise.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 June 2020 20:21 (six years ago)


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