US Politics, June 2020 — You have to dominate.

"What's our message?"
"..."

remember when Bill Kristol had an op-ed column

We should workshop some new hopeful slogans for them

“Hopefully Trump will lose the election, and then fall down a well!”

Put that on a hat.

i kinda want joe b to start saying he wants to make american great again by beating donald trump. and then saying it again. and then he starts wearing the red hat.

Make America Grape Again

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I'm hearing the asshole is increasingly isolated

"Just one asshole in a room... getting back to basics."

xp I remember being assigned poster-making as a second grader and making a Moby Grape poster

President Trump's top political advisers, in a private meeting last week, said their boss needs to add more hopeful, optimistic and unifying messages

wait, you mean "best economy ever for people of color" isn't moving the needle for people of color?

Maybe the looting/shooting message could be softened a bit, like, "steal things and you'll feel stings"?

said a senior adviser to Trump

Being a senior adviser to Trump is like being an Admiral of the Bohemian Navy.

said the senior adviser to Donald Trump
do you smell what I smell?

How about
"We haven't killed you... yet."

White House is considering a Trump speech to the nation on race and unity - CNNPolitics https://t.co/wfXkf5nOVl

— Brooke Binkowski (@brooklynmarie) June 8, 2020

This will absolutely work, because the American people have the memories of goldfish and watching Donald Trump mutter words off a teleprompter in a dazed monotone, like he's never seen these words before in any combination, will totally cancel out the previous two weeks of protests, and the three and a half years of his presidency before that, too. And then two days later, when he's retweeting a video of some guy screaming racial slurs at a black woman walking down the street with her five-year-old daughter, political journalists will make serious faces and talk about how he's "appealing to his base."

Two *days* later?

what, is it gonna be Trump singing "Different Drum"

wasn't that exactly what he did after Charlottesville

I can't imagine what the audience for that is. both sides know he doesn't mean it. oh wait, I forgot Chuck Todd

he already retweeted tweets by Candace Owens and Glenn Beck that bagged on George Floyd, have to imagine this message of "unity" might actually...not be!

A light in the darkness: the kind of galaxy-brained Democrat leadership thinking that will retake the Presidency in 2024 and the House in 2026.

A lot has been happening this week, to say the least. And we’re getting ready for a very big moment tomorrow as Phase One of the Re-Start begins. So I want to make life a little easier for all of us: Alternate Side Parking is cancelled tomorrow Mon June 8 thru Sun June 21.

— Mayor Bill de Blasio (@NYCMayor) June 7, 2020

The fence outside the White House has been converted to a crowd-sourced memorial wall — almost like an art gallery — to black men and women who lost their lives at the hands of police.

Hundreds are strolling, looking, adding names and paintings and posters. pic.twitter.com/mXlZpfMAeX

— Hannah Natanson (@hannah_natanson) June 7, 2020

https://i.imgur.com/CFUs7ce.jpg

*squints* there he is on top tweeting "made it dad! top of the world!"

lol the White House put up its Halloween decorations early.

Speaking of which, do you think Trump will make trick or treating this year a stick it to the libs thing?

Thank, you mr mayor, for the healing

new wes anderson look dark

That picture's not real, is it?

It's a... drawing.

lol. I'm still wearing my old dirty glasses. I thought it was just all filtered out to the point of surreal.

I have seen those temporary observation-post thingies at lots of demonstrations and other large DC events; they always remind me of

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/f/ff/ATST-SWBdice.png

Grain of salt, etc:

Overall 38% approve of the way Trump is handling the presidency, while 57% disapprove. That's his worst approval rating since January 2019, and roughly on par with approval ratings for Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush at this point in their reelection years. Both went on to lose the presidency after one term.

In the race for the White House, among registered voters, Trump stands 14 points behind Biden, who officially secured enough delegates to win the Democratic nomination in CNN's delegate estimate on Saturday. The 41% who say they back the President is the lowest in CNN's tracking on this question back to April 2019, and Biden's 55% support is his highest mark yet.

The result comes amid a week in which Trump's response to protests outside the White House led to condemnation from some fellow Republicans and a rebuke from former Defense Secretary James Mattis, who served under the President.

The poll finds the public broadly disapproves of Trump's handling of race relations (63% disapprove), and 65% say the President's response to recent protests has been more harmful than helpful.

A broad majority of Americans say the peaceful protests happening all across the country after police violence against African Americans are justified (84% say so), and roughly a quarter (27%) say violent protests in response to police harming or killing African Americans are justified. Both figures are higher than they were when similar protests rose in the fall of 2016. Then, 67% saw peaceful protests as justified while 14% felt violent protests were.

That'll get remedied when he gives his unifying speech on race.

Who can trust polls, but the most impressive one I saw recently was the NPR/etc poll that showed how far his standing had fallen with white college educated women. The "before" was iirc 2016 exit polls, the "after" was now, and there was something like a 25 point shift in both directions. That's telling, because clearly many people voted for him as a hail mary, or for other vague reasons. But polls taken now have taken the last three horrible years into account, and if they're that far down there's no reason for them to go back up again, as there is no longer even a "wait and see" excuse. At this point if someone says they're not supporting him, or not voting for him, there's no reason to believe that decision is not final.

Vice President Biden leads President Trump among white college-educated women 67% (!) to 28% (!) in new NPR/PBS/Marist poll out today.

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) June 6, 2020

2016 exit polls were 51% Clinton, 44% Trump

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) June 6, 2020

didn't they break for Dems in 2018?

I think so, and accounted for part of the so-called blue wave. I don't know the numbers, but if their support for Trump is still down 15% and their support for Biden that high, that means their Dem enthusiasm (or Trump antipathy) is holding steady, which makes sense, because again, why would they be on the fence about anything at this point?

The political remains undefeated:

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— Till Odinson (@thetillshow) June 8, 2020

That's telling, because clearly many people voted for him as a hail mary, or for other vague reasons.

this was true for a lot of the people I knew who voted Trump. many of them were the sort of people who don't watch any news, think all politicians are corrupt and say dumb shit like "it's not like the president gets to do much anyway". I cannot imagine the last 4 years have convinced them to pull the lever for him again.

obv I'm not gonna get my hopes up but I feel like even if you're on the side of "people should just respect the police" I think you can recognize that a lot of this chaos and violence is a direct result of our leadership

The two biggest surprises, I must admit, of the last two months have been the degree to which the public hasn't given much credit to Trump's "handling" of the pandemic and to what extent those polled support the protests.

Also the very apparent fact that the president has zero moral leadership. Even his own supporters concede that. It’s not like a president has to be a moral philosopher or anything, but people do expect them to not be the worst piece of shit they have ever imagined

rumors that Trump is going to give a 'unifying' speech this week,I'm sure that will go one of two ways: stiff, uncomfortable teleprompter reading in a low tone immediately followed by incendiary and racist tweets, or, he'll have Stephen Miller write the speech and unifying it will not be.

That NPR poll is consistent with a recent Pew Research survey that found that college-educated women now lean Democratic by a 2-to-1 margin.

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via https://www.people-press.org/2020/06/02/in-changing-u-s-electorate-race-and-education-remain-stark-dividing-lines/

You people need to stop worrying about trump giving a good speech that has long term effects on people’s attitudes. It has never happened.

It will definitely happen this time. Trump on race? It's practically a sure thing. Right in his wheelhouse, if you will.

I think if someone did just hail mary a vote to Trump, then there's no reason to believe they wouldn't at least be similarly inclined to hail mary a vote to Biden this time. And if Biden gives them pause but Trump *didn't* then they are never going to vote Biden, anyway.

i posted this in another thread, but check out mitch mcconnell's competitor for his senate seat this fall:

I literally almost jumped out of my seat when I watched this. It physically made me react. This is leadership. @Booker4KY #BookerBeatsMitch pic.twitter.com/3dK74xQj6l

— Dave 🌹 (@nodank_) June 7, 2020

fuck yeah. send this guy money, and fuck mitch mcconnell for life

I'm sure you all are posting good stuff, but unfortunately I can no longer process visual information after DJP's post

You people need to stop worrying about trump giving a good speech that has long term effects on people’s attitudes. It has never happened.

exactly. closest I can think of was his first SOTU which the media saw as a genuine "turning point" but, like everything else, he trampled over it in a matter of days. iirc he did give a 'unifying' speech after Charlottesville and nobody bought it. whatever 'good' things he says he'll immediately walk back within a few hours

Because it's not a unifying speech if you're trying to unify people with, like, white supremacists.

So does Booker or McGrath have a chance against McConnell?