US Politics, June 2020 — You have to dominate.

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please, please, will someone fill up this page with the most hateful and fascist thinking possible? preferably a US senator? pleeeeeeease

Karl Malone, Friday, 5 June 2020 17:16 (six years ago)

I'm not really a religious person but I am starting to think this man might be the antichrist

honestly, peak times for straight up unchristian words and deeds

j., Friday, 5 June 2020 17:17 (six years ago)

remember when nyt actually had a public editor?

voodoo chili, Friday, 5 June 2020 17:48 (six years ago)

They fired her iirc

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 5 June 2020 18:12 (six years ago)

Well, the last NYT public editor, Liz Spayd, wasn't great. But her predecessor, Margaret Sullivan, was excellent. (And she continues to be insightful as WaPo's media critic.)

jaymc, Friday, 5 June 2020 18:27 (six years ago)

My son just looked at the television and said "Daddy, do you think these rioters will register to vote?" He's a 46 year old Vox journalist and I hate him so fucking much.

— Socialist Alternative Rock & Pop Punk (@MildCuthbert) June 4, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 6 June 2020 01:11 (six years ago)

fantastic

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Saturday, 6 June 2020 04:19 (six years ago)

General Mattis Condemns Trump As Threat To Constitution https://t.co/Y5NLuFN9nC #WhatDoYouThink? pic.twitter.com/5crIX7m2fJ

— The Onion (@TheOnion) June 5, 2020

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 6 June 2020 05:36 (six years ago)

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/janeese-lewis-george-districi-of-columbia-police-reform-city-councils_n_5edaab12c5b6dc3de7b95082

Normally, a local council race would have little resonance outside the city or district where it took place. But the mailers and the protests in Washington and nationwide transformed the election into the “first major referendum on policing” in the country since the demonstrations began, said Tahir Duckett, a civil rights attorney in Washington.

The result was clear: On Tuesday, just 24 hours after federal and D.C. police violently cracked down on protests across Washington, Lewis George appeared to have easily defeated incumbent Councilman Brandon Todd ― although the election hadn’t yet been officially called by Friday, she held a seemingly insurmountable 12-percentage-point lead in the Democratic primary race, which in D.C. serves as a de facto general election.

The resounding victory will give Lewis George a powerful voice over a police force that ranks among the nation’s largest, relative to the local population. But it’s also a reminder, criminal justice reform advocates say, that although city councils are often overlooked, perhaps no level of government has more direct power to affect the immediate and sweeping changes to American police departments that protesters and activist groups, including Black Lives Matter, have demanded.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 6 June 2020 14:46 (six years ago)

damn straight. that's great news.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 6 June 2020 16:49 (six years ago)

She came to my house! I’m so happy she won

El Tomboto, Saturday, 6 June 2020 17:42 (six years ago)

This thread -- I just -- just read it, read the whole thing, you'll thank me

It’s Martin Luther King day, so here’s a THREAD on NONVIOLENT PROTEST:

1/x

1) War is a kind of negotiation, not an alternative to it.

The goal in war is not to kill all enemy soldiers, but to *convince enemy leadership to surrender.*

Victory is thus a matter of persuasion. pic.twitter.com/o2f4FofbKx

— Mike Elias 💡📈 (@harmonylion1) January 20, 2020

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 6 June 2020 19:03 (six years ago)

buy my ripple xrp

1/x

Karl Malone, Saturday, 6 June 2020 19:13 (six years ago)

the hard turn into harry potter and bitcoin was... upsetting

Prosecutor Bradley Tankerton (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 6 June 2020 19:14 (six years ago)

none more trump

Trump’s photo op at a Maine factory making badly needed Covid testing swabs actually slowed production: After his tour without a mask, the factory had to trash the day’s output. https://t.co/OnaU7xTXN7

— Peter Elkind (@peterelkind) June 6, 2020

mookieproof, Saturday, 6 June 2020 20:11 (six years ago)

wtf at that twitter thread about bitcoin

shout-out to his family (DJP), Saturday, 6 June 2020 20:18 (six years ago)

that mike elias guy is a bloviating investor type, ignore

akm, Saturday, 6 June 2020 20:34 (six years ago)

Today in Emails from the Sweaty and Desperate...

Subject line: NO KNEELING!

Bob,

The American Flag is to be revered, cherished, and flown high. We should be standing up straight and tall, ideally with a salute, or a hand on heart.

There are other things you can protest, but not our Great American Flag - NO KNEELING!

Our beautiful American Flag should be respected and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply UN-AMERICAN! President Trump wants to send the left a message that protesting the American Flag is absolutely unacceptable, but he can’t do it without you.

He’s calling on YOU to step up, Bob. He wants to know who had his back during this time, so we’re sending him a list of supporters who publicly sign their name to stand with him and our flag.

Please stand with President Trump in the NEXT 3 HOURS and DEMAND respect for the American Flag.

INSTANT PETITION SIGNATURE

Please confirm your information below:

Bob Dobalina
b***************@g***l.com


ADD YOUR NAME NOW >>

Please add your name in the NEXT 3 HOURS to stand with President Trump!

President Trump needs to know he can count on you right now, Bob.

If you add your name in the NEXT 3 HOURS, we’ll make sure it’s at the VERY TOP of the petition we give the President.

INSTANT PETITION SIGNATURE

Please confirm your information below:

Bob Dobalina
b***************@g***l.com


ADD YOUR NAME NOW >>

Please add your name in the NEXT 3 HOURS to stand with President Trump!

Thank you,

Team Trump 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 6 June 2020 20:57 (six years ago)

NOT GREAT BOB

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 6 June 2020 21:20 (six years ago)

ya gotta pay a fee dobalina

mookieproof, Saturday, 6 June 2020 21:35 (six years ago)

to take a knee dobalina

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 6 June 2020 21:57 (six years ago)

NOT GREAT BOB

I'm hoping to see this subject line the morning of November 4...

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 6 June 2020 22:07 (six years ago)

freedom ain't free dobalina
don't call us bob
we'll call u

dominance and transmission (Matt #2), Saturday, 6 June 2020 22:10 (six years ago)

Ya really make me sick with ya fraudulent behavior

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 June 2020 22:15 (six years ago)

INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK!

Trump uses emergency powers to sign executive order voiding the Endangered Species Act, the Clean Water Act, and National Environmental Policy Act, which requires rigorous environmental review before building new infrastructure like highways or pipelines.

“From the beginning of my Administration, I have focused on reforming and streamlining an outdated regulatory system that has held back our economy with needless paperwork and costly delays. The need for continued progress in this streamlining effort is all the more acute now, due to the ongoing economic crisis.”

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Saturday, 6 June 2020 22:26 (six years ago)

WTF

Karl Malone, Saturday, 6 June 2020 22:29 (six years ago)

which requires rigorous environmental review before building new infrastructure like highways or pipelines.

and, importantly for trump, large real estate developments

Karl Malone, Saturday, 6 June 2020 22:33 (six years ago)

i see we're racing toward the "well if he gets booted, what's the most outrageous shit we can push for domestically" territory

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 6 June 2020 22:36 (six years ago)

Looks like they really are moving the convention to Florida https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/us/politics/republican-convention-charlotte-2020.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 6 June 2020 22:38 (six years ago)

Maaan fuuuuuuck you Repubs

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 June 2020 22:49 (six years ago)

Trump uses emergency powers to sign executive order voiding the Endangered Species Act, the Clean Water Act, and National Environmental Policy Act, which requires rigorous environmental review before building new infrastructure like highways or pipelines.

I'm not seeing this news reported elsewhere.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 June 2020 23:27 (six years ago)

NPR and MSN and The Hill

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Saturday, 6 June 2020 23:37 (six years ago)

ugh, just found that NPR story you linked, thanks.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 June 2020 23:38 (six years ago)

but tHeY're alL tHe sAmE

i am not throwing away my snot (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 6 June 2020 23:41 (six years ago)

I mean, feels like it should be being reported elsewhere

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Saturday, 6 June 2020 23:46 (six years ago)

I mean, feels like it /should/ be being reported elsewhere

It was in the Washington Post on like page A10 and very brief.

Boring, Maryland, Sunday, 7 June 2020 00:51 (six years ago)

Putting this here rather than in the NY Times thread because it seems pretty obviously politics-related: James Bennet has resigned from the Times, and James Dao, a deputy opinion editor who oversaw op-eds, will "step off the masthead to move into a new role in the newsroom," according to the publisher.

Letter from AG Sulzberger: Bennet has resigned; JIm Dao stepping off masthead and away from opinion; Katie Kingsbury acting editorial page editor thru election. Letter to staff from AG Sulzberger pic.twitter.com/7nFOvXzxx0

— marc tracy (@marcatracy) June 7, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 7 June 2020 20:32 (six years ago)

A very genteel shitcanning

all cats are beautiful (silby), Sunday, 7 June 2020 20:34 (six years ago)

wau

mookieproof, Sunday, 7 June 2020 20:35 (six years ago)

It's almost like they decided to check the pulse of their readership, and of New Yorkers in general, and discovered that they all find Tom Cotton appalling, and the idea of giving him a national platform for his abhorrent ideas, instead of burnishing the reputation of the NYT for even-handedness, has seriously harmed the reputation of the NYT's editorial judgment and deeply undermined any trust that people had in it.

Should've thought of that sooner, imo.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 7 June 2020 20:43 (six years ago)

Sulzberger should fucking resign too

Karl Malone, Sunday, 7 June 2020 20:50 (six years ago)

this is like Trump firing Barr for being a fascist asshole.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 7 June 2020 20:50 (six years ago)

I feel like "Oh, the Cotton thing? No, I didn't read it before we ran it - should I have, you think?" was the last nail in Bennet's coffin.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 7 June 2020 20:52 (six years ago)

from a couple days ago:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/05/crisis-conviction-new-york-times/

Within hours, Editorial Page Editor James Bennet took a defensive stance on Twitter, writing, “I want to explain why we published the piece today by Senator Tom Cotton.” His defense begat more outrage. On Thursday morning, Times publisher A.G. Sulzberger sent a memo to colleagues defending the decision. Bennet also wrote a more formal defense expanding on his tweets.

Yet, by late afternoon Thursday, the Times had bailed on the entire affair: “We’ve examined the piece and the process leading up to its publication,” the paper said in a statement. “This review made clear that a rushed editorial process led to the publication of an Op-Ed that did not meet our standards. As a result, we’re planning to examine both short term and long term changes, to include expanding our fact checking operation and reducing the number of Op-Eds we publish.”

One moment, Cotton’s op-ed upheld the “principle of openness to a range of opinions,” according to Sulzberger’s memo to staffers. The next moment, its publication fell beneath the newspaper’s lofty requirements.

What happened here?

A reading problem, for one. A staff meeting on Thursday afternoon produced the revelation that Bennet himself hadn’t read the op-ed before its publication, according to a report in the New York Times itself. The boss’s failure to inspect every piece of copy churning through the Opinion section is in itself no scandal, considering its voluminous output. The culprit in this case, however, was a collective, shared sense that Cotton’s proposal to invade urban America with U.S. troops was fit to proceed along the usual editorial glide path.

...And much of the attention has fallen on Bennet’s opinion pages. He recruited former Wall Street Journal columnist Bret Stephens in April 2017 and watched as his new hire’s first column — about climate change — got mauled on social media. The column itself still bears a scar from that set-to, a consequential correction about how Stephens characterized the impact of climate change.

Other gaffes stemmed from management and process flubs. A year ago, the Opinion section published an anti-Semitic cartoon, prompting the newspaper to acknowledge that the responsible editor was “working without adequate oversight” in a "faulty process.” The section hired journalist Quinn Norton in 2018 to write about technology, only to then realize that she had written about neo-Nazi friendships and other troublesome material. She was fired hours after her hiring was announced. Another 2018 hire, Sarah Jeong, had written derisive remarks about white people; she lasted about a year.

In June 2017, the New York Times published an editorial suggesting that Sarah Palin’s political action committee had incited the murderous 2011 rampage of Jared Lee Loughner in Arizona. Palin sued for defamation, a step that opened the editorial process to a blast of sunlight. As it turned out, Bennet had inserted problematic language in the editorial without having taken basic, essential steps to confirm the details.

Missteps notwithstanding, Bennet has long been regarded as a possible successor to Executive Editor Dean Baquet. As recently as last fall, Sulzberger said this about Bennet to The Post: “Under his leadership, Opinion has been vital, creative and unafraid to tackle big issues, from privacy to domestic abuse to the legacy of slavery. He’s not only a great editor, but a deeply honorable one. As much as any journalist I’ve worked with, he’s constantly pushing himself to make the right journalistic decision.”

...How the masthead of the New York Times looks back on all this is difficult to discern. In Friday’s staff meeting, Sulzberger said that the op-ed never should have been published and didn’t meet the newspaper’s standards — this, after writing on Thursday that it embodied the paper’s spirit. In explaining that contradiction to colleagues at the meeting, Sulzberger downplayed the memo as a “placeholder” while the newspaper looked into the matter, according to sources logged into the meeting.

This particular placeholder isn’t holding anything.

The New York Times is experiencing a crisis of leadership and conviction. In just two days, it has alienated staffers, readers, liberals, conservatives, free-expression absolutists of all political persuasions and Tom Cotton. There’s a saying in Washington that if you’re angering both sides, you must be doing something right. The Times’s recent actions prove that such “wisdom” is a crock.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 7 June 2020 21:10 (six years ago)

i guess that belongs in a NYT thread, sorry

Karl Malone, Sunday, 7 June 2020 21:11 (six years ago)

I can't tell the dead Sulzbergers from the living

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2020 21:12 (six years ago)

"Pepper spray is not a chemical irritant. It's not chemical" -- AG Barr uses painstaking distinctions to defend the use of force against protesters near the White House last Monday pic.twitter.com/CQbtqLwfIk

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 7, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2020 21:15 (six years ago)

The boss’s failure to inspect every piece of copy churning through the Opinion section is in itself no scandal, considering its voluminous output.

merely looking at the headline should have caused ~someone~ to think twice, but apparently there were no editorial layers between a 25yo former weekly standard staffer and publication. apart from everything else, that's just shitty management

mookieproof, Sunday, 7 June 2020 21:20 (six years ago)

xpost

The boss’s failure to inspect every piece of copy churning through the Opinion section is in itself no scandal, considering its voluminous output.

WRONG. That's the bare minimum that should have been expected of him (or any editor).

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 7 June 2020 21:21 (six years ago)


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