US Politics, June 2020 — You have to dominate.

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really wish I hadn't read that I'm having an anuerysm

On the contrary, nihilist criminals are simply out for loot and the thrill of destruction, with cadres of left-wing radicals like antifa infiltrating protest marches to exploit Floyd’s death for their own anarchic purposes.

^that's a hotlink to Barr's statement on categorizing Antifa as terror group, FUCK THE NEW YORK TIMES

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:03 (six years ago)

the link to antifa goes to a bill barr press release. i should really unsubscribe.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:04 (six years ago)

dude

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:05 (six years ago)

A lot of people persist in thinking Tom Cotton could be president one day. Apparently James Bennet is one of them, and wanted to taste-test his balls in advance.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:05 (six years ago)

NYT precedent

Well, there was this ... if in 1941 pic.twitter.com/b6af2D4qYl

— Jules Boykoff (@JulesBoykoff) June 4, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:08 (six years ago)

I realize I am the only person on this board who thinks this

No. I think that's a fairly accurate reading of what they thought they were doing, but it was probably less about who they feared would get the job if they refused, and more about the obviously paramount need to steer events safely through the Trump minefield. Which they thought they could do. But no one can.

Morbs would not be impressed by that, because in his eyes being a general officer is disqualifying for the offices they filled, simply by reason of their military training and allegiance.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:08 (six years ago)

But Barr very clearly teabags Trump like nobody's business.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:13 (six years ago)

not sure barr really cares about trump; he just wants to see people under the boot

mookieproof, Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:17 (six years ago)

Mattis is a war criminal, serving Trump is just a cherry on the fuck him forever cake.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:23 (six years ago)

jfc how much of a piece of shit is james bennet https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-york-times-staffers-in-open-revolt-over-running-tom-cottons-send-in-the-troops-column?source=twitter&via=desktop

El Tomboto, Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:33 (six years ago)

both sides! even if one is calling for state-sponsored murder!

mookieproof, Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:41 (six years ago)

But Barr very clearly teabags Trump like nobody's business.

― A is for (Aimless)

Thanks for the image!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:51 (six years ago)

Thread got thirsty all of a sudden...

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:53 (six years ago)

I don't even understand why newspapers have opinion sections and editorials in the first place. It's fucking stupid, just more noise.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:53 (six years ago)

Entertainment.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 4 June 2020 01:54 (six years ago)

It’s relatively cheap content and often generates lots of “engagement”

El Tomboto, Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:00 (six years ago)

Op-eds are free, columnists get paid a lot but are cheap in regards to expenses, people click on stupid shit

El Tomboto, Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:01 (six years ago)

They should cancel them all and just give a blank check to Bill Waterson instead.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:02 (six years ago)

Like, the entire internet is one big stupid opinion column, I read newspapers to counteract the noise, not to amplify it.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:04 (six years ago)

That said, I canceled my subscription to the Times a few years ago because the bullshit got too much. They have been so consistently cynical in how they have been covering this administration that it often does a grave disservice to and even undercuts all the hard work their excellent reporters have been doing.

And don't even get me started on the Chicago Tribune editorial board endorsing Gary Johnson.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:07 (six years ago)

for real. where's the tax returns?

― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, June 4, 2020 8:37 AM (forty-four minutes ago)

📯📯📯

massage angry pixels (sic), Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:39 (six years ago)

good evening!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:41 (six years ago)

good evening alfred

El Tomboto, Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:43 (six years ago)

Going to bed shortly, after a blast of Lady Gaga and Jorge Ben.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 June 2020 02:57 (six years ago)

the times does a great deal of good work, a great deal of fluffing the rich and occasionally is an abomination.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:03 (six years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/politics/pat-robertson-donald-trump/?iid=ob_lockedrail_topeditorial

I know how awful Pat Robertson is--just looking at this as possible evidence of all this as a turning point (or, to put it another way, of people running for cover).

clemenza, Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:06 (six years ago)

xpost Alas, the abominations are often the chosen headlines, which happen to be printed in a type size several times larger than that used in the story itself, and also happen to be the most the average person probably sees or reads of the Times.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:07 (six years ago)

yes

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:08 (six years ago)

it's easy and satisfying, though unfair, to hold hundreds of editors and reporters and photographers responsible for the fuckheaded decisions of one editor in a different office

massage angry pixels (sic), Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:09 (six years ago)

rare case where i'd recommend reading the comments though

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:10 (six years ago)

You mean the opinion sub-columns?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:11 (six years ago)

how else should one hold the fuckheaded decisions responsible

mookieproof, Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:11 (six years ago)

Nyt op eds have comment threads.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:16 (six years ago)

Xp, not to mookie.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:16 (six years ago)

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/donald-trumps-fascist-performance

Donald Trump thinks power looks like masked men in combat uniforms lined up in front of the marble columns of the Lincoln Memorial. He thinks it looks like Black Hawk helicopters hovering so low over protesters that they chop off the tops of trees. He thinks it looks like troops using tear gas to clear a plaza for a photo op. He thinks it looks like him hoisting a Bible in his raised right hand.

Trump thinks power sounds like this: “Our country always wins. That is why I am taking immediate Presidential action to stop the violence and restore security and safety in America . . . dominate the streets . . . establish an overwhelming law-enforcement presence. . . . If a city or state refuses . . . I will deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem for them. . . . We are putting everybody on warning. . . . One law and order and that is what it is. One law—we have one beautiful law.” To Trump, power sounds like the word “dominate,” repeated over and over on a leaked call with governors. It sounds like the silence of the men in uniform when they are asked who they are.

Trump got these ideas from television and Hollywood movies, and he had the intuition to recognize them. He knew what he wanted to imitate. We know that he likes the military and its parades. (A senior Administration official, speaking with the Daily Beast, attempted to downplay the President’s interest in tanks: “I think that is just one of the military words he knows.”) Perhaps he has seen many movies that feature the Black Hawk, that monster of military-industrial production, the metal embodiment of brute force. Perhaps Trump heard that, when Russia occupied Crimea, it flooded the peninsula with men in unmarked uniforms—they dominated without ever identifying themselves. Perhaps he heard the word “dominate” in his recent telephone conversation with Vladimir Putin. Perhaps he had seen a picture of Hitler in a similar pose, or perhaps he just conflated two gestures that symbolize power in American politics: one hand raised, the other on the Bible—this may explain the slight uncertainty of his display, as if he weren’t sure how much the book was supposed to weigh.

The President is a talented performer who plays an exaggerated version of an idea of who he is. On “The Apprentice,” he played what he thought a wildly successful real-estate developer would be like. He made inane pronouncements with great aplomb, and, as my colleague Patrick Radden Keefe wrote, in a Profile of the creator of “The Apprentice,” Mark Burnett, Trump made bizarre decisions that the makers of the show then scrambled to make look credible in the editing room. When the show started, Trump was a has-been, an occasional butt of tabloid jokes; by the time it ended, he and the audience both believed that he was one of the wealthiest and most successful businessmen on the planet. That, in turn, made his Presidential campaign if not immediately plausible then at least imaginable.

A power grab is always a performance of sorts. It begins with a claim to power, and if the claim is accepted—if the performance is believed—it takes hold. Much as he played a real-estate tycoon in the most crude and reductive way, Trump is now performing his idea of power as he imagines it. In his intuition, power is autocratic; it affirms the superiority of one nation and one race; it asserts total domination; and it mercilessly suppresses all opposition. Whether or not he is capable of grasping the concept, Trump is performing fascism.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 June 2020 03:28 (six years ago)

I don't even understand why newspapers have opinion sections and editorials in the first place.

(sings)
Don't know much about history.
Don't know what an op-ed is for.
Don't know much about politics.
Or why publishers manipulate.
But I do know one and one is two,
and if editors spoke the truth,
what a wonderful world this would be.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:14 (six years ago)

Of the three letters making news tonight, this one is the big deal. It is a big deal that he felt the need to issue it. It is a big deal that he issued it. pic.twitter.com/ONHniXXLst

— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) June 4, 2020

j., Thursday, 4 June 2020 05:32 (six years ago)

What the ever loving fuck

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 4 June 2020 05:46 (six years ago)

Yeah, he’s implicitly reminding everyone in uniform that they obey lawful orders, not the other kind.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 4 June 2020 06:24 (six years ago)

That letter is quite something

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 June 2020 09:55 (six years ago)

the military taking the opportunity to differentiate themselves from the police! still too many war crimes but a nice gesture idk

imago, Thursday, 4 June 2020 10:13 (six years ago)

not that one should entirely trust the og planet subjugation force ;)

imago, Thursday, 4 June 2020 10:17 (six years ago)

Rudy shits the bed. All of the bed. And the bedroom. And the rest of his house.

Rudy Giuliani completely loses the plot on #GMB.

Piers Morgan - you sound completely barking mad. pic.twitter.com/iS6kyJWfVi

— Haggis_UK 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 (@Haggis_UK) June 4, 2020

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 4 June 2020 12:09 (six years ago)

Ot one point I was convinced he was going to shout "BOXCAR!"

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 4 June 2020 12:11 (six years ago)

He said “sucked up” though

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 4 June 2020 12:28 (six years ago)

Fuck Piers Morgan for years of defending Trump

nashwan, Thursday, 4 June 2020 12:29 (six years ago)

Earlier in that interview, Giuliani finally explains what Trump meant when he said 'when the looting starts, the shooting starts' (not a retaliatory boast, you see, but a recognition that people who loot will naturally progress to shooting police officers and what have you).

Those two walking nutsacks deserve one another.

Fun-Loving and Furry-Curious! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 June 2020 12:33 (six years ago)

He said “sucked up” though

Rudy def needs new dentures

Fuck Piers Morgan for years of defending Trump

at least

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 4 June 2020 12:44 (six years ago)

Rudy shits the bed. All of the bed. And the bedroom. And the rest of his house.

when he shits around the house...he really shits around the house

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 June 2020 12:46 (six years ago)

not that one should entirely trust the og planet subjugation force ;)


Thought that was the British army?

Boring, Maryland, Thursday, 4 June 2020 12:53 (six years ago)


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