US Politics, June 2020 — You have to dominate.

Love to give 4 year olds PTSD

Then he would bomb the Tower of Terror

Thing is, it's completely impossible to imagine Trump successfully reading a children's book to a kindergarten class.

shouldn't you have a sign that says "fresh fish sold here today"

I know this will be greeted with derision by some of you, but I'm all for it.

http://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/politics/obama-george-floyd/index.html

I especially hope Trump immediately schedules a press conference or Oval Office address or "Zooming with DJT" forum at the same time, and CNN and MSNBC cover Obama instead (which they obviously would, so he won't).

A data point.

RCP poll leads on this day in history:

2020: Biden +8.0
2016: Clinton +1.5
2012: Obama +1.3
2008: Obama +1.4

I think people generally remember the Obama wins as much easier and more predictable than they were.

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) June 3, 2020

My only sliver of doubt about Obama's eventual 2008 victory came exactly ten hours after Sarah Palin's RNC debut.

In 2012, most doubts dissipated after the spring. I wasn't much rattled by Obama's first debate performance.

I had no doubt Clinton would win in 2016.

Kerry was +1.6

I disassociated for the latter half of 2003 and all of 2004 so I can't remember what my expectations were that summer.

dissociated*

the 2012 win wasn't a surprise, but it definitely came a bit easier than the conventional wisdom suspected

If only Dems controlled the House, they could investigate deployment of military in Washington, maybe figure out the deal with "federal law enforcement officers" who won't identify themselves, get answers on DEA role in investigating protests. Subpoena Milley, Barr, Esper, etc https://t.co/uHqRGkeAMo

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) June 3, 2020

Yes. The House Committees could issue subpoenas, which Barr would instruct all federal employees to ignore. Then the House could sue for compliance and take it all the way to the Supreme Court! Then Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh would vote to back Barr, leaving John Roberts to play the Swing Vote role again. Maybe issuing an opinion by next June. Hotcha!

lots of federal employees have already ignored executive branch instructions not to testify before house committees.

https://www.justsecurity.org/66742/why-officials-keep-testifying-despite-white-house-counsels-letter-on-impeachment-inquiry/

xp Aimless that’s no reason not to do it

if not for the short-term than for history every one of their obstructions needs to go on the record

the 2012 win wasn't a surprise, but it definitely came a bit easier than the conventional wisdom suspected

― voodoo chili, Wednesday, June 3, 2020 4:52 PM bookmarkflaglink

it was touch and go for a bit after the first debate! much of the data was just a temporary spike that corrected itself, and most of the prognosticators like 538, NYT, PEC, Drew Linzer et al did have Obama as the slight favorite throughout Sept/October, but it was close enough that dumb conservatives actually thought they were winning, and Rasmussen actually forecasted a Romney electoral victory a few weeks before the election. My friend got invited to a Free At Last party by a delusional Romney stan that was convinced they were going to win.

I definitely wasn't shocked when it happened, as by election week, Obama had started to pull away and 538 gave him better odds than Clinton had on election day, but we were all very nervous iirc in the election thread, whereas Obama was pretty much the favorite as soon as Palin showed up.

normal decision tree

Only a couple hours ago, the AP reported that the Pentagon was beginning to send regular Army troops deployed to DC back to their home bases. Now Secretary Esper has abruptly reversed that order. Seems very likely that the White House found out – quite possibly from the news report – and ordered Esper to reverse course.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/remarkable-remarkable

what's the over/under on how long it would take a lame-duck GOP Senate to change the SCOTUS confirmation rules back to what they were before they changed them in 2017 to confirm Gorsuch and Kavanaugh...if Dems took the Senate.

Obama was pretty much the favorite as soon as Palin showed up.

Palin was less a factor in 2008 than McCain's near-paralysis in the face of the financial collapse in September/October. With Republicans holding power for 8 straight years, it was impossible to deflect responsibility for the collapse onto the Democrats. Bush lost what was left of his public support as Wall Street burned and the TARP was unveiled, and he took McCain down with him because McCain wasn't free to repudiate his party's leadership.

Aimless, I slightly disagree. McCain absolutely was in a position to repudiate party leadership because as The Maverick he could've done, but instead his intellectual sloth, moral torpor, and general stupidity prevented him. No Republican would've won in 2008, let's be clear, but McCain could've done better if he hadn't been Overrated John McCain.

Mad Dog is mad:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/james-mattis-denounces-trump-protests-militarization/612640/

so The Maverick wasn't always 100% bullshit? xp

Holy shit Mattis

“Devoir de reserve” Mattis (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/10/james-mattis-trump/596665/)

Well that was unexpected. Is he the highest profile ex-Trump appointee to trash the fucker?

for real. where's the tax returns?

man if there's a conspiracy by 'the deep state' to keep trump's hands tied i wish it would hurry the fuck up

I'm sure someone already posted this, but just in case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZevgdbMIB0

so The Maverick wasn't always 100% bullshit? xp

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, June 3, 2020 6:18 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Worse than bullshit, but no one here believed it.

i'm a 9/11 truther

to be clear, i mean that i believe GWB really did read that book. he fucking nailed it!

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, June 3, 2020 2:01 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

grand slam

Mattis 'trashed' everything when he was fired. your short memories puzzle me

“I had no choice but to leave,” he says in that book interview. same shit, different volume, adjusted for audience.

OK doctor

he's not a real doctor

Everything anybody else posts is just dross for your supercilious punker-than-thou sanctimony. This is actually why we post tbf

is it punk to wonder how moist Rachel Maddow got when she licked that Mattis copy tonight? slid right onto the studio floor in 3 seconds, I bet. MSNBC Glide.

I wanna see her riding a missile Major Kong / Hanoi Jane style. so fuckin' butch

I don’t know why I keep tapping through to read your posts after I killfiled you, I really need better hobbies.

Your misogyny is noted

I don't think its supercilious of me to want to shoot every career military man in the head

I didn't know Mattis had a pussy

Now we have to rate the thread "Adult" - thanks, Morbs

I don't think any of us are on the Jim Mattis Tugjob Committee, just noting that this is 70 times more vitriol that any other departed appointee has managed thus far. Everybody else has just gone into silent retirement or been named Scaramucci.

Of course, nobody's going to ask him to his face about the time he spent licking Trump's boots.

It's not not a big deal.

esp whem you are threatening to wield the military

when

Mattis Tugjob Committee would good name for an acappella group.

anyway the point isn't what we think of four-star generals, it's that Trump worships them and he's gotta be cwwwwyyyyying right now

this is his worst nightmare, being called a "baby" (not mature)—up there with "dog" as his favorite insult—by a big strong so handsome tough army man

i just saw that Tom Cotton oped in the times and holy god, fuck them.