US Politics, June 2020 — You have to dominate.

her comm team is good. really, really good

#nailedit

2020: a cross between veep and idiocracy

you must admit the following scene seems a lot more realistic than it did just a few years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGUNPMPrxvA

kushner is joe

Why legislate now when you can legislator, am I right?

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, June 2, 2020 6:33 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I've got legs but
I'm not a legislator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muhFxXce6nA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muhFxXce6nA

Fun to think about what the republican response to Tea Partiers getting teargassed and Obama calling for greater force would have been.

Hard to say. They do like to be dominated, after all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rczBM8BnQBk

Trying to imagine explaining this turn of events to someone from 1980 and not getting very far

Kpop fans are taking over M*GA and pro-police hashtags and crashing law enforcement snitch apps and it’s beautiful https://t.co/h2HzGj9MEx pic.twitter.com/uUPgHOu76W

— Laura Hudson (@laura_hudson) June 3, 2020

Well I mean the ROK wasn’t really even culturally equipped to have its current entertainment industry in 1980, for one thing

Steve King out, it seems.

I know we aren’t supposed to express our defeatist fears here, but seeing the photo of the troops lined up on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial really hammered home for me that this week is the end of democracy. Trump’s absolutely got the police and military behind him 100%, he will never step down. It’s over.

The military are not behind Trump, they’re beholden to a strict hierarchy, their service contracts, and to the people next to them in line. They’re as scared of this as anyone.

Cops have powerful unions and can quit anytime they want. Don’t pile the military in with them.

yeah, that's a wee bit dramatic. the troops were National Guard, and they weren't standing on the memorial out of allegiance to Trump. they were requested by Defense Secretary Esper from other states, and those that were willing sent theirs there (many Democratic state Governors also refused to send their guard there).

Trump would need the support of the entire fuckin' army to pull off a coup like that, and.....nah. we're nowhere near that.

most of the military guys I know hate his fucking guts

my National Guard ex hates his fucking guts

Fully aware I’m being overdramatic, I’ve just never felt as hopeless as I’ve been this week watching cops just go full bore on protestors. While I believe a fair number of National Guards hate him, it’s that “following orders” mindset that got us where we are today. I’m just freaked the fuck out.

do any of you think that this will mark a sort of seismic shift against trump? it seems like republican leadership would see the writing on the wall here. he's gonna fucking lose, and he is a fucking asshole that pretty much everyone on the planet hates. (of course, i have thought that this moment would come hundreds of times over the last 3 years....)

yeah, that's a wee bit dramatic.

Jon you seem like a great guy but "wee bit dramatic" is a kind description in general

I don't think it's ever going to come from Leadership, unless it's October and they have given up. even today, the most GOP Senators could manage is to claim his tweets "aren't helpful" or "aren't constructive", and when asked about the Insurrection Act, it was the same rhetoric they pulled with the "what if he fires Mueller" line of questioning - "hopefully he doesn't do that!", "I think it's premature to be talking about things he hasn't done yet", "well, I THINK it's premature, but if things change" type bet hedging.

and most of them defended his little photo-op and teargas dispersal.

voters, on the other hand, I think the way he's performed in two crises may siphon even more independents. i do think this is going to hurt him in the race, definitely

xxpost I'm not meaning to have a go at jon, just that the post in general was dramatic. but I also understand just about everybody here is dealing with a cacophony of anxiety so I understand how every development can have us on edge.

I don’t think jon is wrong to feel freaked out. This is all very fucked up, none of us should normalize it in any way. We’re all in a fucked up situation.

xps don't forget the old people who aren't thrilled about being abandoned to the plague

Personally I think he’s fucked himself and with any luck he’s fucked Republican control of the Senate. This many people turning out under the threat of COVID, tear gas, pepper spray and rubber bullets? Imagine how many will turn out just to vote.

This assumes we have something like “peacetime” come November. Nobody really knows what winter will bring. But people hate him. They hate him so much it’s frankly impressive.

I knew I shouldn’t have posted that, just being cooped up at home for three months and now being surrounded by horrible news, images of shocking violence everywhere I turn and that goddamn orange idiot stirring shit up at every opportunity has my anxiety at an all time level.

I’ll just say it’s hard not that let worst case scenarios spiral out in your head during all of this shit.

“hard not to”

it ain't like that man, you're stressed, we're all stressed, and this is how it manifests itself sometimes. you're good people.

I don't know if this represents a shift against Trump and the GOP, but if this goes long enough and their numbers sink low enough, they will eventually try to find some way to make peace just to save what's left of their political lives. Those are very big ifs though.

Apparently old-people social media (local Facebook groups) are et up with people freaking out about Antifa invasions. One woman I know said her grandparents own a business in a small town (a town not menaced by anything at all) and they spent the night at the business last night because they were afraid it was about to be looted.

Tons of troll posts circulating warning about Antifa forces gathering in, like, mall and Target parking lots.

at the mall, stealing cds from Sam Goody

to be fair, once all the nazis wrap up their urban sojourns they'll probably throw in a little light vandalism once they get home just to dot all their i's

Unless approval among registered R voters somehow dips far below 95% I’m afraid the party is ride or die w/ Trump and nothing—nothing—is going to change their calculus

do any of you think that this will mark a sort of seismic shift against trump?

good news is it really doesn't have to, Trump driving down GOP turnout even 1% is huge given the razor thin margins they're on

yeah, i agree with that. but for the same reason, given how thin the margins were in 2016, if he's doing significantly worse and he's clearly going to lose, it could turn into a landslide

i am knocking on all wood, trust me

Joe Biden still needs to eventually appear on television for at least 10 minutes one sort of would think

As I often say, five months is an eternity in US presidential politics. Assume nothing.

My favorite theory for why the GOP leadership can’t turn on the Trump admin is because there’s kompromat on all of them. Better to retire a little early due to a lost election than have a select group of foreign agents turn CI and provide witness testimony

RIP steve king i guess

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO-kS1VU8AALGix?format=jpg&name=medium

i would guess that he'll be more influential and financially compensated in the white supremacist speaker scene

ah look! Resistance leader George W. Bush.

Makes you wonder if these "Presidents Obama and Bush should address the nation" people actually have a functioning memory.

it helps their Biden "enthusiasm" too

NPR tapped Klobuchar for remaining Floyd cops' fate interview just now; how on point

Trump Privately Backs Off From Sending Troops Into States Amid Unrest

After threatening states that he would dispatch the military to quell protests, President Donald Trump appeared to be privately backing off, with White House officials saying the response to demonstrations across the country indicated that local governments should be able to restore order themselves.

The shift came as protests in Washington and other cities over police brutality against minorities proceeded Tuesday with relative calm, a striking contrast to the harsh crackdowns outside the White House on Monday night. The president wanted to make the aggressive action in the nation’s capital an example for the rest of the country, a senior White House official said Tuesday.

someone will call him a punk bitch in like 2 hours and detroit will get carpet bombed have no fear