Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

Reports of looting all over the north side and north suburbs of Chicago this afternoon. According to what I've read on Twitter so far, they are pretty much all really well coordinated and over very quickly, often the same make and model cars being described at the scenes.

avg police training is 5 mos I think

suzy, that's how I interpreted your post too, thanks. sleeve, fuck you.

uhhhh https://t.co/CpEDqBcIX9 pic.twitter.com/dboAwMeAZ1

— Josh Fruhlinger (@jfruh) June 1, 2020

I know it is a rare honor, but I say this with all sincerity, fuck you sleeve.

so any thoughts on the new independent autopsy?

My only thought about the autopsy is worry considering it directly contradicts the bullshit "official" county medical examiners report, which apparently said some vile nonsense to the effect of "he wasn't strangulated/asphyxiated it was heart problems" or some similar nonsense. The last time Michael Baden was hired during the Eric Garner killing his findings agreed with those of the NYC Medical Examiner's office (that Garner was choked to death in a homicide)... and that still didn't convince the grand jury to indict the cop that killed him!! He kept his job for 5 more years until the DOJ finally brought criminal charges against him just last year! And apparently Minnesota's 3rd degree murder statute makes it harder to prove culpability beyond reasonable doubt?

it should help to counter the ridiculous narrative floated by the Hennepin county medical examiner that hinted at mysterious other causes, including non-existent drugs for which no evidence was offered. the problem is that false narratives get adopted and believed by people who want them to be true, so the examiner's report has already done much of its damage.

The previous coroner report still placed blame on the cop though, it was just less direct (restraint plus co-morbidities) whereas this one places direct blame on the cop and might support a murder 2 charge instead

Actually I got that wrong, the DOJ didn't do anything, it was only until a NYPD disciplinary hearing held just last year that the cop who killed Garner was finally fired. At least Chauvin is already out of a job in this situation... hopefully he'll be behind bars forever at the end of all this. And yea I was hoping and wondering if the independent autopsy's findings would support a higher criminal charge than just 3rd degree and manslaughter anyway.

Yes, the way that was written up by Hennepin dude was designed to lead a reader in a particular direction. Besides which, George Floyd may not have known about any of his own medical conditions - what 46-year-old man with work in the hospitality industry would be in the doctor’s office checking that out?

Things are apparently getting active in the inner western burbs again. Area that was hit yesterday getting shut down now, local businesses closer to me closing early. Even our vet. I expect another curfew.

I shouldn't pile on here, but that's just who I am right now. Sleeve, pull that again and get banned. Take a long, hard look in the mirror.

new info

pic.twitter.com/faQy2EAEjW

— Rochelle Olson (@rochelleolson) June 1, 2020

xpost - yeah, I'm hearing that all the grocery stores around us have been closed.

Ahh note "neck compression", which, while not asphyxiation, is not something the Prosecutors included in the charging statement, despite it being present in the report. They just let it fall under the "restrained by the police" umbrella.

i was not expecting malaria to be a danger at stalingrad

the only ppl who care about what any autopsy says are ppl whose "thoughts on the matter" s/b ignored anyway

Supposed to be 90 tomorrow, that should help things.

A national guard officer just walked through the Sunset/Laurel protest with this sign, to massive applause. pic.twitter.com/wrSXDGWlxZ

— Julia Wick (@sherlyholmes) June 1, 2020

Those good cops photo-ops are starting to get on my nerves.

Also, insane how that cop's attire is barely distinguishable from my mental picture of regular US soldiers.

National Guard are not cops.

Also, insane how that cop's attire is barely distinguishable from my mental picture of regular US soldiers.

hopefully my idiocy will bring levity in these hard times

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huge fuckin line of police vans drove across the bridge and down the street outside of my apartment just now. the insecurity is almost adorable

twenty minutes later he said he "misspoke" even though in this clip he goes out of his way to say that he understands his words are offensive and that he means it. fire that ass https://t.co/P3bDQbGWLF

— Hayes Davenport (@hayesdavenport) June 2, 2020

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/06/01/why-so-many-police-are-handling-the-protests-wrong

Thomson encountered this when he tried to make change in Camden. The police department was so dysfunctional that the city took the unprecedented step of disbanding the force and reconstituting a whole new agency from scratch. “When I had the opportunity to build a new police department, I was able to do in three days what would normally take me three years to do, because of work rules, because of the bureaucracy of collective bargaining agreements—there are a lot of impediments to reform,” Thomson said.

looters and protesters retroactively killed Floyd!

"Their minds, I meant to say it was on their minds."

haha i went to check on whether that was one of those deepfakes because it was so utterly nonsensical

The police department was so dysfunctional that the city took the unprecedented step of disbanding the force and reconstituting a whole new agency from scratch.

here is where right-wingers rediscover union power

A black family tried to get the attention of the police to protect a neighborhood store in Van Nuys and were immediately handcuffed. pic.twitter.com/5iZRXUvbMP

— Arash Markazi (@ArashMarkazi) June 2, 2020

Moments before they were handcuffed after trying to get the attention of the police, the woman described why it was important for her and her family to protect the store and their neighborhood. pic.twitter.com/BOFknyzUW1

— Arash Markazi (@ArashMarkazi) June 2, 2020

i am doing a small fundraiser here if people want to donate:

Hey, let me drunkenly animate your photos in about 25 to 60 days!

5 of 8 left

you guys I just looked up ACAB and learned that it does not, as I had thought, mean "assigned cop at birth"

lol

the closest protests to me that I know of were the west side highway ones, but those were further south than I am now (plus I'm too zonked out on ativan right now to do anything but sleep)

Wish I were zonked out on Ativan. Sleep well.

dying @ assigned cop at birth

(you really don't, it's prescribed but I almost never take it because all it really does is nuke a day out of existence, when arguably the "right" thing to do would be to not nuke a day out of existence here)

xp like two-thirds of my friends have made the assigned cop at birth joke

(I had an Ativan 0.5mg prn Rx for a while, which barely did anything but it did enough.)

probably not the best hijack of this thread though

White Cops On Ativan

George Floyd's family is leading a peaceful rally & march tomorrow afternoon in Houston.

What
The
Fuck

Even more proof that the cops are not helping the situation. I got this video from someone on Twitter pic.twitter.com/5SNgnnzNfx

— Cassie (@Cass_is_boring) June 2, 2020

i don't understand what's happening in that video

the people taking it think they are seeing cops unloading bricks and they don't know why

The people shooting the video can be heard saying that they think the bricks are for undercover cops, who can go among the protesters and throw them, to justify arrests. But based on that video alone it's impossible to say what the bricks are for, or even if the two guys are cops. They have some kind of symbols in their shirt shoulders that might indicate police, but the video is shot from too far to see any details.