no rocket no cred
― i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 14:13 (four years ago) link
sauce being underappreciated. there shouldn't be too much so that cheese slides, and gives some acid to counterbalance other non-acidic ingredients
― medicate for all (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 14:39 (four years ago) link
imago, your toasted bread with toppings sounds delicious, but it ain't no kind of pizza.
As others have well-noted, pizza is a gestalt. If any of these elements are out of whack, you have a bad pizza. However, crust is literally foundational.
― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link
Real heads know the answer is sauce.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link
The answer is "toppings", you need to have the right balance of sweetcorn to cheese or it isn't real pizza or whatever
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:27 (four years ago) link
indeed, the sweetcorn:pineapple:prawn ratio has to be just right to balance out the essential textures and flavours
― imago, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link
A pizza is a unified whole.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r),
pizza is a flat circle. everything we have done or will do we will do over and over and over again- forever.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link
A good pizza is basically like a casserole where the crust replaces the dish or whatever
Like slow-braised beef and carrot on a pizza, is like delicious to me? That's what I think is good
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link
lol, i came to the pizza thread to consider the merits of sauce vs cheese vs crust. i came away thinking of a carrot sticking out of a hunk of beef on a casserole sitting on a crusty plate
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link
i don't agree with your pizza decisions but i respect the innovation!
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link
Is pizza a hot dog?
― Fun-Loving and Furry-Curious! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link
respect to imago playing the very long game
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link
a good hot dog is basically a delicious thin slice of pizza, so yes
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link
wait is that true
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link
it has always been true - take a solidly constructed thin slice of pizza, fold it in half, add a few toppings in the middle and you've got yourself a delicious hot dog
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:57 (four years ago) link
(add the optional accordion fold if you need a hot dog glider)
https://i.imgur.com/3k9dDat.jpg
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:28 (four years ago) link
The New York City water, baby!
― maffew12, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:31 (four years ago) link
Interesting. Put some doubanjiang on it, little bit of "tianjin preserved vegetable", you might have something approaching edible
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:31 (four years ago) link
voted cheese because I'm a monster but this is a silly question
― silby, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:35 (four years ago) link
A good pizza needs no toppings, get real.
― Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link
confused about this 'crust' thing. that's the bit most people throw away
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link
Ch...chicken Kiev, on a pizza
But you have to like, boil the Kiev in the sauce, which as we've established must be made with a base of doubanjiang and not tomato, and then spoon it into the crust
I am wading into the ocean as I type this
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
hahaha
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
This is a disgusting thread
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link
start with Tianjin-preserved vegetable, boil the Kiev, then top with NYC water. fold in half, tear crust-flaps, and fly
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link
Why is there so much ontological confusion about crust? Crust = the entire doughy portion, not just the puffy end bits.
― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link
^i agree with that, but i also think there should be a separate name for the part at the end (which my family also calls "crust")
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link
Put a bad sauce on a good crust and you've ruined a good crust. Put a good sauce on a bad crust and you've improved a bad crust. For me, this describes the essence of their relationship.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link
xp Big crust.
― Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link
I got some pizzas last week at an ILX-disapproved chain. I was the first customer of the day and the oven apparently wasn't fully preheated -- that underdone crust was fucking disgusting.
― herds of unmasked cletuses (WmC), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link
bloody crusties
― calzino, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link
write-in for "the pineapple"
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link
Pizza (Italian: [ˈpittsa], Neapolitan: [ˈpittsə]) is a savory dish of Italian origin, consisting of a sour, boiled paste mixed with breadcrumbs,
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link
no, sorry, the Base and the crust are two different things
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link
cheese and crust and sauce = pizza
cheese and crust without sauce = cheesy breadsauce and cheese without crust = cheesy dipping saucecrust and sauce without cheese = vegan pizza, square one
cheese without sauce and crust = cheesesauce without cheese and crust = saucecrust without cheese and sauce = crust
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so basically cheese, because as long as you have the cheese you know you're going to be fine
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
your pizzas got no middle
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link
just a ring of crust with sauce and cheese piled in the middle, no base
I think my favorite part of pizza is the cum
― lumen (esby), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link
eat it while it's hot, otherwise it gets crusty imo
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:57 (four years ago) link
i'll just show myself the door
^i agree with that, but i also think there should be a separate name for the part at the end (which my family also calls "crust")― Karl Malone, Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:48 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:48 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
a kid's book I remember reading many years ago had a character that called these "pizza bones" which has stuck with me as being v accurate and useful
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link
are we just going to call the entire base the 'crust' then
I'm just staring at this in awe, bravo
― (so serious) (DJP), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:37 (four years ago) link
I don't like your peachesThey are full of stonesBut I like pizzasBecause they have no bones
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:37 (four years ago) link
https://www.easier.com/uploads/cache/thumbs/0/3/2/074/400x400/15271/findus-french-bread-pizza.jpg
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
It's the blend, the balance, or the irresistible alchemy of the parts coalescing, what sorcery is this etc, Sund4r otm
― Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, May 27, 2020 12:55 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Ever dip cheese and crust without sauce into sauce and cheese without crust while you wait for the cheese and crust and sauce to come out?
― Evan, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/190322-pizza-rustica-vertical-1553721278.png?crop=1.00xw:0.668xh;0,0.142xh&resize=980:*
whats the difference between pizza rustica and quiche eh?
― calzino, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:57 (four years ago) link
oh man, that sounds amazing! i could imagine enjoying that at a table without hard corners on a day without a cloud
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link
crust or gtfo
― inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link
I look forward to the cheese most, but I think that that is because most pizza crusts are good but not great and I love cheese.
I have only had a few experiences where the crust is perfect, but those have been memorable
― Dan S, Saturday, 13 June 2020 00:49 (four years ago) link
I think a couple of those experiences were with wood fired pizza
― Dan S, Saturday, 13 June 2020 00:53 (four years ago) link
ILX PIZZA ORDER
hi System, plz order me three cheese pizza, largetake the pizza back if they use the word "base"-Neanderthal
― Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 June 2020 00:55 (four years ago) link
I make pizza crust from scratch, while my housemate uses Trader Joe frozen pizza crusts. And yet his pizza is consistently better than mine, because he knows the secret of making really delicious pizza sauce. So I voted for sauce.
― Lily Dale, Saturday, 13 June 2020 01:06 (four years ago) link
god it's all so important
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 June 2020 01:12 (four years ago) link
beautiful balancing act, pizza
I suppose the most important component is really the spirit in which it is offered
Underrated insight
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Saturday, 13 June 2020 01:27 (four years ago) link
Speaking of all crust pizza, there was a pizza place in Boston I used to go to that served rolls made from their pizza dough, and they were damn good.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 13 June 2020 01:45 (four years ago) link
See also “garlic knots” and “breadsticks”
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Saturday, 13 June 2020 01:46 (four years ago) link
thought you meant actual “pizza rolls” for a second there, I was like wow
― brimstead, Saturday, 13 June 2020 01:47 (four years ago) link
a pizza dough roll is hard to imagine. what do you all think of cornmeal crusts?
― Dan S, Saturday, 13 June 2020 01:50 (four years ago) link
Vicolo Pizza was my first experience with cornmeal crust in the late 80s/90s. They are long closed now but I think their idea of a crust made of wheat flour, corn meal and soybean oil was really good
― Dan S, Saturday, 13 June 2020 02:01 (four years ago) link
recently discovered a local pizza mini chain that makes it with
1. medium thickness crust/base, like a slightly upscale version of a corner place slice; not flimsy but not like eating a loaf of bread2. slightly fancy toppings, many of them spicy3. an uncooked tomato sauce base with a lovely sweetness (they have alfredo pizzas as well but have yet to try)
and I may never go back in any of these respects
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Sunday, 14 June 2020 07:14 (four years ago) link
As much as I love alfredo and all other non-tomato-based pasta sauces, I have never taken the plunge on a slice of pizza with anything other than the red.
― Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 14 June 2020 14:25 (four years ago) link
Carbonara may be my favorite dish ever, but I'd never get a pizza version of it.
what do you all think of cornmeal crusts?
i'm a fan of putting some cornmeal in dough. adds a nice texture so long as not too much is added and yeast is rendered useless. like up to 20% by volume i guess, but probably more like 10-15%
― medicate for all (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 14 June 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link
I saw a place list "aioli base sauce" which seems terrigying
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Sunday, 14 June 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link
mmm white sauce pizza (olive oil, garlic, spices) with a spinach/marinated red onion/prosciutto top is an all time favorite
― sleeve, Sunday, 14 June 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link
Kinda reminds me of this clam pie a buddy made once that I still plan on recreating.
― medicate for all (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 14 June 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link
Frutti di mare
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 14 June 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link
have had frutti di mare as pasta but never as pizza
― Dan S, Monday, 15 June 2020 01:17 (three years ago) link
Seemed pretty common on pizza in Naples and Sicily
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 15 June 2020 01:36 (three years ago) link
Glad to see this poll has the correct answer
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 19 January 2024 18:22 (four months ago) link