Remember Brexit? You love to see it.
Incredible admission by leadingTory Brexiteer Steve Baker. They were told to vote for WA without reading it “on the basis Michael Gove articulated: we could change it later”.So they voted for it. And now discover there will be an border in the Irish Sea. pic.twitter.com/RoqfWGgvLM— Jennifer Rankin (@JenniferMerode) May 24, 2020
― gyac, Sunday, 24 May 2020 09:30 (four years ago) link
(xp) He's done well for himself, this working class lad from a council estate in Shields, er.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 May 2020 09:32 (four years ago) link
I'm not actually paranoid enough to think this is the point, but I do wonder whether the story on the rightmost two columns of that front page would be bigger without this story.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 24 May 2020 bookmarkflaglink
Given that covid will run on till the rest of the year, at least, I don't see how that could be the case.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 May 2020 09:38 (four years ago) link
murdoch wants gove as pm and recognises a weakness
― mark s, Sunday, 24 May 2020 09:44 (four years ago) link
yeah the bookshelf is what finally convinced Murds
― nashwan, Sunday, 24 May 2020 09:51 (four years ago) link
anybody rooting for Domfall and the subsequent resignation of Johnson shd be thinking hard about a Gove presidency tbh
― come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 May 2020 09:59 (four years ago) link
I only just noticed last night that villainous cunt Norman Stone was an early mentor/supporter of Cummings, quelle surprise. There is someone whose relatively recent gravestone will already have a piss-bleached stripe down it, such was the love he brought to this world.
― calzino, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:01 (four years ago) link
Despite everything the Boris brand is still pretty strong and the idea that Gove could command the same level of support from across the country feels borderline delusional.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:05 (four years ago) link
don't need the support of the country when you're locked in for 5 years, and when has the support of the country ever influenced an internal Tory rumble?
― come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:08 (four years ago) link
Someone was recounting to me a recent FB discussion they foolishly participated in with a bunch of late middle-aged Gentle Brexiters. Apparently 'Boris' is doing a fantastic job, and oh can you imagine how it would have been with That Bloody Corbyn in charge? Let good old Boris get on with it, etc etc. I'd imagine people like this neither know nor care about Dominic Cummings, probably haven't heard of him. And this is the electorate, as Cummings et al well know, so beyond the Westminster/Twitter bubbles there's probably enough support for Johnson to keep him in the ascendancy for years. Gove, less so. Happy to be proved wrong on this though.
― while the city bleeps (Matt #2), Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:15 (four years ago) link
oh i think they'll tough this out, but it's fun to remember that things could potentially be even worse
― Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:17 (four years ago) link
Regardless of the rules though, Prime Ministers without an election victory under their belts struggle to establish legitimacy in the eyes of the public. I think this is academic given that they aren't going to be ousting Johnson any time soon, but while Gove could in theory just sit there for five years he could spend that time getting more and more reviled as the country goes through a series of awful crises. At the very least, Boris is a proven election winner whereas there's no evidence that anyone other than sycophantic Times columnists is particularly impressed by Gove.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:19 (four years ago) link
Cummings has flatly denied going back to Durham in April so he’s either lying and getting ministers to repeat that lie or the Observer and Mirror have opened a massive hole for him to wriggle through.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:31 (four years ago) link
doing some ah yes Barnard Castle isn't Durham bullshit is semantics stuff is exactly the sort of thing his opponents tried and failed to do to him over Brexit. You love to see it
― stet, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:32 (four years ago) link
Less damaging to be in Durham and go to Barnard Castle, before going to London than being in Durham, going to Barnard Castle, going back to London and then going back to Durham, which is what the Observer and Mirror seem to be accusing him of.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:37 (four years ago) link
I'm losing track of the timeline, but the defence yesterday was that he obeyed the rules by staying at home, in Durham. The trip to Barney blows that one up. If he provably returned on April 19th as is now being suggested then it's basic he's-lying time.
― stet, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:42 (four years ago) link
Yep, absolutely.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:44 (four years ago) link
If only he knew some data scientists who could prove his argument beyond reasonable doubt.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:44 (four years ago) link
tbh I was thinking last night that they better have more evidence than some geezer saying he thought he saw someone who look a bit like Dominic Cummings or else this is going to blow in their (and our) faces.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:44 (four years ago) link
It's a helpful thing that No 10 called the one gang with access to Durham ANPR and CCTV liars
― stet, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:46 (four years ago) link
I think this is a job for Sir Forensic.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:48 (four years ago) link
Doesn’t the old guy have his number plate too on the day in question?
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:48 (four years ago) link
That story set off a few alarm bells tbh. He thought he saw Dominic Cummings, so he took a note of part of his car registration, then somehow googled Cummings' actual car registration and that's how he knows it was Cummings?
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:51 (four years ago) link
Yeah, can see how a forensic lawyer would drive a coach and horses through that.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:54 (four years ago) link
Cummings into No10— Rob Powell (@robpowellnews) May 24, 2020
― gyac, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:54 (four years ago) link
hes president for life now
― mark s, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:55 (four years ago) link
That story set off a few alarm bells tbh. He thought he saw Dominic Cummings, so he took a note of /part/ of his car registration, then somehow googled Cummings' actual car registration and that's how he knows it was Cummings?
― gyac, Sunday, 24 May 2020 10:56 (four years ago) link
Boris's brand isn't going to take much of a hit from this. Cummings is pretty much a safety valve, don't know if they'll ditch him or not, it can be useful to have someone to take the hits.
They also have a big majority, can't see any of this being relevant whatsoever any time soon - there'll very likely be a leadership challenge and they'll dump him but not this year or next
― anvil, Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:05 (four years ago) link
They've got no-one who could beat Johnson in a popularity contest. More likely Johnson is eventually forced to resign himself but he's also their greasiest pig.
― nashwan, Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:20 (four years ago) link
also he's been dead for a month
― mark s, Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:22 (four years ago) link
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-05-24/dominic-cummings-departure-only-matter-of-time-robert-peston/
Not sure Bobby P would be sticking his neck out with this one if there wasn't a significant chance of him going.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:25 (four years ago) link
And there is a second ticking time bomb, say ministers. They fear a member of the public may file a complaint to Durham police alleging Cummings broke the Health Protection Regulations - which the police would be obliged to investigate.
lol!
― calzino, Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:29 (four years ago) link
today’s had it all but my highlight has been dominic cummings leaving his house with a finding nemo ball, a film all about a stupid cunt who endangers his family, friends and neighbours by breaking simple rules and travelling long distances not once but twice pic.twitter.com/dAmXr4ur6e— harry moore (@Harry_Moore_) May 23, 2020
― BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:31 (four years ago) link
What is the procedure for filing a complaint to the police? Asking for a friend.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:35 (four years ago) link
I would be amazed if they hadn't had hundreds of complaints already.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:36 (four years ago) link
The idea of shopping somebody to the police is of course repualsive but these are the cunts who set the police loose on people sitting mind their own business on park benches etc.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:37 (four years ago) link
They've got no-one who could beat Johnson in a popularity contest
Not right now, makes no sense to shift him. 2023 may be a different story but its fantasy to think anyone is going to make any kind of move this year
― anvil, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:01 (four years ago) link
grant shapps is developing quite the lockdown bouffant
― a denim head and an aficionado of Japanese craftsmanship (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:08 (four years ago) link
i resent that reading of Finding Nemo tbh
― Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:09 (four years ago) link
if you've got to slander a pre-teen fish just to make your lame comedy point then fuck you
― Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:10 (four years ago) link
nah everyone's a cunt, cunt cunt cunt
― imago, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:13 (four years ago) link
it's quite amusing to see Kinnock trending again and becoming an unwilling pawn in a culture war where nobody actually gives a shit about him!
― calzino, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:16 (four years ago) link
reluctantly flagged imago for calling Nemo a cunt
― Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:18 (four years ago) link
gentlemen you can’t clown fish in here this is the finding nemo discussion
― What fash heil is this? (wins), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:20 (four years ago) link
nemo got into trouble for touching a butt, probably quite relatable to most politicians
― calzino, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:23 (four years ago) link
butt fish (2019)
― imago, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:23 (four years ago) link
anyway clearly the correct analogy for Dom is Dory since he doesn't remember where he's been
― Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:32 (four years ago) link
Dora the unexplorer
― calzino, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:33 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:36 (four years ago) link
If you were all looking for a bit of light relief Larry Elliott has written about the potential for a property crash.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:43 (four years ago) link