for a lot of reasons (the cultural imperialism of middle class white people, snobbery, the fetishization of "national cuisines") food writing often can't help but expressing simple likes and dislikes about particular foodstuffs in ways that suggest the writer's racism. there's a bit in 'simple French cooking' where Richard olney dismisses coriander, which he dislikes the taste of while noting that in any case it's only used in *Arabic* cooking. I always think of the olney example but possibly I'm at least partly projecting as he reminds me so much of (more than one) gay Islamophobic American's I know who live in the South of France.
― plax (ico), Friday, 22 May 2020 17:46 (six years ago)
from what I understand of the shallot thing I realise this is only tangentially relevant
― plax (ico), Friday, 22 May 2020 17:47 (six years ago)
i just made a dip from olive oil, balsamic, salt and in a final flourish of improvisatory inspiration coriander, and now i feel like the wokest poster on ilx
― imago, Friday, 22 May 2020 17:54 (six years ago)
'just' = an hour ago, before that was posted. i ate it with rice cakes. saint imago
holy holy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLupxEDGqxY
― Mordy, Friday, 22 May 2020 17:56 (six years ago)
you can hear them jingling their little vials of coriander
― imago, Friday, 22 May 2020 17:59 (six years ago)
catholic cuisine tastes
― Mordy, Friday, 22 May 2020 17:59 (six years ago)
srsly if u conflate those neophyte vatican scum with the old faith again i will call u an ashkenazi
― imago, Friday, 22 May 2020 18:01 (six years ago)
re people thinking hating onions makes you a terrible person I think there's a little spoken of 'if I had that person over for dinner effect' whereby when people express food preferences at odds with how one eats and prepares food it is very easy to imagine how annoying it might be to have that person over for dinner and not know what to cook. this is despite the fact that nobody ever has anyone over for dinner and when they do they never know what to cook anyway.
― plax (ico), Friday, May 22, 2020 1:39 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah, I do worry about this very often -- in practice it's been less of an issue than you'd think (one time it was carbonara, another stir-fry just with different veg, etc.)
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:02 (six years ago)
that’s a good point. as a vegan I am very familiar with that kind of anxiety!
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:04 (six years ago)
Whoa there, pardner
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:05 (six years ago)
I'm not at all surprised this isn't that much of an issue. I can imagine it's harder when eating out but I don't know how deep your dislike goes, like I hate hate hate eggs but for some reason egg fried rice is fine (my mother who also has eggs is repulsed by egg fried rice)
― plax (ico), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:05 (six years ago)
xp to Katherine
I also hate mushrooms
― plax (ico), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:06 (six years ago)
and freedom
it is much, much harder when eating out, and all I can do is just not think about it unless it's impossible (a few years ago I'd ordered fried mushrooms that were very obviously coated in a huge amount of onion powder, and it took me like 10 minutes in the bathroom washing my mouth out and eating a couple tangerines I was lucky enough to have taken home from work to stop being nauseated
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:12 (six years ago)
do you hate other aliums like garlic or spring onions or is it only onions
― plax (ico), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:19 (six years ago)
also I would have thought Japanese food is your friend here
I could literally eat sushi for every meal if I was allowed
― plax (ico), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:20 (six years ago)
srsly if u conflate those neophyte vatican scum with the old faith again
cool those Cypriot fires a moment, imago. the word catholic has broader meanings than just the faith defined by the papal succession.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:22 (six years ago)
" I don't know what to think, and generally speaking, in situations that are framed as (quoting the Onion) "this decision will harm people"
One needn't take on the burden themself of ensuring that no one anywhere is ever harmed. Again, there's a happy medium between an inconsiderate jerk and perpetually fretting over whether your every single thought and action is harming people in any way.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:22 (six years ago)
also isn't there like a while Ayurvedic thing about onions, I feel like hare Krishna food has no onions for this reason, not that I really know what Ayurvedic actually means
― plax (ico), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:23 (six years ago)
garlic is fine, spring onions/scallions/leeks/chives are not
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:25 (six years ago)
― imago, Friday, May 22, 2020 11:01 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
splitters!
― COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:26 (six years ago)
― plax (ico), Friday, May 22, 2020 11:23 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
some buddhists don't eat alliums because they inflame the passions, get the blood flowing type thing. antithetical to divesting yourself of desire. there is also the fact that they have to be uprooted, destroying the plant, to be consumed (I might be wrong here, probably), rather than picked from a plant which keeps on living like a tomato or what have you.
― COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:28 (six years ago)
Jains do not eat onions or any other root vegetable bc you have to uproot and kill the plant to get them
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:29 (six years ago)
xpyes, I've been wondering if I should point out that among some religious South Asians, onions and garlic are forbidden
― dip to dup (rob), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:29 (six years ago)
afaik, it's for the reason that jim mentioned
crut is also right about Jains specifically. geez these are incompetent posts, sorry
― dip to dup (rob), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:30 (six years ago)
(quoting the Onion)well played
― What fash heil is this? (wins), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:30 (six years ago)
Didn’t the queen prohibit onions and garlic on the QE2 for years because plebe food?
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:34 (six years ago)
no she just had mad farts
― come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:36 (six years ago)
And yet she allowed leeks, although it is an oceangoing ship and leeks pose a danger of sinking. curious.
― I bless Claude Rains down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:45 (six years ago)
Are You a Cut Up on Social Media?
― dip to dup (rob), Friday, 22 May 2020 19:21 (six years ago)
Voting something between no and very no
― jmm, Friday, 22 May 2020 19:29 (six years ago)
anyway sorry if I upset anyone
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 22 May 2020 20:36 (six years ago)
I'm upset that you're apologizing ;)
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 22 May 2020 20:55 (six years ago)
Exactly, no-one is upset.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Friday, 22 May 2020 20:57 (six years ago)
Well somebody might be but they shouldn't be.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Friday, 22 May 2020 20:58 (six years ago)
Rather than an apology, it would be better to hear that you have reevaluated your approach to dealing with online strife.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 22 May 2020 21:01 (six years ago)
Yeah, ^this. No pressure, though :)
― Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 May 2020 21:07 (six years ago)
I would like to tell you my own story of improving my ability to deal with such strife, but I am afraid that if I did so my contrary nature would immediately cause me to get into a few intranetz beefs pronto.
― Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 May 2020 21:09 (six years ago)
I think most of us are just confused by why you place so much value on what these people on Twitter (or Facebook or wherever) think about minor issues.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 22 May 2020 21:09 (six years ago)
apparently I made this at some point pic.twitter.com/xrrWeZRUQ7— Jerry Choke (@jerrychoke) May 22, 2020
well to be fair the assault on the dignity of the person is constant and fought on all fronts simultaneously
― j., Friday, 22 May 2020 21:47 (six years ago)
Small pantry humiliation porn
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 22 May 2020 21:49 (six years ago)
:) sesame oil in cooking is great though, sorry to add to the off-topic discussion of food items here but I recommend buying it in small quantities and keeping it in the refrigerator, because it goes off pretty quickly otherwise
― Dan S, Friday, 22 May 2020 23:09 (six years ago)
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:01 (six years ago)
*bump*
― Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:28 (six years ago)
I ended up voting 'no' after discounting ilxor.com.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:31 (six years ago)
Did I miss anything?
(Kidding--I never have a problem with threads taking unexpected turns. I've sent them off in that direction many times myself.)
― clemenza, Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:34 (six years ago)