Are You Cut Out for Social Media?

No one actually thinks you're a baby for not eating onions or sardines or whatever

but then why are they saying this

Like, sure, there is too much awfulness in the world for anyone to be completely fair-minded about what they devote their energy to. But if someone is lecturing people for days about Alison Roman in May 2020 I don't think you have any reason to view them as a voice of moral authority.

xp because they're idiots! or assholes! who cares why they are saying something that you don't have to listen to

"someone dissed me yesterday, what I'posed to do? Go cry?"

-Gucci Mane

Because they’re talking shit (or they’re assholes/idiots). That’s not even a Twitter thing, trash talking seems to be universally human.

"yet are deemed to be morally wrong with no wiggle room, and to always have been morally wrong, and morally wrong enough that anyone who likes/dislikes/does/doesn't do the proper thing is fair game to mock en masses".

Who fucking cares! Girl, you've got to stop giving so much of a fuck. You seem to think that there's no happy medium between perpetually being hyper sensitive about what every single person on the planet thinks of oneself and being a sociopath.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Geneshalit.JPG/220px-Geneshalit.JPG

Mean-spirited statements tend to attract attention and some people like to bask in it at any cost (see: the internet). It's safe to say they don't deserve our time.

No child who I sniped in Call of Duty ever fucked my mom but many claimed to.

one kid told me to leave his team cos I sucked, and I told him I was gonna fuck his mom

I might have, i don't remember

but then why are they saying this

I wish I understood your vulnerability to each and every thing that is said within range of your notice, and your apparent lack of filters that might allow you to ignore any part of it, but I do not. However, in light of that apparent vulnerability, I can say that the crashing hubbub of social media is definitely a place that will bruise your sensibilities constantly and relentlessly, and given how little sense you seem to make out of that input, I would expect you will never find any peace in your engagement with social media.

You alone can decide if this observation has any validity. All I can do is read what you write, compare that to whatever I think I know about people and the internet, and draw my imperfect and tentative conclusions to share with you. Good luck.

I thought Alison Roman was a dick to Chrissy Teigen, but I also just put some Great Northern beans in an online shopping cart so I could make a soup recipe of hers that a friend recommended. Possibly the Roman-Teigen dust-up would make me reluctant to tweet favorably about the recipe (if I were the kind of person who tweeted about cooking), because I wouldn't want to invite any negative reactions while tempers are still flared. But I don't have any compunction about making it, because the controversy doesn't really seem important enough to dictate how I go about my life at home, much less how I feel about myself.

no, this is the kind of thing I think about virtually every hour of every day

I say this out of love and concern: this isn't healthy. You should seek counseling on this.

so if someone says you're being racist, you find it an acceptable answer to say "lol you don't matter"?

well not when i'm being racist, but i thought we were talking about the shallot people

that is the connotation of it, yes

If someone says I'm racist because I cooked a dish with shallots in it written by a woman who (dumbly) criticized two women of color for selling out by slapping their names on products, I am going to ignore that person forever.

which side is the racist side again? the ones who like the shallots or the ones who don't?

If I cooked that dish with shallots in it as a show of solidarity with a suspended writer who dumbly criticized two women of color for selling out by slapping their names on products, I'm also a dumbo.

I hadn’t been reading this thread but now I see that something has happened to it

so it's not about the shallots at all? the shallots are just a prop in a drama?

But I think a lot of the confusion is whether we're talking about shallots or Alison Roman - the tweet you linked earlier was about the ingredients themselves and didn't appear to have any moral component, the Alison Roman thing is about two teams of people arguing about whether one team is woke enough.

oh i get it we're talking about the olympics

the logical thread is:

- I only learned as of earlier this evening the act of making a certain shallot pasta recipe makes you a bad person because it means supporting someone bad, but also it is wrong to say that it is wrong to make the pasta recipe. both sides are adamant in this, with no wiggle room. the reason this is because I find a lot of my recipes by googling ingredients and thus literally have no idea who they are associated with, so I don't know what other recipes are and aren't acceptable. (one data point :an article around this implied that everything bon appetit puts out is suspect, which I feel shitty about, since I made something they published tonight.)

- in this particular case I dodged a bullet because I dislike shallots, and thus there was no risk of my making the pasta even if I was team hell yeah do all the racism

- however, it is hard to call that "dodging a bullet" when disliking shallots, itself, is another act that has been previously construed -- many times, usually via mocking someone who doesn't like them -- as something that makes you a bad person. in other words, I only passed the test by failing another.

- these are just examples, everyone is fixating on these examples but on another day I could give you another example of a thing that makes one a bad person, in a way that isn't necessarily predictable beforehand; and then on another day entirely I could give you the discourse agreeing that doing the opposite makes you a bad person. (baking bread in a pandemic is a good example -- first it was wrong to do it because it wastes yeast others need, and then someone on medium published an article saying essentially that, and she was mocked relentlessly for suggesting it was wrong to waste yeast others need)

sorry, editing mistake, the first point should be "the reason I feel stuck is because I find..."

it's not logical at all!

there is no reason to listen to these voices!

I don't see how shallots can be shamed into voting for Biden, surely there has to be a better approach

some kind of tax credit maybe

yes, that (who to vote for, should you vote, etc.) is another excellent example of a case where there is no acceptable option presented, and the stakes should be much easier to grasp in that example

easy, just vote for the democrat, next

In no way does making these recipes or having an opinion pro or con about a mundane ingredient make you a bad person or a racist. You seem to have somehow waded into the middle of a debate that has nothing to do with just picking out recipes and cooking them.

If someone wants to make the point that famous white cooks or influencers who cook food from other cultures should do more to acknowledge those cultures, that's fine, they probably should! But it's completely stupid to yell at anyone just because they are trying to cook themselves some food they like regardless of what ingredients they do or not use. Don't take it to heart, people get angry about a lot of tangential stuff that really has nothing to do with the actual issues they are grappling with.

xp -- by no means is "just vote for the democrat" an uncontroversial stance

I only learned as of earlier this evening the act of making a certain shallot pasta recipe makes you a bad person because it means supporting someone bad,

I think this dilemma solves itself right here - you didn't know about it until you ran across a cesspool on Twitter accidentally, ergo had you made the dish at any point you would not have acted with ill intent and all those people accusing each other (and by extension, you) of terrible things can go fly a kite.

If you have a Paula Deen cookbook that doesn't make you a racist, it makes you someone at higher risk of getting diabetes. If you bought all of Paula Deen's cookbooks because she's a racist, then you're a racist - but short of that, you're in the clear.

that shallot pasta recipe is tasty

the shallot sauce is really versatile too. I make a full jar and keep some aside to add into scrambled eggs

- these are just examples, everyone is fixating on these examples but on another day I could give you another example of a thing that makes one a bad person, in a way that isn't necessarily predictable beforehand; and then on another day entirely I could give you the discourse agreeing that doing the opposite makes you a bad person.

delete twitter imo

yes, that is a frequent thing told to people who have been identified as bad people/"the main character of the day"/etc

But - who to vote for is theoretically important! Like, it's easier for some people than others, but it is making a decision to endorse a person who will almost certainly be responsible for some terrible actions, and who might also prevent suffering for many others. That is a genuine moral dilemma that's worth thinking about. The pasta recipe is not important at all! Whether or not someone makes a recipe impacts no one but themselves and whoever eats the pasta, unless the cooking is accompanied by some rabid anti-SJW ranting, which is not anything you're going to do. Random Twitter flare-ups do not necessitate a new set of rules to follow, and they do not deserve to compete for space in your brain with genuine questions of morality and ethics. No one will remember this shallot shit by July.

I meant the whole thing, but sure people should delete their individual accounts also as a first step. spent far too much time on it during 2015-2019 following the_discourse and learned that all of the main characters and feted voices in blighty's Benighted National Conversation are mostly talking pish and awful basturts to boot. you won't find your moral center on twitter - far too much noise, not enough (any?) signal

no one will remember this shallot shit by friday next week

zero signal

I dunno about that, moral center of Twitter is easy to find - https://twitter.com/BassetMortimer

"so if someone says you're being racist, you find it an acceptable answer to say "lol you don't matter"?"

Depending on the person and the context, absofuckinglutely

this thread reminds me that for some reason i can never remember what a "shallot" is

Real life example: I run an open gym,for basketball. 2 native Americans came one night, male and female. The guy was being a jerk to me, for no reason (well actually turns out he was intimidated by my skills and was trying to "get in my head". We're friends now). The woman saw me and the guy squabbling and so she started playing dirty: shoved me, elbowed me, etc. I told her if she didn't stop, she had to leave. She got in my face, yelling. I said stop being stupid, your guy being a jerk to me is no reason for you to physically assault me. "Oh you're calling us both stupid?? You fucking racist!!" To which I replied yep you got me, I'm racist.
She was being ridiculous and acting out of emotions (the guy was her husband). I knew I wasn't being racist and so dismissed her accusation.

You go away for a while and you come back and everything is 0_o

it's good pasta tom

sorry

No need to apologize.