Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

ahem

AIDS

yep

Ego would not spare him

But that was from inaction, not action. We must get our ethical yardsticks better coordinated. And Ted Williams was the best hitter ever, amirite?

It is true that GOP presidents are better at killing their fellow citizens while Dems prefer vaporizing foreigners with drones.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, May 19, 2020 3:06 PM (fourteen minutes ago)

Trump truly is a uniter: https://theintercept.com/2020/04/22/coronavirus-somalia-airstrikes/

Since the beginning of the year, AFRICOM has announced 39 airstrikes in Somalia. The command announced a total of 36 such attacks from 2009 to 2017, under Obama, peaking in 2016 with 19 declared airstrikes. Last year, under President Donald Trump, the U.S. conducted 63 air attacks in Somalia, the most ever in a single year.

So, then, we're agreed that Reagan was really a very decent president

I’m comfortable saying Dubya was a worse President than Reagan. If you think saying that is a defense of Reagan, you are inconceivably dumb.

I'm against rehabbing W too, but give this a read and you have to recognize that Trump is also making a play for the genocide leagues (Iran sanctions + Covid, for instance): https://theintercept.com/2020/05/12/second-trump-term-war-climate-change/

OTOH while serving as president Washington shuffled his slaves between Philadelphia and Virginia every six months to avoid having to obey PA law requiring him to free them, so like milo I always find the Worst Ever convo weird and inevitably tainted with American mythicism

Worst U.S. Presidents

honestly might be worth repolling with the full 45 options

All bad.

Instead of worst, where mere ineffectiveness can get a vote, poll most evil

Hold up tho what is “evil”

That’s between each voter and their gods.

If you want it to be body count, vote body count. If you’re divining into a man’s soul to see if he loved his children, vote that.

All bad.

"There's no such thing as a bad boy." -- Father Flannigan

"That little boy grew up to be President of the United States. And that's the rest of the story." -- Paul Harvey

The funny thing about the turn this thread has taken today is that Alfred brought up the LGM blog post (about the Klein article) by saying "Lemieux hated it too." But no one else was talking about the Klein article; in the previous post, xyzzzz__ had linked to an Osita Nwanevu review of Klein's *book*.

Yeah. My mistake -- it struck me as strange that Klein would come up twice in two of my frequented sites.

I am a Klein fan and liked the book, but Nwanevu's critique is worthwhile.

honestly might be worth repolling with the full 45 options

44, right? (Cleveland is usually counted twice)

Trump seems quite a bit worse than Reagan to me. Yes Reagan put a lot of things in place that were detrimental to the future of the US, but there were ample chances to fix it after him (not that anyone did). IMO there are not a lot of ample chances to fix what Trump has done because he's hastening the anthropocene with his actions. So I dunno who is worse, the person who starts a fire or the one who throws accelerant onto it.

or billy joel

Reagan gets an extra strike for creating the political landscape that gave us Bush 1 & 2, Trump, Dick Cheney, Mitch McConnell, etc

Yup. That's where the brain rot set in.

The descendants of the millionaires who funded the John Birch Society should be punished for the sins of their forefathers.

44, right? (Cleveland is usually counted twice)

― no new snail to snell (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, May 19, 2020 4:56 PM (one hour ago)

ah right, let's just say the 45th option is the silby one

#46, all glorious saints

Trump has provided the vacuum Reaganism needed to succeed, w/ Roy Cohn the common link

(plus the void that is the Democratic Party)

Did the Politico investigation of Tara Reade get posted here yet?

It is true that GOP presidents are better at killing their fellow citizens while Dems prefer vaporizing foreigners with drones.

"Death to America, obviously."

gottem

Joe Biden finally makes up nickname for Trump: 'President Tweety' https://t.co/2tjuqdZmeK pic.twitter.com/1kfrXX3Js6

— New York Post (@nypost) May 19, 2020

boe jiden

DJT closer to Sylvester

So we all agree that conquest is #4 and war is #1 but i've yet to hear a compelling case that plague should be #2 over famine; can someone please start a poll?

just want to check in and see if biden is still running to the right of trump on china

"Some wacko in China just released a statement blaming everybody other than China for the Virus which has now killed hundreds of thousands of people. Please explain to this dope that it was the “incompetence of China”, and nothing else, that did this mass Worldwide killing!" - dipshit, this morning

So we all agree that conquest is #4 and war is #1 but i've yet to hear a compelling case that plague should be #2 over famine; can someone please start a poll?

Twitter is #6

Then God is #7, then God is #7

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/joe-biden-tara-reade-allegations/
you're gonna be hard pressed to get past the first sentence here

lol no kidding

is this DURING his presidency or

Q poll has Biden up by 28pts with women, 10pts with voters over age 65.

— Conor Sen (@conorsen) May 20, 2020

Q is doing polling now?

wheels within wheels, dude

don't worry, they keep everything anonymous

worth mentioning that in 2016 at this time in May, Q was showing Clinton up on Trump by only +2 overall. Biden's up +11 (50-39) now

Speaking of Q:

Believer in QAnon conspiracy theory wins Republican Senate nomination in Oregon

the Prime Minister of Australia has a personal Q adviser whose wife is paid something like $120k pa out of taxpayer funds to talk to the PM's wife.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYfotgrXYAQ3uMc?format=jpg&name=medium

I have no love for the BDS movement but for fuck’s sake!

i just came here to see if that had been posted. wowwwwww

You're not going to get a president who will embrace the Palestinian cause until a much bigger chunk of the electorate embraces the Palestinian cause.Nothing to be happy about there, but happiness in politics doesn't fall from the sky like manna. Biden is just a mirror of the country at large in that statement.

It's a foreign policy issue, tangled up with decades of propaganda, which makes it all the harder for people to grasp. The Palestinians have shaped their major appeals toward regional Islamic allies and to a smaller extent Europe, while Israel has shaped its major appeals to the USA almost exclusively. The US 'audience' sees the conflict largely in terms laid out along the line of Israel's interests, which have by now swept in the Golan Heights, the occupied territories and the settlements. It will take massive effort to alter this configuration. I don't quite see how it will happen. :-(