love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/15/lib-dem-election-campaign-a-car-crash-says-partys-review?CMP

Turns out internal party reports are good now.

This one appears to suggest the LibDems actually believed they were capable of winning the last election and, well

a mixture of proposals here to address this in the short & medium term, I note it was liked by the hated clive lewis

*wades into rent arguments* Whilst we need to sort a millennia of landlordism, 1st priority is to ensure those who can’t pay their rent from their income keep a decent roof over the heads, whether they’re a low paid worker, or unable to work due to their needs or the job market -

— CarolineJMolloy (@carolinejmolloy) May 15, 2020

clive lewis isn't hated so much as exasperatedly tutted at, his heart has always been in the right place despite his antics and i think most here would agree

and yeah some good/interesting ideas there, may even overlook the use of 'millennia' in the singular

Has Brendan O'Neill always been so morose? He doesn't seem to get any kind of kick out of doing this stuff at all. It feels like he's worn himself out. He should be getting more of a buzz out of it, it not working

tutting is just gutless hating

xp well as long as he's miserable

he's had a hard life, Maxim Gorky has nothing on this mofo's "Irish peasant stock" background of intense class struggle and suffering!

clive lewis isn't hated so much as exasperatedly tutted at, his heart has always been in the right place despite his antics and i think most here would agree

Clive Lewis is a twat

a bit of a Q+C soldier boy and boorish alpha-male wanker from hell even if you want to write off his "antics"!

The report notes that while Swinson was hampered by having less than five months between winning the party leadership and the election, her decision to immediately seek a new party chief executive undermined decision-making structures.

“This had the unintended consequence creating an ‘inner circle’ of advisers at arm’s length from the resources of the party machine, and put decision-making in the hands of an unaccountable group around the leader,” the report says. “It also severed some people from the roles and responsibilities they were employed to do, and led to the overpromotion of others.”

it's a familiar old story, Swinson became intoxicated with power and installed an upper circle of sycophantic cronies who weren't going to hit her with any harsh truths. Love that idiot photo op they did at the autumn party conference were Swinson was Moses on Bournemouth beach, leading her party into the English Channel. "we are LibDems, we only go forwards, even if that means walking into the sea with our clothes on"

Shot; chaser. pic.twitter.com/dS7sUetSmC

— David Timoney (@fromarsetoelbow) May 16, 2020

Bet Clive Lewis liked that excellent thread by accident.

But this is the reality of the solutions this government will come up with:

if those were the terms offered to TfL, what do you think the bailout conditions for universities will be? things are going to get really bad/even worse, very soon

— Amelia (@joan0fsnark) May 16, 2020

Clive Lewis is one of the best current UK MPs.

especially if you enjoy getting on your knees

better than RLB or Nadia Whittome ? nope not a chance and his "antics" aren't having a jokey hand-buzzer and a spinning bow-tie, he's had complaints of groping made against him by women in the plural iirc.

There's about, what, 50 good MPs out of 650? And that's being charitable.

I think that sounds quite generous from the ace with mace downwards there is probably about 630 oxygen thieves, landlords, corrupt lobbyists and tories etc...

The Bundesliga returns today and that will, no doubt, make people pine for the return of the Premier League. If you're amongst those pining, consider having a listen to this. The brilliant @aut_omnia thinks Project Restart is - to quote Danny Rose - bollocks. https://t.co/KyIUaa1jFY

— Chris Miller (@WindyCOYS) May 16, 2020

If this goes well and the PL doesn't re-start because...one to watch.

This is my favourite headline of 2020 so farhttps://t.co/4sPVq4sZ88

— David__Osland (@David__Osland) May 16, 2020

typos in the Times idk

He's only been in one party in 2020 so far, is he dying? Can't believe Sir K hasn't invited him back yet.

The pandemic eggspurt on that Spurs podcast is very good

oh dear Jezza's brother Piers bringing shame to the family name again!

now the hated thangam debbonaire has also liked the caroline molloy tweet, which is sort of heartening but lends credence to the idea that her badness stems primarily from not having a clue what she's doing

when she was on Any Questions earlier this year she talked like someone quite befuddled and dumb rather than an ideologue, I suppose like a lot of the melts. She was telling Ash Sarkar she couldn't be a dual member of the labour party and the communists or something like that, it was quite an embarrassing show but she still got loads of claps I think!

accidentally opened the US politics thread lads
https://i.gifer.com/GGg3.gif

Fucking horrible isn’t it

you, quite literally, hate to see it

Which one?

Beat me to it. The Joe Biden one isn't the Official ILX US Politics Thread.

Christ, the Labour Party leadership election taking 4 months (or however long it was) was painful enough but nothing compared to US presidential campaigns which are more or less infinite.

seriously can't believe how long that primary has gone on

hey if it's always an election then you don't have to do any actual politics

had a quick peek, makes you glad the UK melts are so cowed

US thread is a really good example of people pushing people who think differently to them further away, with each post the possibility of persuasion diminishes.

So are we allowed to comment in a political thread concerning a country we're not from? I've never been sure of the etiquette.

This happens everywhere but its notable that the removal of Fred doesn't actually seem to have made any difference. Its tempting to compare Fred to a massive shit that has a smell long after the shit itself has been cleaned away, but I think that's somewhat unfair and only a small contributory factor.

Have you heard he's been unbanned btw?

Can I just say; Piers Corbyn speaks for Piers Corbyn and only Piers Corbyn.

...Every family has a Piers I'm sure 🙄😂

— Tommy Corbyn (@TommyCorbyn) May 16, 2020

lol !

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/16/thatcherite-thinktanks-back-increase-public-spending-in-lockdown?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

in a call to around 125 members of the 1922 Committee of backbenchers, the Daily Telegraph reported that the prime minister said there was “no question” of a return to austerity, and assured them he would “double down” on funding transport projects in the north of England.

Left-leaning thinktanks and academics have lined up to condemn plans for a return to austerity, saying it would harm the recovery, and adding that further government borrowing would be needed to secure a return to growth after the virus-induced mothballing of the economy.

All thinktanks should be liquidated "a return to austerity" the faux-naive graun pretending that austerity ended is such an insult to millions of people still living through it. cunts

the recovery

what is this

If this lot are as proficient at recovery as they are at prevention I wouldn't expect much.

I know that liking an eminently sensible Twitter thread is ultimately meaningless but Clive Lewis comes across as a slightly dim, misogynist boor who allies himself on the right side of several arguments. Debobbaire was a whip under Corbyn so can hardly be on the irreconcilable right of the party but is a terrible communicator and comes across as someone who is basically well meaning but has internalised a lot of dreadful shit about how sensible grown-up politics is done.

that's what I was reaching for when I posted she isn't an ideologue, ironically the flimsy sense of what her *politics* are, that you get from listening to her - are certainly more informed by party factionalism than any kind of political conviction and much more so than than in the lefties she accuses of factionalism or "un-Labourness"

well fuck it, she's an irredeemable melt is the truth!

Clive Lewis often positions himself to the left of many awful people in the PLP but still seems a very *grasping* unreliable type of political operator who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw him. Even if he wasn't so obviously such a terrible human being.

Love too see comrade alphie is so influential he can prevent tens of thousands of swing voters in the US from voting, just because of his utterances on little-read website ilx dot com.

Good to see the government’s approval ratings fall; long may it continue. I see that Eton and other rich kid schools won’t reopen til the autumn, but state school children must be resilient or something?