season three just v v bad
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link
looks rubbish at first watch and for a while after, but then the revisionists will come along and it will actually be better.
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link
It's like the whole thing is in a holding pattern - nothing ever changes. Veronica and Logan are together - they break up - they're together - they angst over it - will they break up - Pizz looks hopeful - Pizz looks hurt. There's nothing tying it all together, and every episode seems like it could be the same (except for the woeful rape mystery they began with) I really don't think the writers know what to do.
There were loads of highs and lows before - you always knew a good episode wold come along, or at least something with lots of twists and mystery and intrigue... now it's just like a dull hum in the background, and a twisty story about a monkey. And, does anyone care? There's no real narrative thread and even the Cyrus murder was barely there.
This is totally dif to Buffy season 4, cos that at least had some sense of direction and change - maybe in ways people didn't like, but it was going somewhere. This show seems to be ambling slowly, ever so slowly, to a nothing conclusion - and the fact they're ending the season with five one offs seems to be indicative of that.
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― c(,,c) (Leee), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link
keith asking veronica where weevil was scene > veronica & mac's first PHAT meeting scene > keith & weevil in the dean's office scene > veronica & mac's second PHAT meeting scene > veronica arriving home to find keith standing in silence worrying about the dean's scotch scene
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 25 January 2007 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 25 January 2007 01:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 25 January 2007 02:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 25 January 2007 03:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 25 January 2007 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 25 January 2007 04:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 25 January 2007 04:37 (seventeen years ago) link
and the fact they're ending the season with five one offs seems to be indicative of that.
That isn't their fault. the network won't give them the two final episodes, at least not in enough time to properly set up the final arc I assume.
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Thursday, 25 January 2007 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 25 January 2007 04:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 25 January 2007 07:56 (seventeen years ago) link
I'd take more new stuff, more Wallace for sure, more anything, I'd like to see them trying something - just to fill all this empty space they seem to have going on.
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Thursday, 25 January 2007 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
the mystery of the week is that a monkey and some rats have been stolen from a medical research lab on campus. Veronica enlists Mac to go undercover with the campus PETA-esque animal rights group ("PHAT") to find out if they liberated the animals. that turns out to be a dead-end, but the leader of the group, an Adrian Grenier lookalike, takes a liking to Mac, and after various roadblocks, they set up a first date and kiss (aw!) this is significant because of Mac being all gunshy because of Beaver last year. it turns out one of the labworkers liberated the monkey himself, and Veronica doesn't rat him out, but her attempt to save the monkey's life (the subjects of research are all eventually killed so they can be autopsied) proves futile, as the scientist in charge just decides to special order another monkey.
Logan and Veronica mope about each other separately all episode. Logan has meaningless sex with a girl we're meant to find trashy. there's a conversation between Veronica and Piz about not being willing to date just anyone and it seems like they might be on the very boring road to hookup, but instead, in the next scene, Veronica shows up on Logan's door, they look all stricken roadkill at each other for like an hour and then start making out. (most annoying moment of the episode in my eyes.)
I think that's it. scenes from next week indicate even more Logan Veronica drama in exactly the same mold as the goddamn rest of the season.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 25 January 2007 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link
But generally, S3 is bumming me out.
― J (Jay), Friday, 26 January 2007 01:08 (seventeen years ago) link
From what I've heard it's more likely to be post-college, Veronica and Keith trying to make a go of it as a mismatched father and daughter detective duo. Which would be no great shame. I don't know if I've ever been so upset by a tv show as I was at the end of series 2 when it looked like Keith might have been blown out of the sky by the little guy. So, yeah, he should stay.
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 26 January 2007 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 26 January 2007 09:04 (seventeen years ago) link
No matter how bad it gets, I'll keep watching for "tell me he plays the piano."
The only way to salvage this and any future seasons is to kill the Logan-Veronica relationship.
― milo z (mlp), Saturday, 27 January 2007 06:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Saturday, 27 January 2007 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link
OTM. Also, more Vinnie Van Lowe.
― The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Sunday, 28 January 2007 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Monday, 29 January 2007 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 29 January 2007 05:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― c(,,c) (Leee), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link
I haven't seen this episode yet.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― be home by 11 (orion), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link
I mean, Bell can make a whole lot of stuff seem convincingly awesome, but then there are certain things that are just ... and then she hits them so valiantly and confidently anyway.
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link