there was a lot of stuff on social media at the start of lockdown, it seems to have tailed off a bit but yeah you're right i'm sure it's still out there and likely to resurge as lockdown eases
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 10:42 (four years ago) link
I mean the far right are in government now.
Well yeah, that too.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 10:45 (four years ago) link
The BBC ran a story about mosques opening for Ramadan on the front page without saying those mosques were in non-lockdown areas of Pakistan and Indonesia.
― gyac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 10:49 (four years ago) link
Both that and the story you've linked to just above suggest a problem with stories from the World section being just chucked on the front page without any context in the headline. Difficult to know whether it's incompetent/slapdash editing or deliberate shit-stirring. Or both.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 10:59 (four years ago) link
I know what my money’s on! Just absolutely no trust whatsoever.
― gyac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:12 (four years ago) link
For the front page of the site to just not be mentioning that UK swaths have overtaken Italy is...
Sorry. I forgot that journalism has misread the mood of the nation.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:14 (four years ago) link
i feel like at this point it's fair to assume there are some pretty nasty bad faith actors somewehre in the BBC's news editorial staff
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:15 (four years ago) link
It's a massive but woefully under-prioritised issue in digital info design and online journalism generally. When stories are shared even if the date is visible on the page itself it's not in the 'capsule' that people see on social media which is usually just the headline, main picture and opening sentence. The date of publication and any acknowledgement that the story has since been updated or contains out of date info are usually tiny and easily missed. Integrating them so that they at least appear at the start of the main article text itself might improve things but probably not going to happen any time soon. The story can easily be shared second-handedly with that information removed but most news organisations either haven't got to grips with the problem or are actively encouraging it.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:16 (four years ago) link
For the front page of the site to just not be mentioning that UK swaths have overtaken Italy is...I'm conflicted about this. That Guardian line is spun – the comparisons aren't like-for-like (Italy's numbers don't include suspected cases, our numbers are based only on death certificate wording, etc). They'd be open to criticism for pushing a comparison that doesn't fully stand up. The BBC isn't alone in noting but essentially ignoring it – the FT is too, and they've been all over the appropriate comparisons. But the wider point — that it's being generally underplayed quite how shockingly bad things are here – is bang-on
― stet, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:33 (four years ago) link
Isn’t the FT arguing that the catastrophic death count has been dramatically undercounted though?
― gyac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:35 (four years ago) link
When you consider the death rate in terms of the size of the population the UK isn't the worst in Europe. I didn't realise Belgium was doing so badly.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:38 (four years ago) link
speaking of chucking world news stories onto the front page without context, the Guardian has been publishing local Australian stories into its main feeds for YEARS now with zero indication that that's where it's from - still catches me out sometimes. i'm like 'there's a massive forest fire in wales????'
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:39 (four years ago) link
Obviously that's not an excuse, Germany has a significantly larger population than both the UK and Italy and is doing a lot better - allowing for regional mistakes made in easing the lockdown of course.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:41 (four years ago) link
"Belgium was doing so badly."
there might be a correlation between high c-19 death rates and countries with lousy domestic cuisine!
― calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:44 (four years ago) link
there's a general impression of european countries 'easing' their lockdowns, often with little in the way of detail when reported in the news, that contributes towards a feeling that this is the time, everyone else is doing it.. but in france and spain their easing only gets them to about where the uk is now i.e. restaurants doing takeaway, kids allowed in parks, some people allowed to travel for work etc. By these standards we've been 'eased' the entire time!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:46 (four years ago) link
Belgium apparently is more inclusive in its data so I'm not sure they are actually 'the worst'.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:51 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:54 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I don't think it's clear to a lot of people in the UK that compared with other countries in Europe much of the UK hasn't really had a lockdown at all
― fetter, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:54 (four years ago) link
Yeah but the freedom-loving* Brits can’t be held to the same standards as Jean Foreigner and Paddy Gobackwards.
*except in the case of countries formerly part of the empire lol
― gyac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:56 (four years ago) link
Attacks against Chinese on the increase in the UK.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-hate-crimes-against-chinese-people-soar-in-uk-during-covid-19-crisis-11979388
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 13:49 (four years ago) link
i for one am impressed with how malleable the great british public's racist violence is
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:18 (four years ago) link
there might be a correlation between high c-19 death rates and countries with lousy domestic cuisine!― calzino, Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:44 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― calzino, Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:44 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
got to pull you up on this one Calz, Belgium is one of the best places to eat in the world IME
― Neil S, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link
Christ I hate this guy so fucking much
I will respectfully challenge the Government - I want our country to succeed.However, I will not 'watch my tone' when dozens of NHS and care staff are dying unnecessarily.A clip of my Q to the Health Sec today. pic.twitter.com/5jjQRXyIm3— Dr Rosena Allin-Khan (@DrRosena) May 5, 2020
― gyac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link
Also where does that thesis leave Italy and Spain? The US, you may have a point.xpost
― the fucking cunts treat us like Styx (Matt #2), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
I thought Belgium's national dish is oven chips with blood sausage or something!
― calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link
it’s beer iirc
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link
best chips in the world, with the possible exception of the Netherlands
― Neil S, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link
Here's more songs about chocolate and beer.
That praise from Tom Watson has gone to his head.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link
That Allin-Khan video has been shared all over the place today, just terrible judgement from Hancock.
The BBC is now going with 'Highest Death Toll In Europe' as its main story.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
Seriously though, I do think Hancock's ego has been puffed up by getting smoke blown up his arse over his incredible unprecedented success with testing.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link
and his brilliant Rona app that he says is everyone's duty to download ... yeah I'd rather actually install a disease
― calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link
You wouldn’t download a disease would you?
― gyac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:12 (four years ago) link
I haven’t been following; why is this app so much worse than eg Facebook or GMaps?
― stet, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:17 (four years ago) link
The only people who'll download it will be Tories! Might give skewed data on the viral spread. Fuck that anyway, I'd be as likely to download an app from HMRC tbh.
― the fucking cunts treat us like Styx (Matt #2), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link
"You wouldn’t download a disease would you?"
I've been trying force my pc to develop immunity to Putin bitcoin mining trojans by downloading movies from dodgy disreputable torrent sites for years now .. so sort of!
― calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:57 (four years ago) link
belgian chips are mad overrated
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link
They certainly don't look anything special. When a creep like MH says it is one's duty to dl this Rona app an internal switch clicks in me where I've just switched that app off forever.
― calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
if Hat Mancock told you not to jump off a cliff would you do it?
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link
Only if I had Steer Marmaluke chained to me!
― calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link
well played
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link
I meant Then I would jump off a cliff even if he told me not to!
― calzino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link
Negativity problems itt
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link
the far right are in government now
turns out gove’s a big old fascist, shocking I know
Holy fucking shit. As well as Irving Michael Gove has books from prominent French New Right authors (fascists). Here's Why We Fight by Guillaume Faye - a core reading for new recruits of Generation Identiy. Before his death Faye spoke at events hosted by Richard Spencer https://t.co/BSnWNTbegj— 12 Rules For WHAT (@12rulesforwhat) May 5, 2020
― What's (Left), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link
real nerd shit
― What's (Left), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link
oops sorry
― What's (Left), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:32 (four years ago) link
all tories are fascists at this point afaic
― What's (Left), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link
I see now I’m late to the party as usual
― What's (Left), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link
🔴Exclusive: Government scientist Neil Ferguson resigns after breaking lockdown rules to meet his married lover https://t.co/eLOfVjgHPL— The Telegraph (@Telegraph) May 5, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link
the bookshelf of a true galaxy brain:
https://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/459000/Thomas-Mair-s-bookshelf-721459.jpg
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:47 (four years ago) link
This is essentially making constructive dismissal easier, and will let companies advertise the same roles for less pay— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) May 5, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link