Programming as a career

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breh if i'm working on a giant project i'm definitely squash merging my fuckton of commits into 1 for the sake of keeping the master branch clean

RYMsnitch, Sunday, 3 May 2020 19:52 (six years ago)

smh if you aren’t interactively rebasing your feature branches into a glittering necklace of logical and well-described commits.

silby, Sunday, 3 May 2020 19:59 (six years ago)

sorry whiney but you have to turn in your cool badge at the security desk now, prepare to be bullied, NERD

― j., Sunday, May 3, 2020 2:50 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

going from "geek" to "nerd" will be a difficult transition but not an impossible one

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 3 May 2020 21:43 (six years ago)

It's been fun meeting people who have no idea what noise music is!

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 3 May 2020 21:45 (six years ago)

silby otm.

Just you wait, Whiney.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 May 2020 23:06 (six years ago)

having a true commit history is infinitely more useful than having a clean master branch. also you should be doing what silby said

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Sunday, 3 May 2020 23:27 (six years ago)

always said i'd leave ilx after stet adds inline manscaped adds

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 May 2020 00:56 (six years ago)

Congratulations whiney!

treeship., Monday, 4 May 2020 02:24 (six years ago)

I did ReactJS!

Welcome fellow ReactJS dev!

cherry blossom, Monday, 4 May 2020 06:20 (six years ago)

"I did ReactJS!"

How is the 40 hour course on Udemy, anyone know?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 May 2020 14:23 (six years ago)

Which one is it? Don't pay full price, the courses are often 90% off!

https://wesbos.com/courses is definitely worth a look

cherry blossom, Monday, 4 May 2020 18:32 (six years ago)

also worth noting is that react has some of the best documentation I've come across -- had to learn enough of it in about two-three weeks for a quick project, and that definitely helped

of course the downside to it is that I can't really say I know it, I just know enough of it to make stuff and google in the gaps

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 4 May 2020 19:04 (six years ago)

That describes nearly all software developers. The rest don’t know how to use google.

silby, Monday, 4 May 2020 19:07 (six years ago)

i was gonna say tbh

kim rong un (darraghmac), Monday, 4 May 2020 19:08 (six years ago)

I guess my point was more, it's definitely possible to learn on your own, particularly if you have experience with coding/specifically javascript, but a course formalizes that, if that makes sense

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 4 May 2020 19:12 (six years ago)

My experience is that the formal stuff crops up more often in interviews, although at the same time there are some things that fall into that category but which I've internalized as Just Something You Should Know.

Judd Apatowsaurus (Leee), Monday, 4 May 2020 19:53 (six years ago)

Which one is it? Don't pay full price, the courses are often 90% off!

https://wesbos.com/courses is definitely worth a look

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It's this one:

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I have a free pass. My background is Data not web Development (SAS, SQL), know the project lifecycle etc.

I am currently picking up some Python and like R (doing a course of each for the next 1-2 weeks), but was wondering about a JS course.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 May 2020 20:01 (six years ago)

Let me try that again:

https://www.udemy.com/course/modern-react-bootcamp/

(Only have it for free due to my company's account, not sure how long that will last)

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 May 2020 20:04 (six years ago)

I don't know that one but just the other day I was recommended 'The Advanced Web Developer Bootcamp' by the same author

My hot take is that by this point all courses are probably good. The only danger I think with courses is you follow along and build the app and maybe some of it is easy and some of it is hard, you follow along the path and get to the end, and think I kinda got this. Then any slight divergence doing your own thing and you're off the path and in the weeds drowning.

I think there's a lot to be said for the opposite approach, building things from the ground up and googling how to do each step. The reason primarily being each thing sticks a lot more, you don't lose what you've learned. There's definitely a danger with following courses/tutorials alone that it doesn't stick. A combination is best, smaller apps/projects for the second because its tougher than following a course

google in the gaps

This is the best skill to have, especially given the weird things that can come up you would never be able to prepare for!

cherry blossom, Monday, 4 May 2020 20:38 (six years ago)

Thats more of an all purpose answer, looks like differnt people have different needs/goals!

cherry blossom, Monday, 4 May 2020 20:40 (six years ago)

Lots of good courses to get a start on the basics but yes googling around the labyrinth of answers when something unexpected comes up and working through problems is almost like the key skill, whatever you code/script in.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 May 2020 20:50 (six years ago)

I just want to say I was very anti-squash right up until the first time I had to rollback something out of the dev branch that hadn't been squashed; now I am all "if you do not squash that shit before merging, I will murder you"

DJP, Monday, 4 May 2020 21:08 (six years ago)

smh

silby, Monday, 4 May 2020 21:11 (six years ago)

Right, BEFORE merging, not AT THE MOMENT OF merging.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 May 2020 21:12 (six years ago)

If you're not committing to the trunk multiple times -- meaning that your changes are in an isolated feature branch that is eventually merged into trunk -- then you can revert all of that stuff by reverting the merge commit.

Squashing, being a manual process, always introduces the possibility of human error.

Judd Apatowsaurus (Leee), Monday, 4 May 2020 21:35 (six years ago)

but if you squash your commits what will happen to your profanity-laden commit messages that end up here https://twitter.com/gitlost

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 4 May 2020 21:42 (six years ago)

Whats all the squash talk? Can't you just not allow the PR until its been squashed

We mostly PR directly on to master, ideally with few commits but I just reset and then PR with just the one commit (in theory not always in practice)

cherry blossom, Monday, 4 May 2020 21:42 (six years ago)

Yeah I commit until the cows come home into a feature branch, then squash the feature branch into dev. (I use Bitbucket to do this so there is little chance for human error.)

DJP, Monday, 4 May 2020 23:31 (six years ago)

the trouble is the ideal number of commits to actually land for review is likely (imo) somewhere in between 1 and n

that said I don't really bother anyone I currently work with about this b/c our practices are bad and I'm still relatively new and don't want to waste my energy telling people to be better if they don't already value it

silby, Monday, 4 May 2020 23:44 (six years ago)

this is why when you "google in the gaps" on git you get three answers with all of them telling you definitely not to do what the other two say.

is version control hard or is git terrible? ('both' is an acceptable answer.)

a slice of greater pastry (ledge), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 08:08 (six years ago)

You get better at googling though! Or maybe more accurately you get better at breaking down the bits so you're googling for smaller steps instead of "how do I build a moon"

I feel like git is as easy or as hard as your team makes it. I only really ever run add, commit, pull, push, merge, branch, checkout, and reset

cherry blossom, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 08:20 (six years ago)

ime it's beloved of people who like to over-complicate everything they do.

our default at work is to squash merge from feature branch into master. that way you don't get all the 'i'm trying this' or 'changed a thing' commits. before github there weren't feature branches...

koogs, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 08:24 (six years ago)

I am lazy and just use a GUI

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 08:31 (six years ago)

I do my adds and commits from the button inside vscode! the others from terminal

cherry blossom, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 09:39 (six years ago)

I think it would be cool to work at a shop where people had time to worry about things like squashing commits to make the log look nicer. Our logs look like a tire fire.

o. nate, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 21:33 (six years ago)

to be fair the only times I use git are for projects that don't remotely care about this, or for my own personal projects

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 22:07 (six years ago)

git is good but has way too many options so takes forever to learn.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 22:16 (six years ago)

And then there are current best practices but some people didn't upload their brains so are still stuck on outmoded best practices.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 22:17 (six years ago)

goddam I really messed up this whole career thing lol

brimstead, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 22:28 (six years ago)

crushed some SQL today lads

silby, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 22:37 (six years ago)

xp -- this isn't career stuff, the only code I've done in the past month is a dumb reverse engineering project

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 23:00 (six years ago)

lol sorry that was just a general scream into the void

brimstead, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 23:09 (six years ago)

Scream away!

I was scanning over my old posts, and I'm kind of stunned at how far I've come. Granted, that was (yikes) more than 10 years ago, but the industry's changed a load too, especially with the rise of bootcamps. I think those alone would've helped me out back then, and they're probably the best avenue for people thinking of getting into industry as a part of a career change.

Judd Apatowsaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 23:35 (six years ago)

I am proud to have leapfrogged from bash scripts into management like the ambitious careerist motherfucker that I was raised to be

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:23 (six years ago)

Or basically “I realized I sucked at code so I volunteered for everything else I could do until it worked”

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:25 (six years ago)

volunteering to do things where you've found a strength is seriously underrated and doesn't work in all organizations, but it's a good strategy

mh, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:29 (six years ago)

git is good but has way too many options so takes forever to learn.

I think git is great but to me its very much a secondary thing, I don't want to do anything more than the 8 or 9 commands I use. And if I found I was doing anything more than that I would wonder what had gone wrong that I needed those things.

Although hmmm, having said that github actions might be something worth looking into one day

cherry blossom, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 04:04 (six years ago)

I’ve done some vile things with git

silby, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 05:07 (six years ago)

surprisingly, vilegit.com seems unregistered

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 06:13 (six years ago)

a foul repository

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 17:16 (six years ago)


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