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mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link

"ecofascism"

coming on 2 months since a half dozen likely 22 year olds made a half dozen dumbass tweets and the nation's smug are still in a frenzy about it

until donald trump and mitch mcconnell start advocating genocide for sake of dear mother gaia i think i'm going to keep the threat level at green

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Saturday, 2 May 2020 05:31 (four years ago) link

the front lines, the frontline workers

not everything is a (great) war

mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 14:41 (four years ago) link

If I could sum up everything that grinds my gears about blitz spirit, real england, nostalgia for imperialism, colonialism, dying in the thousands in war and endless unquestioning love for the royal family in one word it would be

BUNTING

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Friday, 8 May 2020 12:13 (four years ago) link

Also hate bunting in baseball and I know next to nothing about baseball. Feels like a heel play.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Friday, 8 May 2020 12:16 (four years ago) link

Walking as well. Fuck that coward move.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Friday, 8 May 2020 12:17 (four years ago) link

heel plays are the best plays :D

Flaneuring Bevan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 May 2020 12:20 (four years ago) link

my dad's always held that home runs should be considered foul balls as the ball has been put outside the bounds of play

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 May 2020 12:24 (four years ago) link

Calling a thing a "so-called" thing when it's just the name of the thing, just like all the other things.

Been hearing a lot of "the so-called R number" this week.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Monday, 11 May 2020 00:58 (four years ago) link

Spelling "never mind" as a single word when it is not a proper noun referring to the title of a Nirvana album. I don't actually think anyone did this pre-1991. I also always assumed that the title meant more than just "never mind".

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Monday, 11 May 2020 04:51 (four years ago) link

I guess that means it offends me as both an English speaker and a Nirvana fan.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Monday, 11 May 2020 05:00 (four years ago) link

ugh wrote out a response to this but...... nv m

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Monday, 11 May 2020 05:04 (four years ago) link

this [album / movie / book] "slaps"

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 11 May 2020 10:56 (four years ago) link

"iconic"

groovemaaan, Monday, 11 May 2020 12:52 (four years ago) link

I am annoyed every time I see the phrase "Nobel Prize-winning economist", that's a fake Nobel Prize and it's aggravating

silby, Monday, 11 May 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link

The prize consists of money and the money isn't fake.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 11 May 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link

it's legal tender!

genital giant (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 May 2020 23:05 (four years ago) link

"I'M SCREAMING"

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:04 (four years ago) link

"real ones"

"only the real ones wore Silly Bandz"
"real ones know it was Yanny and Laurel"
"real ones can quote the entire fire drill scene from The Office"
"real ones remember this lil guy: https://i.imgur.com/Kq8Eq3T.gif"

stop trying to make fetch the bolt cutters happen (unregistered), Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link

"Every death is a tragedy". Given that it's only politicians who ever say it and they only say it when someone has died and it's directly or indirectly their fault.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:49 (four years ago) link

always followed by "but,"

silby, Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:03 (four years ago) link

Preceded by "Of course..."

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link

ugh, "depthful"

jmm, Friday, 22 May 2020 14:20 (four years ago) link

depthful is great, it has a classic Old English flavor and that fearsome consonant sequence in the middle!

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 22 May 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link

Hmm, good point. I probably would like it more as literal usage, e.g. "The abyss is most depthful."

jmm, Friday, 22 May 2020 16:06 (four years ago) link

in what sense have you heard it used?

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 22 May 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link

As synonymous with 'profound' or 'meaningful' to describe a work of art. In that context, it always just sounded like a contorted way of saying 'deep'.

I'm happy to learn that 'lengthful' was once in common use.

jmm, Friday, 22 May 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link

I was once in a conversation about a wine (iirc it was a Chateauneuf-du-Pape) where someone said it had a lot of "flavorfulness." Someone else said "yeah, some of us just call that 'flavor.'"

Personally I have no problem with elevated diction, elaborately florid language, and with sesquipedalian circumlocutions. So in theory I am okay with "depthful" and "lengthful," but I know there will always be some sneering simplifier asking why you don't just say "deep" or "long."

I bless Claude Rains down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 May 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link

the idea that simplicity or directness is anywhere near the top of the list of motivations for word choice is insane if you're a linguist. that's not how any of this works! caprice is so undervalued as a foundational aspect of language

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 22 May 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link

sorry i think you mean capriciousness

budo jeru, Friday, 22 May 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link

lol

pomenitul, Friday, 22 May 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link

totally agree, f. hazel.

Just sayin, if you go out into the world of professional writers and editors, be prepared to have to fight any time you want to use a three-syllable word when there's an allegedly synonymous one-syllable word available. There's someone in every office who's read a little too much Hemingway.*

Though I have a tough time defending "compliancy" when the prettier word "compliance" exists.

* = Or, rather, thinks they have. People using "Hemingway" as a stand-in for short/punchy/raw sentences are being both simplistic and wrong. Hemingway wrote a whole bunch of frilly filler as well as cartoonishly muscular, manly, "simple" prose. But that's a different topic.

I bless Claude Rains down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 May 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

Following Strunk & White is a great guide for 98% of people who must write something in order to communicate to others, because most people have little stomach for writing. They approach it as a tedious chore, a frightening opportunity to fail in public, or an elaborate way to bury their thoughts in impenetrable prose and thereby deflect criticism.

But Strunk & White is not a master class. Every masterly writer moves past that level and learns to write in a flexible prose that personally suits them.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 22 May 2020 17:53 (four years ago) link

sorry i think you mean capriciousness

xpost lol!

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link

re Strunk & White - hell to the yeah. "Omit needless words" is decent advice for some people. But in the wrong hands, it can be turned into a really stifling atmosphere, where joy and fun and play are outlawed.

I bless Claude Rains down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:02 (four years ago) link

Strunk and White have been dead for a combined 100 years or something, there’s nothing timeless about style advice.

silby, Friday, 22 May 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link

"I can't stop thinking about blahblahblah".
I'm fairly sure you stop thinking about it all the time, now fuck off with your failed attempts at gravitas.

Alert! The virus lives (Matt #2), Friday, 22 May 2020 21:05 (four years ago) link

I used that phrase in a thread here yesterday but I don't think I was trying to evoke gravitas!

silby, Friday, 22 May 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link

To be fair to Hemingwayesque editors, paper costs money

dip to dup (rob), Friday, 22 May 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link

yeah like anyone actually uses paper and ink anymore

I bless Bad Brains down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 May 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link

some people eat them

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 May 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link

“it’s an art not a science”

brimstead, Saturday, 23 May 2020 01:24 (four years ago) link

& variations thereof

brimstead, Saturday, 23 May 2020 01:24 (four years ago) link

I am a working scientist. Every month or so I get the urge to stand on a roof and scream "JUST BECAUSE YOU MEASURED SOMETHING DOESN'T MAKE IT SCIENCE" at Heston Blumenthal and every marketing consultant who uses a "fact about the brain" to shore up their buzzword bullshit, and every fucker who looks up something on the internet to support their argument and GIFs it with "SCIENCE". Fuck this bullshit. If you feel the need to announce it as SCIENCE it reliably shows you don't know what science is. Same goes for the chumps who think "scientifically proven" is a thing, it's not, it's the exact opposite of what science is. FUCK.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 23 May 2020 02:05 (four years ago) link

miss rona

groovemaaan, Saturday, 23 May 2020 04:23 (four years ago) link

our govt's speeches and press releases have the phrase "scientific advice" packed in wherever possible, and then some. I've started to hear it in the "SCIENCE!" way Matthew describes.

kinder, Saturday, 23 May 2020 08:35 (four years ago) link

pair it with the visuals and faux equations they do produce and it's like an Armando Iannucci pisstake

kinder, Saturday, 23 May 2020 08:37 (four years ago) link

Quite plainly a ploy to ensure scientists get stuck with the blame when investigations into the mishandling of this shitshow begin.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 May 2020 08:52 (four years ago) link

Science and magic are not interchangeable, not that you can tell people that

Alert! The virus lives (Matt #2), Saturday, 23 May 2020 09:07 (four years ago) link


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