So, apart from said exemptions, everyone in the UK aged between approx 30 and 80 would have had the BCG jag - fat lot of good it's done us.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link
er what. where did you read that?
I didn't get it. I had a test done as well when my wife had it - negative for antibodies. so that is bollocks, sorry
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link
United Kingdom: The UK introduced universal BCG immunization in 1953. From then until July 2005, UK policy was to immunize all school children aged between 10 and 14 years of age, and all neonates born into high-risk groups. The injection was given only once during an individual's lifetime (as there is no evidence of additional protection from more than one vaccination). BCG was also given to protect people who had been exposed to tuberculosis. The peak of tuberculosis incidence is in adolescence and early adulthood, and an MRC trial showed efficacy lasted a maximum of 15 years.[63] Routine immunization with BCG for all school children was scrapped in July 2005 because of falling cost-effectiveness: whereas in 1953, 94 children would have to be immunized to prevent one case of TB, by 1988, the annual incidence of TB in the UK had fallen so much, 12,000 children would have to be immunized to prevent a single case of TB.[64] The vaccine is still given to at risk healthcare professionals.[65]
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link
BCG was the injection which meant for about a month everyone was punching each other in the arm where they’d had their jab. memorable for my brother whenever you went even close to him flinching away and going “MY BCG!”
― Fizzles, Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link
this may or may not be a useful data point.
― Fizzles, Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link
So, yes, there was a skin test before they gave you the vaccine, to see if you needed it.
The tuberculin skin test (also called the Mantoux test) may be given before you are offered the BCG vaccine. If you develop a hard red lump at the test site, this is a positive result. It means that your immune system already recognises TB, because you have been exposed to the disease in the past. In this case you should not be given the BCG vaccine because you already have some immunity to TB, and the vaccine may cause unpleasant side effects. If you have no reaction to the skin test, this is a negative result, and you can safely have the BCG vaccine.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link
_(of course teenage boys being monsters everybody went round punching each other on the arm after they'd just had the shot)_I remember the damp patch on my school shirt like yesterday after some 5th form bruiser bully boy repeatedly punched the tender jab area and pus was oozing out of this septic mess on my upper arm! Still got the scar.
― Fizzles, Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link
xxp gonna have to say "citation needed" there
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link
If you didn't need the vaccine - if you tested positive to the skin test - you didn't get the vaccine. So you must have tested positive.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link
I guess it's possible and whatever the skin test tests for doesn't come up on an actual TB test because it's a slightly different antibody or something
maybe it's genetic... I don't think my sister got the TB jab either. my mum has the scar though
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link
Nobody wanted the BCG ime!
https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/bcg-vaccine
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link
I had a pal at school in the late 70's whose dad died "from lockjaw" after grazing his knee in some mud playing football. We possibly had more of a fear of diseases and viruses back then than Tories, but they've done a lot of good work since to redress that balance!
― calzino, Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:40 (four years ago) link
So. Let's get this straight. Retailers don't have to their pay rent during the Coronavirus pandemic but us workers and carers still have to pay ours? 😡😡😡😡😡The government needs to #SuspendRent so we can feel safe and prioritise food over rent. https://t.co/IQME8ymsxr— London Renters Union (@LDNRentersUnion) April 24, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 April 2020 07:48 (four years ago) link
daily mail already back to bullying nurses
― plax (ico), Friday, 24 April 2020 07:56 (four years ago) link
these things break down according to racial lines!!! or even create/perpetuate those racial lines!!
Yes thank you for pointing this out, I hadn't previously realised it, nor was it implied in my post.
― Matt DC, Friday, 24 April 2020 09:21 (four years ago) link
BCG was the injection which meant for about a month everyone was punching each other in the arm where they’d had their jab.
memorable for my brother whenever you went even close to him flinching away and going “MY BCG!”
― Fizzles, Thursday, April 23, 2020 9:08 PM (yesterday)
― Fizzles, Thursday, April 23, 2020 9:09 PM (yesterday)
I can corroborate this. It hurt if you whacked it there for at least three or four months, and people hit each other there all the time.
― Matt DC, Friday, 24 April 2020 09:25 (four years ago) link
Is the ban on commercial evictions different from the one already implemented for domestic ones?
― ShariVari, Friday, 24 April 2020 09:26 (four years ago) link
There was a thing going around leftist online spaces to chant "GIVE THEM PPE" during the clapping last night. I gave it a go but only got puzzled smiles. :/
If I'm reading correctly it's that commercial establishments won't have to pay back the rents after the crisis is over, while renters will?
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 24 April 2020 10:20 (four years ago) link
I think they still have to pay back the money - it's just an extension to the period in which a landlord can't force a company into winding-up if they haven't paid. It's confusing, though.
― ShariVari, Friday, 24 April 2020 10:28 (four years ago) link
Yeah I don't know the ins and outs of that tweet just thought it was interesting enough given how many private renters will be impacted.
This story.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/23/hospitals-sound-alarm-over-privately-run-test-centre-in-surrey
Contractors going at this all the way, till we lol die.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 April 2020 10:30 (four years ago) link
It's understandable that people are confused about what 'mortgage holidays' and rent deferral schemes mean as you really have to go looking for the details. There's been a lot of criticism of Labour (both Corbyn and Starmer) for not backing rent cancellation but i've not seen much about how that could be worked up into a practical policy. Dan Davies' suggestion of waiving inheritance or capital gains tax equal to the value of any rent waived is interesting. Ultimately, one way or another, the government is going to end up having to pay for it but that would presumably spread the cost over a longer period.
― ShariVari, Friday, 24 April 2020 10:42 (four years ago) link
Never been more relatable
I just wanted to tweet this pic.twitter.com/TEzWKynn23— Cecily (@cecilyleah) April 23, 2020
― gyac, Friday, 24 April 2020 11:11 (four years ago) link
Strong RADA-graduate-making-his-debut-in-The-Bill vibes to that.
― Matt DC, Friday, 24 April 2020 11:14 (four years ago) link
Maybe Line of Duty instead. His character will be dead or in prison by the end of Episode 4.
― Matt DC, Friday, 24 April 2020 11:19 (four years ago) link
needs more balaclavamen
― mark s, Friday, 24 April 2020 11:37 (four years ago) link
clip of charles and camilla absolutely incredible.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 April 2020 11:54 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Friday, 24 April 2020 12:01 (four years ago) link
My god @bbc what is wrong with you? Do you want to unleash mobs of Islamophobes on mosques in the UK? Your headlines say "Some mosques open despite COVID restrictions" -- but you don't mention it is a few mosques in Pakistan & Indonesia.— Laleh Khalili (@LalehKhalili) April 24, 2020
― gyac, Friday, 24 April 2020 12:07 (four years ago) link
Tired mum 'named and shamed' on Facebook for not joining clap for carers https://t.co/GWAG6tpyYv— Manchester News MEN (@MENnewsdesk) April 24, 2020
― gyac, Friday, 24 April 2020 13:07 (four years ago) link
Never been more relatable― gyac, Friday, April 24, 2020 11:11 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
this week's PMQs looks lit
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Friday, 24 April 2020 13:09 (four years ago) link
xp clearly tired mum doesn't participate in the clapping because her neighbours are cunts, same reason I don't tbf
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 24 April 2020 13:10 (four years ago) link
He’ll be the mark you’re supposed to believe is conniving against our heroes, only to be your standard issue cheater who gets knocked off in a horrific fashion.
100%.
― Matt DC, Friday, 24 April 2020 13:12 (four years ago) link
The good news is that Public Health UK has appointed someone to investigate disproportionate BAME deaths.
The bad news? It’s Trevor Phillips.
― ShariVari, Friday, 24 April 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link
ffs
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Friday, 24 April 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link
Well well if it isn’t The Economist doing its bit to make us think there’s actually a post covid debt burden which we will all have to pay for. There isn’t, but the Economist and the class it represents wants you think there is so “the debt” can be shoveled into their pockets. pic.twitter.com/f9D8ivDYZT— Mr Demos of Pnyx (@gem_ste) April 23, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 April 2020 14:06 (four years ago) link
Crying
And in case anyone wanted that out of context clip of him... https://t.co/AZjwTZZWVx pic.twitter.com/oI6FGav6ca— Labour Vault (@LabourVault) April 23, 2020
― gyac, Friday, 24 April 2020 14:15 (four years ago) link
oh no
― He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 April 2020 14:58 (four years ago) link
Forensic and erotic, very powerful
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Friday, 24 April 2020 15:35 (four years ago) link
The answer to the question ‘where is Dominic Cummings?’ remains ‘the last place you’d want him to be’.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-dominic-cummings-on-secret-scientific-advisory-group-for-covid-19
― ShariVari, Friday, 24 April 2020 17:36 (four years ago) link
Starmer_fuckoff.gif
― Matt DC, Friday, 24 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link
As the comments say the unions will need to stand firm. Now or never moment:
You’re fucking kidding me pic.twitter.com/zcweoX1afO— Tom Williams (@shirleymush) April 24, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 April 2020 11:59 (four years ago) link
A bit of militancy, as a treat
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 April 2020 12:00 (four years ago) link
Found myself reading the Wikipedia page of Fenner Brockway last night and my God, he lived more in one lifetime than most of us could manage in ten. Feel the need to read something proper about him. Think I’ll go visit his statue in Red Lion Square when this is over (incidentally also one of the places where Cromwell’s disinterred and desecrated corpse was allegedly buried).
― gyac, Sunday, 26 April 2020 08:58 (four years ago) link
In Brockway's science fiction novel, Purple Plague (1935), a sea liner is quarantined for a decade as a result of a plague. An egalitarian society emerges.[11]
― imago, Sunday, 26 April 2020 09:06 (four years ago) link
writing a book called '98 Not Out' aged 98 seems a surefire way of ensuring you'll miss the ton tbh
― imago, Sunday, 26 April 2020 09:10 (four years ago) link
The public have made great sacrifices to make lockdown work. They deserve to be part of an adult conversation about what comes next. We are engaging constructively to protect our country and, to that end, I offer a series of considerations for the Prime Minister in my letter. pic.twitter.com/n8ubsUGT8M— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) April 26, 2020
Talking of disinterred and desecrated corpses...
"They deserve to be part of an adult conversation"
Ah one from the bottom shelf from the spineless melt-rectum repository of centrist cliches ...so forensic I'm probably never going to register to vote again in my life!
― calzino, Sunday, 26 April 2020 09:16 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Sunday, 26 April 2020 09:20 (four years ago) link
is keir inviting us to partake in phone sex
― He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 26 April 2020 09:53 (four years ago) link
not read Dunty's erotic piece on him yet, but no doubt phone sex with him would be ... earth shattering!
― calzino, Sunday, 26 April 2020 09:57 (four years ago) link