Mostly Apolitical Thread for Discussing/Venting our Rational/Irrational COVID-19 Fears and Experiences in 2020

I've a close friend who a month ago invested (first time!) in airline stocks, anticipating some kind of pay day when "this" is over.

Air travel ain’t going back to how it was. Whether that correlates with the stock price of airlines is unclear to me

Will the changes you anticipate in air travel be due to individuals choosing to travel less, businesses reducing business travel, governments regulating free movement more closely, or some combination of these? Of the three factors I named, I think the first effect will fade within a couple of years, the second is likely to have the most repercussions, and I don't think the third is very likely to happen.

I think a lot of remote-working tech has completely outstrippped senior exec's ability to keep up and they've had their eyes opened in recent months to the fact that it's not Skype and ICQ out there any longer.

Their long-held "people need to be in the office where I can see them" and "you better get on a plane" is going to be replaced for many with "how many expensive buildings do we actually need?" and "travel over my dead body"

xpost picking up what Ed is saying, if you just want a non-employer retirement account, you could just set up a Roth IRA quickly online. You could leave all the money as cash if you don't want to purchase anything at this time or feel like you might want to withdraw it, but at least the account is there if you change your mind.

https://reallifemag.com/grounded/

Business travel is pointless and where, presumably, all the money is made, and I don't know why it would ever go back to previous levels, surely hardly anybody likes it or views it as a perk

Flying is an already-miserable experience made more miserable by security theater, maybe this time next year the airlines will be selling anywhere-in-the-US tickets for $49 or something to get people to come back but a year to get used to not flying places or going anywhere at all might be enough for some people to get out of the habit.

If I hadn't moved across the country from my parents I probably would never fly at all, covid or not

That's a nice read. I wonder if there's going to be a business to be had in offering first-class Zoom or telepresence suites, like internet cafes of old.

just pop in The Shining dynamic background like i do, boom job done

I would love for Djokovic to retire because of his refusal to be vaccinated. I would love never have to see his stupid face again.

― Yerac, Monday, April 20, 2020 5:25 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^
Rafa 4ever.

xps I admit I'm cynical, but I can't believe enough bosses will be willing to lose the ability to harangue their employees in-person. Really "make sure" that paycheck is getting earned. (I still look at WFH as this amazing luxury for most of humanity...)

my company's travel budget had already been plunging for years. i used to travel every 3 months. but even last year's Philippines one month trip is going to be a thing of the past.

I used to love business travel but IMO its the first thing that needs to fuck off in all of this.

because how often is it necessary?

so the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation projections are dumb and should be ignored, right?

https://vm.tiktok.com/7NrtEG/

I'm missing going swimming so much and haven't been since 4th Feb. I keep having dreams about swimming pools. I had one the other night that I was in the Falkland Islands but in dreamland it was like a Devon village but in tropical conditions and every time I kept trying to jump into this beautiful swimming pool there was somebody/something preventing me and I woke up before I got a chance for a dream swim, got robbed.

I had an anxiety dream last night that I was in the lobby of a big office building and a proper artillery bombardment began that I could see through the glass outside, accompanied by the certainty of the arrival of ground troops who would shoot whoever they saw. Panic and fear to the max. It was all closing in around me. I threw myself on the ground and held my hands up.

I would love for Djokovic to retire because of his refusal to be vaccinated. I would love never have to see his stupid face again.

― Yerac, Monday, April 20, 2020 5:25 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^
Rafa 4ever.

― Fetch the Bolt Thrower (PBKR), Monday, 20 April 2020 22:57 (yesterday) link

Imagine if Fed keeps his record because the next 4-6 slams are cancelled.

So much for KIP, just had my first argument of the lockdown. You see, once upon a time there was a nice big post office on Holloway Road, staffed by helpful, knowledgeable people who were public servants, because Royal Mail hadn't been privatized yet. Then someone decided it would be a good idea to shut down that nice big post office on Holloway Road and open a shitty, tacky piece of crap (with a cafe added) on Seven Sisters Road. And the staff in this shitty, tacky piece of crap on Seven Sisters Road were uniformly rude, ignorant and apathetic because it was now merely a money making venture - and a monopoly in the area, to boot - and every single time I've had the misfortune to have to use the place I've got into a stand up row with whoever is serving me.

Anyway, so I had to go there today to collect an item - an item that should have been delivered on Friday but wasn't because the postman didn't bother ringing the door buzzer and which couldn't be sent to the local delivery office because the local delivery office has been shut down for the duration of the lockdown, despite the postman marking on the non-delivery card that that's where it was. To add to the stress of queueing up outside the post office for ages while legions of the idiots who frequent Seven Sisters Road paraded up and down, apparently in complete ignorance of the concept of social distancing, inches from my face, I kept thinking, "This won't be here and I'm going to get into an argument today".

When I got into the place the man behind the counter looks at the card and says, "It's not here, it's at the delivery office, don't you have a tracking number?" I pointed out that the delivery office is shut and shouldn't he know about that fact? Working in a post office and all? Then he said the fateful words, "No need to get angry about it", and that was the end of it really! Like, don't tell me if I can be angry or not - and, anyway, I wasn't especially angry until you told me not to be angry! Eventually I had to get my phone out and search for the email confirming that the item had indeed been sent to their shithole of a post office. He disappeared for a bit of theatrical rummaging about - though he'd already rummaged once and failed to find it. "Am I allowed to be angry now?", I said. "Phone the number on the card", he said - the same number I wasted an hour on last week and never got through to a single, solitary human being. So, I suppose I just have to keep going down there and hoping it'll turn up! Looking forward to it!

Ah, that's lousy, man - a perfect storm of annoying shite.

loads of parcels here seemingly going missing i.e. not being delivered at all because we're ALWAYS IN!

Two instances of mail getting errnousely delivered to me instead of ppl w/ somewhat similar addresses recently. I'm sure postmen are overworked rn, I bring the stuff to where it should be but feel slightly worried about it.

I'm only slightly miffed at the postman because, as you say, they're overworked at the best of times.

Also I hate Seven Sisters Road, the pavements were designed for when the population was half what it is now, so it is physically impossible to someone to pass you by at a distance of six feet - unless they walk in the road, which they can't because the of all the parked cars and because there is still so much fucking traffic!

we often get blank delivery notices through the door (mostly by the people who aren't the post office but another one of those that have popped up recently, yellow / orange cards). there are 10 flats behind the main door but the card is literally blank, no name, no flat number.

xp Having just been on the other end of it on my bike, there is still so much fucking traffic!

(xps) LOL, yes, "We missed you 'cos you weren't in" doesn't really cut it these days.

I live above a post office, and it just reopened yesterday, and fuck are there a lot of people outside.

The post office here had a security guard posted at the entrance yesterday for the first time. I was wondering if someone who works there tested positive, although I can't see what connection that would have to a security guard.

This one has a security guard too now.

My local one has harassed staff yelling at customers to observe the distancing guidelines and generally having a terrible time of it. Then again it's managed by the dodgiest fucker you've ever seen so not too surprising. Seven Sisters Road is a nightmare yes, and the staff in that post office are rude to a Music & Video Exchange degree.

I feel like most post office operations should be things that *could* get done without a retail office, just a carrier who picks stuff up, but I guess the infrastructure isn't there yet

(xp) I did make sure I told the guy the post office in Holloway Road shutting down and this one opening up was the worst thing that had ever happened to the area.

... I'm sure he's heard it before dozens of times and I'm sure he doesn't give a flying fuck anyway.

In France at least, post offices house banks too (La Banque Postale), which is the easiest bank to get an account at if you're foreign / without a fixed address. So I gather that's a lot of what the lines are at the one downstairs. On the day that benefit checks are direct deposited (around the 5th of each month), the lines at the ATMs at this post office go down the block. These ATMs were boarded up until last week, but things are getting going again, for better or for worse.

oh yeah I forgot about that aspect. yeah I had to open up a bank account in france once, it took me months.

for most other banks (even most of the new online-only ones) you need an address to get a bank account, but to get a bank account you need an address.

er, to get an address you need a bank account

I would love for Djokovic to retire because of his refusal to be vaccinated. I would love never have to see his stupid face again.

― Yerac, Monday, April 20, 2020 5:25 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^
Rafa 4ever.

― Fetch the Bolt Thrower (PBKR), Monday, 20 April 2020 22:57 (yesterday) link

Imagine if Fed keeps his record because the next 4-6 slams are cancelled.

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, April 21, 2020 12:12 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

now find out that djoker's wife is a 5G'er as well. he'll end up getting vaccinated for the sake of his career the same way he apparently caved on his no surgery stance

wow i used to think djoker was hot-headed asshole, had no idea about the anti-vax stuff, go feds 4ever

he is referred to as jokey smurf in this house because I refuse to say his name.

My mom hates him and the nickname in her house is Jock Itch.

My partner hates him too just because he hates his terrible attitude. Didn't realize he was 1) anti-vax and 2) widely reviled!
ha

i feel like it was a controversial sentiment on the wimbledon or us open thread. I don't care. I cannot stand to watch him play.

finally snapped last night and gave myself a haircut, and considering the last time I did this resulted in my having to get a buzz cut for a year, I think it turned out pretty well

Not necessarily COVID-19 directly related, but a bit of an etiquette question that I'm curious about. I ordered something back in late February and it was shipped out mid-March, just as everything was breaking open and shutting down. I got sent a USPS tracking number for it and it shows as "in transit to the next destination" since March 20th now. Totally fine with being patient given the state of the world and esp shipping, that said, no status update in over a month makes me think it might be lost or something. Would it be an asshole move to kindly reach out to the tiny shop that shipped it to see if they could check in with USPS on it from their end?

idk how they are going to have an easier time reaching the USPS than you are, i would just try to reach out to USPS myself if i had the tracking #

three nearest laundromats are closed

i mean, i don't blame them, but ತ ಎತ

xpost - yeah, I contacted USPS myself, still waiting for a response, but last time I had an issue with a package that seemed to get lost they made me have the sender contact them. We'll see. Thanks.

Not necessarily COVID-19 directly related, but a bit of an etiquette question that I'm curious about. I ordered something back in late February and it was shipped out mid-March, just as everything was breaking open and shutting down. I got sent a USPS tracking number for it and it shows as "in transit to the next destination" since March 20th now. Totally fine with being patient given the state of the world and esp shipping, that said, no status update in over a month makes me think it might be lost or something. Would it be an asshole move to kindly reach out to the tiny shop that shipped it to see if they could check in with USPS on it from their end?

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, April 22, 2020 1:47 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I've been ordering shit from all over and it's getting here pretty in a reasonable time frame and with few tracking irregularities. Definitely sounds like the package is lost or something.