dear god the stphn bsh article on the leaks is some next level dishonest sly shithousery, always cheering to be reminded how totally bankrupt the journalistic class is
― ogmor, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:21 (four years ago) link
Not sure Scotland's figures are great but they're much better than England and Wales, I think - but then the Stereophonics haven't played there in a while.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:24 (four years ago) link
WHO says there's no evidence to date that mosquitos can spread it
(i imagine they're not being complacent abt this as they do spread many other viruses)
― mark s, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:29 (four years ago) link
More evidence for crapness of country:
imagine living in a country where this man was able to rise to a position of any prominence pic.twitter.com/Lo03oGd3F9— stefan mohamed's official business tweets account (@stefmowords) April 14, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:45 (four years ago) link
Toby fuckin Young moving the debate forward one agreeable comment at a time
xp!
Toby never lets you down does he pic.twitter.com/nz6mz5c89d— James Doleman (@jamesdoleman) April 14, 2020
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:45 (four years ago) link
xps I <3 stphn bsh but that article was a bit much, it's true. it's nice to remember even the ones you like are not on your side
(I'm not even a Labour member and this whole thing has been thoroughly depressing, at an already thoroughly depressing time, sigh)
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:48 (four years ago) link
Bush also worships Cameron and considers him a proper impressive big beast or at least that is the impression I got when he was reading his biography.
― calzino, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:52 (four years ago) link
pretty sure Toby Young gets off on being abused
― où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:53 (four years ago) link
― He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:54 (four years ago) link
yes bush is always worth reading but when it gets too close to the battles he's invested in the analysis suddenly becomes a lot less dispassionate and reliable. in a way this failure to maintain objectivity is heartening, gives lie to the myth of the impartial commentator
― ogmor, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:54 (four years ago) link
― He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:56 (four years ago) link
sorry for his loss :(
― où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:59 (four years ago) link
the interest in what these craaazy toxic RW know-nothing columnists are going on about by ppl who should know better reminds me of that time it transpired the top two referers to the [streamfrot] site were the BBC and guardian
― ogmor, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:00 (four years ago) link
We have some friends who work in at-home care, and one who works in a care home. The former have been given PPE, apparently from the government somehow. The latter have received absolutely nothing, this article sums up their experience, except it hasn't yet broken out at their workplace.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/14/are-people-dispensable-care-home-manager-tells-how-third-of-residents-have-died-from-covid-19
This person is 50 years old and a cancer survivor, she would almost certainly be considered at risk.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:06 (four years ago) link
reading a lot of comments like this from young BAME activists
The thought that keeps going around my head is “if this is how they talk about the first black female MP, how do they talk about your friends, you and community?” Broken for Diane, Dawn and every MP subjected to vile anti-blackness from the Party they were fighting for— 🌹 (@maliharez) April 13, 2020
― gyac, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:07 (four years ago) link
I wonder if they’ll try to lift the restrictions on St George’s Day...
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 16:23 (four years ago) link
Rabbi Avraham Pinter, an influential Orthodox Jewish leader from Stamford Hill, London, with close ties to the British Labour Party, passed away from coronavirus. He was the first rabbi to become a local councillor (in Hackney borough council) in 1982. pic.twitter.com/ZvSk11nOCj— Jacob Kornbluh (@jacobkornbluh) April 13, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/14/coronavirus-uk-ireland-delay
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 17:36 (four years ago) link
That's a write up of that Ireland-UK thread that has been posted here
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
Ffs another bloody milquetoast who won't shame The Stereophonics for being cack as well as being evil coordinators of superspreading!
― calzino, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link
finally got round to reading that 'the hammer and the dance' piece that everyone was talking about wrt covid management (mainly because i was wondering what post-lockdown wd look like), and boy did the UK mess up. I guess it must have already been linked a few times around ilx, but it's damning of the mitigation strategy just on the principle that when you lack knowledge you want to buy yourself as much time to buy ventilators, create icu beds etc. it does make you wonder how well the UK will be able to conduct the 'dance' of tracing, localised lockdowns and periodic escalation and relaxation of measures, via the app, which I assume is going to be released fairly soon.
it is of course almost inescapable not to feel that the main reason the US and the UK have been slower is a fear of state intervention into supporting the economy greater than the fear of a lot of people dying. the mute and kittenish media are a fucking disgrace for not slamming the government daily on this.
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link
1000s of people dying because of this lot being complacent and dumb during a crucial stage of the virus becoming widespread and some of our media classes are talking about how good Rishi's performance was and how trust is being restored in the UK govt because of C- 19. Failed country.
― calzino, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link
Pesto has been the worst i've ever seen him on this from the start. And today he's outdone himself + wrote a piece in The Spectator where he is very concerned that furloughing workers might create widespread govt welfare dependency!
― calzino, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link
This is why he was so concerned about hiding who is donors were, I expected a load of arseholes but this really is a who's who of utter arseholes https://t.co/gGfYXxNbyS— Loki (@Lokinash06) April 14, 2020
this should been disclosed months ago, lame membership feebs would have probably still voted for him but at least we could have shamed them some more!
― calzino, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 20:33 (four years ago) link
Why do they all have hard ons for this jug-eared jackanapes Rishi Sunak?
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 20:34 (four years ago) link
Keir Starmer received £25,000 in donations to his leadership bid from the publisher of Mail Online (Daily Mail), Martin Clarke as well as a major banker, and a litany of people with connections to Tony Blair.
the deleted tweet
― calzino, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link
xp white centrists with shit taste imo, I mean he might be a lot further right, but Ranil Jayawardena exists!Ahem.
― gyac, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link
Pueyo is an utter tool, and that piece is not quite riddled but is certainly pretty heavily laden with egregious holes, especially around mutation and magical thinking about how much you can “prepare” during suppression. It doesn’t mean he’s wrong about the UK situation being alarmingly bad but Christ I’d prefer to hear from epidemiologists and doctors rather than tech bros and historians. There is no way we are “back to normal in a couple of weeks”, he’s either lying or panicking. The Chinese hammer he adores lasted months. And unless they close their borders, they’ll reimport it as signs show they are. Either way, a couple of weeks aren’t enough to do any of the magic prep he talks about. I’m pretty sure it’s bullshit, utterly made-up graphs included. There’s no quick end to this. (That Ireland piece is another case in point: people here are dying of this at twice the rate of people in Ireland? Among the reply guys were some (overworked) medical types pointing out that the UK also has twice the number of people over 65 (~20% UK pop vs 11% Ireland). Which unlike population density does have a cast-iron correlation with mortality.)
― stet, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link
Thanks stet - country by country comparisons are difficult and a twitter thread is clearly not the space for it. There are plenty of lines in which to attack the government's response.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link
It is really hard for me to understand in particular why ICU isn’t full. Are people dying too quickly? Are protocols keeping them out of it? Age profile? The guy from the P&J tried to ask today but his Zoom mysteriously failed.
― stet, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:24 (four years ago) link
Could be the threshold for admittance to ICU, could also be simple staffing shortage. The more patients in ICU that a nurse has to look after, the worse outcomes could be. Especially with a condition that deteriorates as fast as this one, and with a procedure as delicate as ventilation.
― gyac, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:43 (four years ago) link
It is really hard for me to understand in particular why ICU isn’t full. Are people dying too quickly?
My guess is yes. Many are. Lots of them in care homes. I also think we haven't peaked, that we have slightly slowed new cases with distancing, and we probably won't be asking about all the spare beds and ventilators soon.Italy filled a lot of hospitals with elderly people who were unlikely to be saved. We asked their families to agree Respect (DNR) forms in advance and left the care homes to it.
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:47 (four years ago) link
I also just remembered the letters certain people are getting from their local authorities, asking them to sign a DNR. Quite possible lots of people aren’t even being admitted?
― gyac, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link
Pueyo is an utter tool, and that piece is not quite riddled but is certainly pretty heavily laden with egregious holes, especially around mutation and magical thinking about how much you can “prepare” during suppression. It doesn’t mean he’s wrong about the UK situation being alarmingly bad but Christ I’d prefer to hear from epidemiologists and doctors rather than tech bros and historians. There is no way we are “back to normal in a couple of weeks”, he’s either lying or panicking. The Chinese hammer he adores lasted months. And unless they close their borders, they’ll reimport it as signs show they are. Either way, a couple of weeks aren’t enough to do any of the magic prep he talks about. I’m pretty sure it’s bullshit, utterly made-up graphs included. There’s no quick end to this.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 06:11 (four years ago) link
I’m sorry, lads. I know there is a pandemic going on, but I think we all deserve a laugh at these cunts.
In one case a senior Labour staffer had sent themselves their entire WhatsApp conversation history by email - so the researchers were able to access group chats of colleagues at Labour HQ discussing their opinions about Corbyn and Labour’s performance at the 2017 general election— Shehab Khan (@ShehabKhan) April 14, 2020
― gyac, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 08:05 (four years ago) link
senior labour staffer, thank u for yr service
― He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 08:10 (four years ago) link
Tommy Corbyn for next leader imo.
Shoutout to my most loyal supporter @GuidoFawkes! Always lurking around like a turd that won't flush. We have indeed shipped our first orders and look forward to many more 🥳 check out https://t.co/ZTVVTVD0Od and use code '555HEMP' at the checkout to get 5% off and 5% donated ✌️ pic.twitter.com/1d2nbRrWE3— Tommy Corbyn (@TommyCorbyn) April 14, 2020
― gyac, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 08:19 (four years ago) link
Beyond everything else the cast-iron reason why Starmer shouldn't even consider rehiring any of them is that they are self-evidently idiots.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 08:46 (four years ago) link
rather than pressing the govt on the disastrous PPE/testing failure or that currently 1.5 million people are in serious food poverty Kier wants to know how they are going forward post lockdown. They must love having such forensic opposition in a quivering comedy muppet voice.
― calzino, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:01 (four years ago) link
The independent investigation will be “professionally, independently and quickly done”, he says. “We absolutely have to turn our back on factionalism. That was the whole purpose of my leadership campaign.”— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) April 15, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:03 (four years ago) link
he needs to resign immediately!
― calzino, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:04 (four years ago) link
RLB would be so ruthless with these people :-(
Starmer isn't (and there might be an embarrassing court case or two) but it's...a really, really good opportunity to flush a lot of turds.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:08 (four years ago) link
if he had a decent bone in his body he would be sickened to be associated with some of these ugly arseholes, but unfortunately he's Sir Kier Starmer.
― calzino, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:11 (four years ago) link
Tommy Corbyn is being played by Elijah Wood
https://d2yoo3qu6vrk5d.cloudfront.net/images/20170614115223/tommy-corbyn-y-elijah-wood-482x320.jpg
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:14 (four years ago) link
bizarre the idea that 'we will turn our back on factionalism' as though political parties were not ways for groups of people to forward their political ideals. what is the labour party supposed to be, a firm? The issue is not with 'factionalism', it's with corrupt misuse of time, resources and failure to comply with standards within the organisation. Even worse its about evidence of bullying, harassment, and use of racist language and other slurs which do damage to the reputation of the party. This seems obvious.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:16 (four years ago) link
xp the three Corbyn sons all look like him but in very different ways. Strong genes there.Elijah Wood Should ask Tommy Corbyn to play him tbf.
Fuckin ludicrous tack he's taking. 10,000+ dead & we've not even reached peak. Frontline workers begging for proper lifesaving equipment for themselves & patients. Gov measures don't cover the subsistence of millions of workers. And this nobody is talking about ending lockdown? https://t.co/ykfWY0b4lC— michael (@Sisyphusa) April 15, 2020
― gyac, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:18 (four years ago) link
also lol that virgin is now skimming 4.5% off donations to the nhs after years of tax dodging and suing the nhs. the state is such an obvious cashcow for these despots, its strange that any of them claim to want a small one. you'd think they'd be worried about emptying the well for their limitless greed.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:19 (four years ago) link
politics is all about factions/self-interest groups, this simpering "labour family" bullshit from the melts is a myth and always has been.
― calzino, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:19 (four years ago) link
it's been 2 months and I still haven't heard anything about my Bereavement Support Payment application, I assume that is handled by the same department that does Universal Credit. I suppose I'd better attempt to phone them because you have to apply within 3 months of death, maybe the Jobcentre lost my application or something. And they are only going to get busier over the next few weeks
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:19 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:21 (four years ago) link