Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

I agree completely, I was thinking more like stepping aside entirely, for the lols

― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, April 13, 2020

I know, I was playing along.

Interesting and at least encouraging:

the former vice president announced that his and Sanders’s teams would convene six joint working groups devoted to various policy areas.

who knows, given time Biden's staff might even learn how to run a decent campaign

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— libcom.org (@libcomorg) April 13, 2020

I suggest you give up revolutionary hero worship, become a community organizer, and rise to the rank of trusted, but humble, leader through the example of your own personal sacrifice and commitment. Then report back here.

hysterical meltdowns over this on one generally reasonable FB political group I'm in from Bernie supporters who previously never posted a single thing, including statements like "biden is worse than trump" and "I don't want to trump to win but I want biden to lose catastrophically". THe worst 5-10% of Bernie bros are having a day.

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— travis f welch (@TravisFWelch) April 12, 2020

Sure, and how many phone calls are Trump supporters making on behalf of Trump today? This is not an active phone banking phase of the election rn, so the question is framed stupidly to make a disingenuous point.

That's just good times on twitter don't sweat

zing culture

hey by the way, fuck Joe Biden, he sucks shit

That's zing kulcha

who is travis f welch? because he looks like 10000 other smug bernie supporters (glasses, facial hair, smug grin, the only thing missing is his hand pensively on his stupid chin)

akm, we're not supposed to touch our chins these days

good thing no one on this thread is ever smug

he has glasses!

amazing how smug people pour acid in their eyes to show off how poorly they can see

I put jelly on my shoulder and kiss culprits.

glasses!

Surprised ILX libs are going to leapfrog democratic socialism straight into Khmer nationalism.

icmi, Pareene:

"The nomination of Biden will ensure that, for the foreseeable future, the party will be run by people who haven’t had a new idea since 1992."

https://newrepublic.com/article/157265/democrats-decide-again-not-try-anything-new

no glasses or facial hair at this here message board

I suggest you give up revolutionary hero worship

revolutionary lol

should be xyzzzz’s new dn

ilxor revolution lol hero = LBJ

yeah he was no stalin

hysterical meltdowns over this on one generally reasonable FB political group I'm in from Bernie supporters who previously never posted a single thing, including statements like "biden is worse than trump" and "I don't want to trump to win but I want biden to lose catastrophically". THe worst 5-10% of Bernie bros are having a day.

― akm

can i just say how much i dislike the word "hysterical"?

yep it’s time for that word to die

Sorry, I can't stop this feeling. Can't stop this fire.

agreed with rusho re: "hysterical"

This had me in hysterics tho'

I’m seeing way too many of my peers proudly claim that they won’t be voting for Biden in November, so I made this TikTok in response.

There is far too much at stake to vote based on what makes us feel good inside. We have lives to save — and an egomaniac to beat. #Biden2020 pic.twitter.com/wkCpcvAdy8

— Ziad Ahmed (@ziadtheactivist) April 11, 2020

(tries to imagine xyzzz "in hysterics" over that -- fails to imagine anything that does not resemble a cross between a grimace and a bad coughing fit)

(that's actually correct)

For some crazy reason no one can understand, it seems that young Ziad Ahmed has taken the same crazy position on this election that Senator Bernard Sanders (I - VT) has taken.

The young don't vote and Biden doesn't need them. Leave them to their weird hand gestures and lectures.

"No, no, I have no empathy for it, give me a break."

She’s right. https://t.co/VtJweo9Q7N

— Briahna Joy Gray (@briebriejoy) April 15, 2020

Are people really debating, now, whether they're going to vote in November?

If you think it's worth debating at all, why not leave it 6 months?

Performative handwringing in the hopes of extracting concessions from the party of Michael Bloomberg.

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— Margaret Kimberley (@freedomrideblog) April 14, 2020

Setting aside that having to choose the least of two evils is a shitty situation to be in (but is very often the situation voters find themselves), and not wishing to downplay the seriousness of the sexual assault accusations that are dogging Biden, is he a bad enough candidate that another four years of Trump would be a better option? Is having, as you say, "the party of Michael Bloomberg" in power worse for the country, for its vulnerable people, for the world at large, than another four years of the Republicans? Is there any sense that a Democratic government would be easier to nudge in a progressive direction and hold to account than a Republican government, and would act in a less malign way? Is there or has there been any evidence in the last four years, and especially in the light of how the Coronavirus has been mishandled in the US, that the lesser of two evils might actually be substantially lesser of those two evils?

I realise this overwrought paragraph isn't as fun as a zingy tweet cut'n'pasted into the thread.

I don't think anyone believes that. It's a way of shootin' the shit during dark times.

Okay. I mean, I guess that's what it is, and I don't mean to "progressive-shame" anyone here. My own politics are progressive, and Biden definitely wouldn't have been my choice of candidate. But the choice seems quite stark, and I'm terrified of another four years of this.

And I guess for me the party of Biden is also the party of AOC and a thousand other bright lights who can take the government in a positive direction.

^Alfred otm and I may be very wrong but I highly doubt anyone here who lives in a swing state isn’t going to pull the lever for Joe.

he party of Biden is also the party of AOC

^^^ THIS. What I said last week about the Dems existing as a genuine coalition party at this point.

stevie, fine post but in

having to choose the least of two evils is a shitty situation to be in (but is very often the situation voters find themselves)

I think that "very often" needs to be "always."

Until we're actually voting up-or-down on a wish list that includes single-payer health care, universal basic income, abolition of private prisons, and (of course) firing billionaires into the sun? EVERY election will be lesser-of-evils for most people here.

Of course there will occasionally be candidates that we broadly like, and can happily vote FOR. But until they can attain and use real power, we will - all of us, pretty much always - be choosing among sucky options.

I hate the portion of tHe dIsCoUrsE that sometimes appears to equate "being okay with voting for Biden" as agreeing with the premise "better things aren't possible."

And I guess for me the party of Biden is also the party of AOC...

AFAICT there are way, way more Bidens than AOCs in the party.