Better Call Saul

Howard is the other link between old Jimmy and new Saul. I have a feeling he's going to eat it.

And/or she might get kidnapped or have some other close brush that scares her into at least trying to run far away from all this madness. Admittedly I haven't missed Chuck as much as expected, but pretty this show without her would just be grim old balls.
I'd like to see a (mostly?) pre-Slippin' Jimmy prequel, where she's maybe new to the firm, mentored by Chuck, in whom the cracks are starting to appear or spread--still got his wife, even (good character, good actress), and good ol' Howard in there, and some ongoing experience, like with a case, gradually makes the idealistic young attorney so anxious that her more shaded tendencies emerge---so we know she's not just the wide-eyed innocent who is turned by Jimmy-to-Saul, as his own darker side takes over---I mean, I think this was always evident to some extent, on some level---but would be good to get more show-not-tell, on that kind of downward path that BB and BCS have (mostly) been so good at cutting and tracking.

pretty *sure* this show

love the idea that we keep going back in time with various characters introduced from each spin off. 2032 should see The Adventures of Howard's Grandmom in the Depression

I would love the next one to be Gus Fring's formative years

Once upon a time in Chile, His family is ooo Allende---and then...

yes!

Leave It to Badger, obviously.

lol

Which one is Badger?

Jesse Pinkman buddy in BB

Howard is the other link between old Jimmy and new Saul. I have a feeling he's going to eat it.

― Miami weisse (WmC), Thursday, April 9, 2020 10:12 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk, feels like jimmy severed that tie with his outburst in episode 7.

Maybe, but it feels incomplete to me.

I wouldn’t mind Howard dying in a sonny corleone manner

the twins really have great fashion sense

anyway the one thing that made no sense to me was the sniper rifle blowing the truck off the road and causing it to flip over 7 times, that was some real cartoon shit

I suspect Fargo's Kitchen twins (who also dress sporty, never talk, and are really scary) were created with the Salamanca twins in mind.

http://www.sbs.com.au/programs/sites/sbs.com.au.programs/files/styles/body_image/public/fargo_bradandtoddmann_202_1222_cl_f2.jpg?itok=ApynrFkU&mtime=1470010929

kim = warren-to-biden
jimmy/saul = probably tulsi
mike = bernie-to-trump
gus, lalo = trump
howard = bloomberg
hank = a never-trumper, probably a romney guy
nacho = doesn’t vote, some of his friends are into bernie tho

gus is a biden guy, wants a return to normalcy

yeah I can see that

Huell = A2M

chuck was a never-trumper too

The thing I liked most was underlining the two sides of a coin duality of Mike & Jimmy/Saul ... and it has a real world Looney Tunes quality, like Mike the sheepdog & Jimmy the wolf
all that shit with him trying to dig the hole with the license plate etc

Mike’s explanation of his selflessness obviously affects Jimmy in the moment but I like to think we see Jimmy struggle with the weight of that notion, how the fuck do you even DO that? Can I do that? Do I want to do that? I did that with Chuck & look where it got me.

I found it kinda revealing in it’s own slow burn way.

good content kev

yeah all the never trumpers are like chuck

https://i.imgur.com/QORSqW3.jpg

lol. that would have been great

haha

anyway my prediction is that Lalo sent those guys with the intention of killing Saul (a guy who knows too much & keeps asking for more money). the idea that he didn't have a guy to inconspicuously pick up money in the middle of the desert seems suspicious to me, you'd think a cartel like that would have a dozen people like that. hope its not true though since that means pretty bad things for Kim

otoh a guy like Saul is invaluable to a cartel like that who knows. of course we do know by the time Breaking Bad starts he's an accessory of Gus/Mike

um, didn't we establish at the start of the episode that the dude who jumped on his cell phone and said "yeah, i got something if you want it" was just selling information to a rival gang about where they could get seven million dollars if they follow where the money was going?

In the pre-credits sequence at the chop shop or whatever it was? I forgot about that but it sounds truer than these other theories

I don’t know if it was clear. Maybe I missed something but wasn’t the place the twins got the money from connected to the chop shop?

Either way how Jimmy explains this to Lalo is gonna be something...he’s looking for a guy named Mike isn’t he?

He’s like a cucaracha that one, he’ll come up with something

Didn't see that--who was the guy, how did he know? One of Lalo's contacts on/from the Inside? Lalo would know he couldn't trust such guys, so making use of untrustworthiness? Re Nacho,"He's good for a lot of things," but maybe not w 7 mil--he trust Saul not to take the money and run, eh? Because Saul would be more scared of the cartel? Nacho knows better than to try it, because he does know them better. So, using Saul seems that much more suspect.

he'll come up with something This is a test?

it was the start of the episode, prior to the credits. the twins come into a front, go into a locked room, pick up seven mill and leave. As they do, a guy who works there gets on a flip phone and says "hey. i got something for him, if he's still interested."

incidentally, the actor playing lalo is so on point

good spot, I did see it but it clearly just went in one ear and out the other...

Yeah, it’ll lead to mistrust between everyone...

decided howard is actually a steyer supporter

Considering you know Jimmy's going to live--you don't know that with Kim, but it seemed too early and wrong--that last scene was as unbearably tense as could be. Now I have to go ponder the significance of His Girl Friday.

She asked Lalo all the right questions, and I think she'll eventually come up with the answer: of course he could have set it up differently. This was a test. "We gotta lonnng way to go."

Fuuuck me that final scene was like Jimmy & Kim doing Viktor & Giselle for your life

The crazy thing is even though i know it, and i have seen it over & over again, it is crazy that KimALSO has that insane 5th gear where she can lie even better than she can tell the truth.

god I love this show

Caught the last scene again a few hours later...one of the show's best ever. You have to suspend disbelief a little--talking circles around a murderous drug middleman probably not so smooth in real life; very Breaking Bad, Walter used to do it all the time--but you do, it's so good.

I found it was easier to suspend disbelief in this episode, at least more than I would have to when Walt would talk himself out of it. I don't think Lalo believed them in the least, but I think he weighed his odds of a) already being on a bail for a murder in town and, b) possibly pissing off Fring even more when he doesn't have a lot of resources on this side of the border, coming to the conclusion that regrouping in Mexico was a better long term strategy than killing them now.

I don't think Lalo believed them in the least

When I think about Lalo's expression as he leaves, you're probably right. Based on his words to Nacho as they head out, he's clearly recalibrated.

Stressful!

Pretty sure the thing she said about not being able to trust his own people struck a nerve and is not going to play out well for Nacho.

One or both of those guys (my two favourite characters this season) is not surviving this border run.