A lot of 'rules' will be written then replaced by other ones.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 April 2020 11:51 (four years ago) link
ballooning national debt whatever happen
BoE has switched to direct finance for covid costs rather than selling gilts as of this morning, so afaict we're going to (theoretically) devalue the pound rather than increase the debt.
Pity we already had that Brexit devaluation, like.
― stet, Thursday, 9 April 2020 11:52 (four years ago) link
Tell you what, though.Remember Dominic Cummings?You'll not be seeing him again.
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Thursday, 9 April 2020 11:57 (four years ago) link
The Government's still claiming that they'll get the necessary concessions from the EU by June or walk away, so the Brexit dividend should start to kick in for the Christmas Rush!
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 9 April 2020 12:00 (four years ago) link
Andrew - the market for gilts is massive and probably wouldn't be exhausted within the duration of the crisis but if the govt really needs to keep pumping vast amounts of money in for ages then it might exceed the level of investor demand and find it difficult to continue to raise money past a certain point.
No one really knows where that line is (and it's nowhere near where Cameron and Osborne claimed it was) but exceeding it is where it might become unfeasible. This is massive area of debate though and in any case I wasn't aware of the development in Stet's post, which makes it academic really.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 April 2020 12:05 (four years ago) link
gilts are cops
― nashwan, Thursday, 9 April 2020 12:06 (four years ago) link
BAME & people on the left can say something over and over again--that's identity politics & 'unrealistic' 'extremism'. Once it's said in posh accents on the BBC, it's true.— Priyamvada Gopal (@PriyamvadaGopal) April 9, 2020
― calzino, Thursday, 9 April 2020 12:24 (four years ago) link
And, my God, you don't half notice the sheer amount of posh voices the more you watch television news and current affaurs.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 April 2020 12:46 (four years ago) link
It's probably a sign of getting old, but the number of fresh-faced twentysomething 'media commentators' with public school accents this country churns out is staggering.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 April 2020 12:49 (four years ago) link
not watched or listened to a single news broadcast since 11/12/2019 😬. emily maitlis can go fuck herself though
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Thursday, 9 April 2020 12:49 (four years ago) link
I've been trying to avoid the news since then too, but occasionally hate watch.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 April 2020 12:53 (four years ago) link
You'll have missed the number of vaguely famous singer types that are making "appropriate" song covers, for the download, for the NHS or whatever. From "Somewhere over the rainbow" to "We'll meet again" …..
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:15 (four years ago) link
waiting on the Colonel Abrams reissue tbh
― a slobbering sombrero moment (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:16 (four years ago) link
Update from no10: – The PM had a good night and continues to improve in ICU. He’s in good spirits. Still getting standard oxygen treatment.– Is Boris a smoker? PM's official spox says "I wouldn’t know the answer but I certainly haven’t" seen the PM with a cigarette.— lukemcgee (@lukemcgee) April 9, 2020
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:17 (four years ago) link
Doc Scott 'NHS' for Xmas #1
― nashwan, Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:17 (four years ago) link
Bound 4 da Reload
― a slobbering sombrero moment (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:18 (four years ago) link
a more innocent time
The track features a sample from the theme tune to the BBC medical drama Casualty. The duo had not initially gone the correct route to clear the rights to use the Casualty theme, instead calling the BBC receptionist to tell them they were sampling it.
― force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:26 (four years ago) link
Oi, there's that Covid-19Oi, there's that Covid-19Uh-oh, there's that Covid-19Uh-oh, there's that Covid-19
etc etc
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:33 (four years ago) link
sickening
A doctor who warned the prime minister that health workers urgently needed more PPE has died after being diagnosed with Covid-19.Abdul Mabud Chowdhury, 53, died after 15 days in hospital.
― force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link
Let's not politicize the death of this doctor killed by the failure of politicians
― a slobbering sombrero moment (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:00 (four years ago) link
FINALLYhttps://i.redd.it/he3zs3rysor41.png
― force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:04 (four years ago) link
Too soon
― roxymuzak otm (gyac), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:06 (four years ago) link
― force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link
Hearing about way too many Easter parties. Ffs people
― stet, Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link
― force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:26 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol
"Can everyone just stop getting coughs coughs coughs coughs coughs
― Appleman Appears: 20/2/2020. Whose Cider You On? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:50 (four years ago) link
Caaaannnnn evvverrrrrywaaaaaaaan jussst stttooooppp gyooeerrrrrrrrrrtttiing coouuuuuuugggggghhhhhhhhssss
― Appleman Appears: 20/2/2020. Whose Cider You On? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:52 (four years ago) link
It feels like one Asian doctor per day dies from covid.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-doctor-who-warned-prime-minister-about-ppe-dies-with-covid-19-11971068
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:08 (four years ago) link
“I’m not calling for precise timings” Ah that “forensic” opposition we’ve heard so much about. https://t.co/ZvfTOcPE2k— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) April 9, 2020
don't worry.. the LOTO is here to chew gum and ask ridiculously vague and stupid questions ..and he's all out of ridiculously vague and stupid questions
― calzino, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link
Good on Johnny Mc. As well as this, ASOS has been endangering its workers.
I just signed a @iwgb_clb petition: #BoycottASOS for workers' rights!. Sign here: https://t.co/mKKGKe6Ss4 Solidarity— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) April 9, 2020
― roxymuzak otm (gyac), Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link
tbh, Starmer has been weak on this throughout but anyone asking the government for a precise time this is going to end is going to look like a bigger idiot.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link
^
― stet, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:27 (four years ago) link
which begs the question why bother? obv the govt can't be talking about exit strategies when people need to stay locked down while there is probably *1000+ people dying every day.
* someone yesterday quoted the ONS saying the figures are at least 8% short
― calzino, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link
Framing whatever he is asking as 'exit strategy' is really weak when Key workers are dying rn xps
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link
yep and Starmer should be pressing them on matters which affect the poorest and most vulnerable as well
― calzino, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link
he's fucking useless
― calzino, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link
bearing in mind some of our key workers are amongst the poorest.
― calzino, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:32 (four years ago) link
I was gonna mock it earlier, it's worse than saying nothing. I hear very little of the daily press briefs, but I caught a bit last night and it seems clear to me the gov are trying to avoid the question of when lockdown might end, partly I think because to answer honestly is likely to freak a lot of people out.
― a slobbering sombrero moment (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link
He needs to be much more robust on a lot of the details, including key workers.
Asking what the government to set out what they actually want to achieve is important though. Are they banking on antibody tests? When the cases get to a managable level, are they going to start aggressively contact tracing? There is no clear public strategy - which leads to speculation that there's no strategy to begin with or that they've effectively settled on the herd immunity policy and are just soft-pedaling it so it doesn't all hit at once.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:34 (four years ago) link
clear to me the gov are trying to avoid the question of when lockdown might end, partly I think because to answer honestly is likely to freak a lot of people out.
From the leaks, it sounds like there is likely a split between people who want to end it more or less immediately and those who are prepared to wait.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:36 (four years ago) link
xp Sure, but that isn't what Kiermit asked them
― a slobbering sombrero moment (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:37 (four years ago) link
I feel almost certain Corbyn would have been asking the pertinent questions that needed asking in a more timely manner. This fucker is a waste of skin. I honestly feel if you just replaced him with a sandbag with Twat printed on it there would be a more effective LOTO.
― calzino, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:44 (four years ago) link
I agree he's basically rambling.
It's the right question asked fairly incompetently.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:45 (four years ago) link
"Asking what the government to set out what they actually want to achieve is important though. Are they banking on antibody tests? When the cases get to a managable level, are they going to start aggressively contact tracing?"
I get that but I feel like they should step back from 'strategy' type language to actually hammer at the lack of testing on any level and PPE. They should keep calling it the disaster that it is.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link
My optimistic take is that it's a long 5 years til the next election, and perhaps a placeholder avatar is what's needed while the proper movement is built up slightly out of the spotlight. Not that he is even very good at being that. The fear of course is that he's another fucking kinnock, not quite shit enough to be jettisoned, but shit enough to make everyone give up hope of real change.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link
we got corbyn a couple of years too early is basically how i break it down to an extent
― force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link
Not sure Corbyn would've asked about strategy but he would've at least got to people's safety on the job.
Starmer is doing neither.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link
that's what by timely fashion, now isn't the time to be even asking about exit strategies imo
― calzino, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link
Ashworth and Thomas-Symonds have been reasonably good on the PPE / testing stuff.
I'd prefer a much stronger response but i can understand why, in the current national climate, they'd all be wary of going in two-footed.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link
as i say, a kind of feeb mithering is actually worse than saying nothing/supporting the gov during the crisis. agree that there'll be a better time later to put the boot in.
― a slobbering sombrero moment (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:02 (four years ago) link
Corbyn was pretty ropey at asking the right questions for quite a long time and tended to ask them in a way that was easily batted away. It tended to be explained away as 'he's still learning'.
I'm not really sure what the point of the Starmer line of questioning even is except to get him on camera and remind people he exists.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link