love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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some people just don't get that politicising politics is not what adults do, it's what 6th formers with Crass stencilled on their pencil case do because they don't do serious politics!

calzino, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 18:53 (four years ago) link

lol it’s 8 o’clock and eerily quiet

Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link

#fapsforblobbyinstead

talk about a gunge tank amirite

bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link

blobby got a run-out on HIGABMNFY yesterday, fighting mr motivator.

koogs, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link

they shd wipe all the hignfy tapes and cancel it and just run the clip gyac posted in its place

mark s, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link

Fuck, I wish I hadn't turned on the news, "We're all rooting for Boris", "Uniform support for Boris", "The whole country's behind Boris". Fuck off. I'm telling you they'll be building statues to him in 10 years time.

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 21:57 (four years ago) link

As I said, the vibe is pretty reminiscent of Thatcher. Pragmatically his death is the best possible outcome.

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link

It gives me no pleasure to say this.

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 22:01 (four years ago) link

The cunt's going to be strutting around like fucking Montgomery of Alamein for the foreseeable and this nation of servile scumbags are going to lap it up.

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 22:14 (four years ago) link

Ugh. What's on Talking Pictures...

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link

lol

plax (ico), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 22:25 (four years ago) link

So how'd that clap for boris thing go? Obviously zero interest in Stoke Newington, but I'd be delighted to hear it failed in less politically obvious places, too.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 08:25 (four years ago) link

Not a peep in our safe Tory constituency - and we have a Tory councillor on the street.

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 08:28 (four years ago) link

silence in our well-to-do birmingham street, wishes for his recovery in the street whatsapp group but they'd rather clap the nurses, one confession that "i like him but i can't clap one man when blah blah"

Paperbag raita (ledge), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 08:29 (four years ago) link

Btw Daniel check out the Real England thread.

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 08:32 (four years ago) link

As I said, the vibe is pretty reminiscent of Thatcher.


It’s 7 years to the day baby 😎

Microbes oft teem (wins), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 08:36 (four years ago) link

People are going through this. Haven't done so myself.

One reading of this is that government scientists saw a catastrophe looming, but because they couldn't communicate it in terms of a governmentality, they kept it to themselves https://t.co/IEcWfGKvNk

— Will Davies (@davies_will) April 8, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 08:41 (four years ago) link

Btw Daniel check out the Real England thread.

This has the content I crave.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 08:45 (four years ago) link

Will be applauding the fact that Thatcher's still dead from the steps of my domicile at 8pm

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 08:46 (four years ago) link

When news came from China in January of a new infectious disease, Johnson had reason to believe his country was well prepared. It had some of the world’s best scientists and a well-drilled plan to deal with potentially lethal pandemics.

actually reads like typical hyperbolic boris bullshit, scary that he was probably still talking like that in early March.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 08:50 (four years ago) link

Charles Bellm, managing director of Intersurgical, a global supplier of medical ventilation products based outside London, said he has been contacted by more than a dozen governments around the world, including France, New Zealand and Indonesia. But there had been no contact from the British government.

damning stuff here and Hancock's repeated bleating that the testing travesty is all down to the lack of a domestic diagnostics industry doesn't cut the mustard.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:02 (four years ago) link

Imperial’s prediction of over half a million deaths was no different from the report by the government’s own pandemic modelling committee two weeks earlier. Yet it helped trigger a policy turn-around..

for two weeks they sat on their hands knowing a disaster was imminent and all their strategy and planning was pathetically inadequate, yes Kier's correct they've not quite done a good job here.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:10 (four years ago) link

the thing that fucking boggles my mind is that it was obvious from available data before the start of the infection in the uk that the mortality rate was at least 3%

me, a dumbass: well, let’s say half of the uk population of 67 million is infected and 3% of them die, that’s... oh fuck, a million people dead
the uk government, very smart: i love the stereophonics and horse racing, get out there and have fun folks

bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:14 (four years ago) link

think you're being quite unfair there

it was known that mortality rate was at least 3% for craven southern european types

it could never have been guessed what effect the virus was to have on strong anglo saxon stock, the data just wasnt there

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:20 (four years ago) link

EUgenics

bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:21 (four years ago) link

all the hyperbolic blather that Boris used for the Brexit election/campaign: the best scientists, best engineers, GB ingenuity blah blah... what Edgerton termed "demented revivalism". That kind of mindless bullshit is the most dangerous thing during a pandemic it seems, because Boris was still in bullshit mode during the most critical period and now we'll pay the price while that cunt hides under a ventilator.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:29 (four years ago) link

It's because the government thought they could deal with the virus while simultaneously protecting the economy and that turned to be impossible for obvious reasons.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:31 (four years ago) link

I'd presume Diagnostics is a high investment low profit industry, hence this neolib hellhole not having much of one.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:38 (four years ago) link

not much of a Diagnostics Industry in comparison to Germany I mean.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:39 (four years ago) link

Apparently it's not really got as much to do with UK vs German industrial capacity as Hancock would like to pretend, it's the publically funded side that they've allowed to go to shit.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:46 (four years ago) link

(xp) So they keep telling us - as if it's something to be proud of.

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:46 (four years ago) link

all the hyperbolic blather that Boris used for the Brexit election/campaign: the best scientists, best engineers, GB ingenuity blah blah... what Edgerton termed "demented revivalism". That kind of mindless bullshit is the most dangerous thing during a pandemic it seems, because Boris was still in bullshit mode during the most critical period and now we'll pay the price while that cunt hides under a ventilator.

I think this is probably right and is also reflected in how the government approached dealing with the public - the idea that British people are so committed to liberty and the Keep Calm and Carry On mentality, they wouldn't tolerate a lockdown. Johnson was engaging with a national myth he has been boosting throughout his career, not reality.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:50 (four years ago) link

It's such a weird line to take: "The Germans are good at producing that stuff whereas we're good at, er...." But I suppose they don't have a leg to stand on.

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:50 (four years ago) link

Toryism is a virus with many receptors, distrust of clever work being one of them.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:04 (four years ago) link

It's such a weird line to take: "The Germans are good at producing that stuff whereas we're good at, er...." But I suppose they don't have a leg to stand on.

The UK has maybe the seventh or eighth largest biotech industry in the world so while Germany's is bigger it's not as if we're slouches in that capacity. The US has the largest and they are fucking the pandemic response even worse than we are. It's a transparent tactic to disguise their own complacency and lack of preparation.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:24 (four years ago) link

having the tools at hand is meaningless if you don't bother using them

calzino, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:27 (four years ago) link

other countries like Taiwan for example took command of their industries quite fast to get what they needed in time, without worrying about the disruption to the economy.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:31 (four years ago) link

Edward Argar - junior health minister - tells Today programme there are 8,000 ventilators on order. Yet the Guardian suggested 61,000. When is an order not an order? Why is there such lack of clarity? Why is noone got a straight story?

— David Edgerton (@DEHEdgerton) April 8, 2020

they've been pulling figures out of their arseholes for weeks now, how is the public supposed to trust these slippery pieces of shit on anything?

calzino, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:46 (four years ago) link

But Boris is willing to die for us, DO YOU SEE?

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:47 (four years ago) link

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-path-speci-idUSKBN21P1VF

Dunno if this has been shared, Reuters journalists doing the good work that serious political commentators like John Rentoul think is unnecessary.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:47 (four years ago) link

speaking of which, hatt mancock is set to issue an emotional appeal for help, definitely not weeks after he should have gotten his fucking arse in gear

The health secretary, Matt Hancock, will ask industry leaders to help the UK find an antibody test that works.

Hancock will issue the plea on a conference call on Wednesday, echoing his call for help on ventilators, after the government conceded that none of the antibody tests it has are good enough for mass usage.

Biotech companies will be asked to help identify and mass-produce a fingerprick test that is accurate enough to offer to the general population to see if they have had coronavirus.

At the moment the UK is relying on laboratory tests to show whether a patient currently has coronavirus, and there is capacity to test 14,000 people a day – typically those in hospital, care homes or prisons, or NHS workers.

The government is targeting 100,000 tests a day by the end of the month, with both types – lab tests and fingerprick tests – making up the total. But it looks increasingly unlikely that an antibody test will be ready in time.

bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:48 (four years ago) link

But Boris is willing to die for us, DO YOU SEE?


the cunt can’t even organise his own death properly, get in with it ffs

bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:50 (four years ago) link

yes reuters piece is good. Tbf on Rentoul in his formative years you got impaled on a spike for the merest criticism of Vlad.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:50 (four years ago) link

Yes, that's good reporting. Damning, too.

xp to Matt

Diagnostics is a major private medicine cash cow down here you can’t leave the doctors without having blood drawn or an x-ray done. Most doctors seem to have private pathology collection centres embedded in them. There is nothing medical that can’t be turned into a profit centre.

It does seem to help when there is a crisis, but it’s only this week that private labs have come online for corona testing because none of them had invested in the bio security to do testing this dangerous, until the government gave them a bung to do it.

As ever private medicine creams off the cheap profitable stuff.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:52 (four years ago) link

yes reuters piece is good. Tbf on Rentoul in his formative years you got impaled on a spike for the merest criticism of Vlad.

LOL

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:14 (four years ago) link

Friends in Cornwall reporting the arrival of second home owners for the Easter break. Like angels of death riding Chelsea tractors.

— Linda Grant (@lindasgrant) April 8, 2020

groovypanda, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 11:16 (four years ago) link


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