2020 Democratic presidential primary thread, pt 3: life is very long

"We can do both" = we can vote in person. How can this be interpreted any other way?

Funny -- I wouldn't even say this about certain angry hot takes on this thread.

It's not my fault he's doing the facts vs feelings bit. Attack helicopter jokes are right around the corner once Boomer Brain sets in.

this thread is a fucking SUV that's on fire in the breakdown lane and half of you are insisting the vehicle is still drivable

for instance I like how Shakey merely objected to the extreme editorializing of the Biden quote being cited and now he's being accused of being Ben Shapiro and being 100% in support of people voting in person.

just...shut the fuck up.

the dumb intentionally misreading of the points made by posters simply because you "don't like them" and seeing everything as fucking binary like you're a neo-conservative in 2003 is really fucking annoying.

Ok, good luck voting on Tuesday, I'm done.

bye

Neanderthal otm

It’s embarrassing how transparently fallacious some of you chumps are

Give the non-American a chance to awaken in a few hours.

*the non-American contingent, that is

Is this what happens on day 23

or whatever it is, depending

on the 23rd day, Jesus rose from the dead, saw it wasn't lit, went back to Hell

Give the non-American contingent a chance to awaken in a few hours.

wow rude

Didn't have you in mind at all, Simes.

those slothful Canadian layabouts

oh I know I was just being a dick

actually on some of these weird WFH days I *have* been asleep around this time

that’s definitely what he said
― El Tomboto, Thursday, April 2, 2020

p much, Hall of Fame troll

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would prefer it if ILX posters would just quote things directly instead of constantly warping everything to reflect their oh-so-hot takes. the rest of the internet is already full of bad faith takes and performative anger.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 April 2020 bookmarkflaglink

No.

I agree with shakey that we should use direct quotes, I also agree with everyone that joe biden sucks

So moved.

It's true, Shakey is the only pure soul in this world

excluding the Rachael Ray restraining order, obv

I don’t mind people not using quotes if they’re actually good at being funny

i can't stop thinking about Biden implicitly blaming universal healthcare for italy's coronavirus woes. that is some cynical, evil shit on par with anything Mitch McConnell could muster. fuck him.

and i've seen it posited on this board (can't remember the thread) that it's "electorally unpopular"(?), can't remember the thread. that might actually be the case, but i think some citations are needed. also, i wonder how this certitude will stand up to unemployment reaching into the teens, or even higher.

i guess the one good thing for both parties is that when Biden absolutely eats shit in November, the question of how 'electorally unpopular' M4A is will remain a mystery.

I'm not a Biden fan, but the assumption that he'll be crushed in November seems really weird to me.

no one knows what's going to happen in November. No one knows what's going to happen next week even.

i think it's safe to predict that we won't have historically low levels of unemployment in nov

he'll be crushed because we didn't choose the guy who consistently polls much worse than him vs donald trump and couldn't garner more than 35% of support from the democratic party

ok let's assume Biden wins. point stands.

the shift to concern troll caring about biden's electability among the broz happened only after sanders lost any chance of winning the nomination, for pretty logical reasons

disagree i think they've been making that case against biden the whole primary

that's... not even close to true. not even among the "broz"

xpost

i can't stop thinking about Biden implicitly blaming universal healthcare for italy's coronavirus woes.

Uh, citation needed?

it has never been substantiated in the polling but otoh they could be right ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ what do i know but i think trump will be extremely unpopular in nov, the economy is terrible, many ppl will be dead, it will be a referendum on trump, he is very disliked already, he will probably lose. before i thought he'd win no matter what bc of the economy but this is too much imo. xxp

there's never been an 'electability' argument for picking sanders over biden that wasn't constructed on faith

"Biden will get crushed in November because he's got terrible policy positions, several sexual assault allegations, plus he can barely string together a coherent sentence" reminds me a lot of the ancient "Trump will get crushed in November because he's got terrible policy positions, several sexual assault allegations, plus he can barely string together a coherent sentence" arguments

Uh, citation needed?

https://jacobinmag.com/2020/03/joe-biden-italy-coronavirus-public-health-care-debate/

Oh, so now it's 'several' sexual assault allegations?

Oh, so now it's 'several' sexual assault allegations?

New standards. Anytime Joe Biden stands within six feet of a woman, that counts.

the point is when a majority of ppl's healthcare is tied to job that might not exist in a few months, this weird platitude among the commentariat that
M4A is unpopular might not hold up.

but awlays good to see the captain-save-a-Joes on the scene

iirc m4a is popular at least among dem primary voters why this translated into biden win idk

First of all, Jacobin should not be a source, it's not trustworthy, stop reading the Jacobin. Secondly, that still doesn't say that Biden 'blamed' corona-virus on universal health care.

Also, Biden is running on a public option, so he is also trying to get healthcare less tied to jobs.

Seriously, people are losing their fucking minds here. As long as it can hurt Biden, every lie is okay, and if anyone points out it's not true, it's melt this and 'captain-save-a-Joe' that. Also, Joe for me is Apichatpong Weerasethakul, and I will fucking fight anyone talking shit about Uncle Boonmee.

ha

xxxp re: Biden-Italy, I love how my search engine (Ecosia) gave me these other results before Jacobin

Daily Caller
Newsmax
Breitbart
Washington Times

It's no wonder Fred and most everybody else is bumbling around in the dark, their go-to sources dare not a breathe a word

Don't tell me what not to read, refute the fact or stfu

It's a direct quote

'blamed' corona-virus on universal health care

man, you're really hard to take seriously Fred.

if a GOP politician intimated that Italy's issues dealing w this was somehow tied to their healthcare system i feel like more people on this board would be calling bullshit idk

lol GOP politicians say a million more worse + more inflammatory things a day who can spend the time cataloguing and discussing them