Things you were shockingly old when you learned

MY dad was a senior systems analyst in the Apollo moonshot and taught at one of Kenya's early Universities alongside Ngugi Wa Thiongo both of which I only found out in the memorial tribute my brother posted to Facebook a couple of days ago.

Oh & that Kenya's under a 7.30 curfew since last friday.

I think Bohn may have announced it at the time . Certainly was aware of it from around the time he started.
Saw bits of the tv series at the time and probably should go back and watch it through myself. Think I intended to before so may already have it on a hardrive from a couple of years ago.

I know nothing of Ligeti or Artikulation but I am entranced at the beauty of that graphic. I vaguely recall the Slowdive image.

OK I just listened to http://www.openculture.com/2018/01/watch-gyorgy-ligetis-electronic-masterpiece-artikulation-get-brought-to-life-by-rainer-wehingers-brilliant-visual-score.html

That's so interesting. Is the graphical score actually useful, or simply a visual impression of what is happening sonically? Also, segment 210-214 (at least) sounds just like R2D2 to me.

Ah, I just learnt that the graphical score was by a different person, Rainer Wehinger.

Ah! I remember I did wonder about the Biba Kopf name at the time. (Not read/seen any Berlin Alexanderplatz though.)

The main character in Fassbinder's "Fox and His Friends" - played by Fassbinder, of course - is called Franz Biberkopf too.

The Aretha Franklin recording of 'Let It Be' was released before the Beatles version.

The Judy Collins recording of 'Both Sides, Now' was released before the Joni Mitchell version.

I'm willing to bet there are more examples like this.

Pretty sure Judy Collins also recorded "Suzanne" before Leonard Cohen.

She did "Dress Rehearsal Rag" about 5 years before Cohen did it.

Along quasi-similar lines: Davy Jones had charting solo singles before he joined the Monkees.

diana anaid is a palindrome

tbf she was Diana Ah Naid during the years she was actually mildly famous, and changed to the strict palindrome later

I just learned that Roy Orbison was a mere 52 when he died, not 72 or something like I had assumed for the last 3 decades.

whoa really? Yeah I would have guess much older

I thought he was like 70 in the Wilbury's

I thought he was like 70 too, but damn, that would've set him born in 1918.

The Aretha Franklin recording of 'Let It Be' was released before the Beatles version.

― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, April 1, 2020 12:54 PM (yesterday)

huh, i didn't know this either

on a related note, i had always assumed the stones' let it bleed was a sarcastic reference to let it be, but i can't find anything to back that up, and the stones album came out first -- so i'm guessing not?

^ Me too, I was gonna mention that. But the "Let It Be" song was basically in the can about 12 months ahead of release, during which time hipsters like the Stones probably heard about it, maybe "Let It Bleed" it was a sneaky reference

The Judy Collins recording of 'Both Sides, Now' was released before the Joni Mitchell version.

― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 12:54 (yesterday) link

Pretty sure Judy Collins also recorded "Suzanne" before Leonard Cohen.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 13:40 (yesterday) link

Let's make it a three-fer: Judy Collins' rendition of "Who Knows Where the Time Goes" was the first to be released, well before Sandy Denny's own take with Fairport Convention.

Didn't a few Dylan songs from the Big Pink sessions get covered before he released (npi) them?

^ yes, Brian Auger put out "This Wheel's on Fire" and "I Am a Lonesome Hobo" before Dylan/The Band. Manfred Mann released "Mighty Quinn (Quinne the Eskimo)" first. The Byrds released "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere" first. Probably other examples.

I'm surprised there's not a thread for this?

Marianne Faithful recorded As Tears Go By a couple years before the Stones...

Peggy Lee and Cher among others put out versions of Ray Davies' "I Go to Sleep" years before Davies' original demo version appeared on a Kinks reissue

This occasionally makes the rounds:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUVL3rrUMAAwZJG?format=jpg&name=medium

dunno who these guys are but they have aged poorly

wear a dark suit and have frizzy dark hair and you will live to see the 2020s, Willburries.

dark suit jacket. and jeans

(silby: those are the members of a 1980s rock "supergroup" made up of Robert Zimmerman, Jeff Lynne from Electric Light Orchestra, Tom Petty, Roy Orbison, and George Harrison, formerly of the Beatles)

Who's this Zimmerman character then?

Owns a deli, iirc.

Allan Clarke (of the Holies) released “Born to Run” before Bruce did. And it’s fucking great!

Mentioned on the Rogers thread, but Johnny Cash released "The Gambler" before Kenny Rogers did (and two others released it before either of them).

xpost Holy shit.

Actually, just looked into it, and Clarke recorded it before Bruce's was released, but his version came out after Bruce's.

https://estreetshuffle.com/index.php/2018/04/30/cover-me-allan-clarke-born-to-run/

(silby: those are the members of a 1980s rock "supergroup" made up of Robert Zimmerman, Jeff Lynne from Electric Light Orchestra, Tom Petty, Roy Orbison, and George Harrison, formerly of the Beatles)

― donald failson (sic), 2020年4月3日 星期五 上午 5:28 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i love you sic

I just looked up that Allan Clarke "Born to Run" so I could listen to it, and on the label the song is credited to "Springstein."

Re: “this wheel’s on fire” etc, I read (in mystery train? Wikipedia?) that after the basement tapes sessions, Dylan/the band did just send all the songs away to be recorded by others... or however that works... like the Lennon/McCartney songs recorded by others but not the Beatles

Think we need a separate thread for this topic, before deems or somebody shows up to moan about ILM encroachment.

that "spring break" is just what Americans call the Easter holidays, just now.

except often enough they don't fall on Easter

not structuring your school terms around a holiday which moves around a 5-week period from year to year is an advantage of keeping religion out of schools which I hadn't previously considered.

yeah what is "michaelmas" exactly

some oxbridge prod thing

a type of daisy, or, the best time to go on the dodgems and win a goldfish in a bag

as a kid in IL, spring break was "easter break" and started Good Friday

Re: Dylan covers

The Albums That Never Were blog has a recreation and write up on the Basement Tapes-era promo acetate that was responsible for all those early covers.

http://albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.com/2015/03/bob-dylan-songs-for-dwarf-music.html?m=1

cool! file links are busted, but so it is with the passage of time.

michaelmas is one of the two days a year that farmers pay rent, is a thing i know that may no longer be true

Here spring break is called spring break, and to further avoid the appearance of religion, while the kids don't have school on Good Friday it's not for Good Friday but for an Institute Day, one of several days off they give each year when the teachers have mandatory instruction.

that "spring break" is just what Americans call the Easter holidays, just now.

Wait, I don't think this is true? Isn't US Spring Break always in March?