US Politics, March 2020 — There’s a very good chance you’re not going to die.

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Detailed roll call of all G20 participants; the calculation, presumably, is that pointless is better than false or dangerous or confrontational or incendiary.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 March 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link

Back to incendiary and confrontational.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 March 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link

is that the general def of "small business"??

iirc this is a pretty standard Republican tactic in legislation, create some bizarrely specific definition of smallbiz so they can funnel even more money to rich people.

https://shadowproof.com/2010/09/20/the-curious-republican-definition-of-small-business/

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:10 (four years ago) link

For those who want a complete boycott, CNN has made some progress: they cover Trump, they cut away from Pence, and then they return when the two doctors speak.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link

shouldn't it be the opposite: why cover Trump at all?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link

that just gives trump an incentive to speak even more, rather than pence

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link

alfred otm

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:19 (four years ago) link

I can tell you right now that CNN will not be not-covering Trump. Maybe other networks will get there, but it won't happen on CNN.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link

Trump's ratings on handling of #COVID19, while improving, are much less impressive in the context of the "rally around the flag" effect observed for current governors & past presidents during crises. pic.twitter.com/LrdE4DpgD4

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) March 26, 2020

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:56 (four years ago) link

Wow.

Creames Fartpoop, Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:58 (four years ago) link

he does have a two point positive bump in the last week or so, likely due to rallying effect.

bad stuff has to start happening again and time has to pass for that to erode.

but of course I don't want bad stuff to happen so.....

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:58 (four years ago) link

yeah I've suspected Fauci's popularity has covered the president in a force field.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:59 (four years ago) link

Tony Fauci for prez

silby, Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link

Do you receive MSNBC, clem? I can't remember the last time I've watched CNN, in part because reporters are too apt to let Trump and the GOP get away with lies without calling him out with data. NBC/MSNC doesn't, mostly (see: Peter Alexander last week).

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link

I do have it, yeah, since I got a new cable package where I am. CNN is all over Trump, believe me. So much so during their evening programming, I can only take so much and turn it off. (I'm talking about pre-virus.) Those poll numbers above are heartening.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:09 (four years ago) link

I'm glad they're all over Trump, I should add, it just makes for monotonous viewing at a certain point.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:10 (four years ago) link

do you mean criticizing him?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:11 (four years ago) link

I'm not sure how seriously to take this tweet:

Trump’s net approval on handling the virus dropped by 10 points from last week to this week in a state where we’re doing some private polling tracking response to the virus (1/3)

— PublicPolicyPolling (@ppppolls) March 26, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:11 (four years ago) link

Idk. Anyone who thinks Trump is equipped to manage this is, I’m sorry to say, a stupid person.

treeship., Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:13 (four years ago) link

Yes--criticizing him, cataloging lies, etc. With CNN, because of stuff that happened with Acosta in particular, there's a real us-vs.-you focus.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:15 (four years ago) link

By heartening, I meant that he was way behind Fauci and governors on that list. That 51% still approve, no, that's not heartening (but explainable in ways that people were posting about yesterday).

clemenza, Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:18 (four years ago) link

Daniel Dale is at CNN, so I assume they're using his fact-checking.

jaymc, Friday, 27 March 2020 00:09 (four years ago) link

Not sure if they do this daily:

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/03/26/trump-coronavirus-task-force-lies-daniel-dale-sot-tsr-vpx.cnn

clemenza, Friday, 27 March 2020 01:10 (four years ago) link

AFAIK Dale goes on air infrequently, but he live-tweets most televised public appearances by Trump, fact-checking in real time as much as possible, does followups on twitter, and writes or co-writes longer write-ups for CNN's website, eg https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/15/politics/fact-check-trump-coronavirus-nobody-predicted/index.html

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Friday, 27 March 2020 01:24 (four years ago) link

(CNN recruited him on the basis of his tweet-fact-checking for the Toronto Star for the earlier decades of this presidency.)

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Friday, 27 March 2020 01:25 (four years ago) link

The Trump campaign just released a cease and desist letter demanding that TV stations immediately pull this ad. https://t.co/BG5NHKJBzd https://t.co/j0A4JoztFL

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) March 25, 2020

El Tomboto, Friday, 27 March 2020 01:29 (four years ago) link

lol thus elevating it from an ad to a news story

whatta dumbass

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 27 March 2020 01:32 (four years ago) link

I can't believe Daniel Dale is still sane.

JoeStork, Friday, 27 March 2020 01:41 (four years ago) link

Gonna be interesting to see how that approval rating holds up once the US leads the world by far in both cases and deaths while Americans are locked in their homes for the 13th consecutive week

frogbs, Friday, 27 March 2020 02:01 (four years ago) link

I mean fact is if you’re white and don’t live in Puerto Rico the last few years probably haven’t been that bad, and the corruption and constant lying obviously aren’t enough to get these folks to turn against him. Being unemployed and having loved ones die, on the other hand...

frogbs, Friday, 27 March 2020 02:04 (four years ago) link

but won't the people celebrate Boeing's survival?

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 27 March 2020 02:10 (four years ago) link

Even his cease and desist letters sound like a whiny bitch

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 27 March 2020 02:12 (four years ago) link

do you hear the people sing
singing the song of complacent men
it's the music of a people
who'll be gladly fucked again

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 March 2020 02:12 (four years ago) link

xpost

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 March 2020 02:12 (four years ago) link

Boeiiiing!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 March 2020 02:13 (four years ago) link

NINETEEN SEXTYSEX

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 27 March 2020 03:16 (four years ago) link

TONY JERRY LEWIS CURTIS

El Tomboto, Friday, 27 March 2020 03:17 (four years ago) link

"They give one the Heimlich Manuever...."

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 27 March 2020 03:20 (four years ago) link

they don't put actor's measurements on movie posters anymore huh

symsymsym, Friday, 27 March 2020 03:54 (four years ago) link

Eddie "40-36" Murphy

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 March 2020 03:56 (four years ago) link

At the bottom of the poster, one of the three young female actors is a brunette. In the main body of the poster, all three are blondes.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 27 March 2020 04:03 (four years ago) link

"Hey Lady!"

nickn, Friday, 27 March 2020 04:11 (four years ago) link

why aren't Thelma Ritter's measurements on there. I need to know before I see this movie

frogbs, Friday, 27 March 2020 04:14 (four years ago) link

Could well be wrong here, but as I listen to Fauci on CNN's weekly coronavirus call-in, I get the feeling that they're laying the groundwork for common sense to prevail and Trump having to postpone his reopening or whatever he's calling it. "Aspirational" sounds like code for "We're letting him bluster away, but it won't happen."

clemenza, Friday, 27 March 2020 04:23 (four years ago) link

just posted this same snippet elsewhere, but seems relevant:

“People might get the misinterpretation you’re just going to lift everything up,” Dr. Fauci said, explaining Mr. Trump’s impatience to jump-start the economy and tell Americans they could resume everyday life. “That’s not going to happen,” Dr. Fauci said. “It’s going to be looking at the data” in regions of the country where there was not an obvious outbreak of the virus.

As a practical matter, however, Mr. Trump does not have the power to decide whether the country can reopen. He can issue federal guidelines, but the decision of whether to return to business as usual is up to each state.

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 March 2020 04:24 (four years ago) link

Xxp Is there a word for a rotten pun that doesn't work like substituting a plane manufacturer name for the supposedly onomatopoeic phrase for bouncing?

& was this an attempt at setting Lewis up with a new partner pre or post Martin?

I am reminded of a study I heard about years ago about air stewardesses being forced to smile constantly. & this having the effect of alienating them from their own emotions. Think it was done in like 1968 I came across it in a talk by one of the societies in my old university Psychsoc.came across a book on the study but never read it.
Think it was supposed to be an effect felt by people in all walks of hospitality where you have to keep a forced smile. It screws up the ability to feel naturally.or something to that effect.

Stevolende, Friday, 27 March 2020 08:33 (four years ago) link

I think book may have been the Managed Heart by Arlie Russell Hochschild. Cover looks right for the copy i saw.

Stevolende, Friday, 27 March 2020 09:42 (four years ago) link

was this an attempt at setting Lewis up with a new partner pre or post Martin?

No, this was nearly 10 years after he broke up with Martin! And Lewis had a very successful solo film career, although by '65 it was sliding before grinding to a halt around '69. It was an attempt by Lewis to play an "adult" role (no high-pitched voice or mugging).

The movie was based on a French stage farce that ran in London for SEVEN YEARS. Both Tony and Jerry have better performing chemistry in that film w/ Thelma Ritter than they do with each other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing-Boeing_(play)

Back to regularly scheduled crisis.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 March 2020 10:26 (four years ago) link

Thelma Ritter’s the best

Heez, Friday, 27 March 2020 13:22 (four years ago) link


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