US Politics, March 2020 — There’s a very good chance you’re not going to die.

pros and cons of a military coup, please

presuming there will be a big enough rogue faction when the bodies accumulate

again, points to Murc's law when sic reads a (good) jeremiad by ex-Deadspinner David Roth that is mostly about how absolutely abysmal Trump and the GOP are, and decides the real headline is that Democrats suck. Frog, scorpion, etc. boring.

I am seeing way too may people believing that the "economy" will be restarted in a couple of weeks. I can't even...

Today I learned not just that the governor of Texas is in a wheelchair, but he is in a wheelchair because he went out running some years ago and a tree fell on him!

Did someone try turning off the economy and turning it back on

Make sure unit is plugged in.

xpost yeah I was saying really mean things about Abbott once (him being a shitty anti-choice monster) and I totally didn't know he was in a wheelchair until one of my insults coincidentally touched on it.

It's really hard to do a military coup (or mass demonstrations) while physically distancing

Virtual assassination

again, points to Murc's law when sic reads a (good) jeremiad by ex-Deadspinner David Roth that is mostly about how absolutely abysmal Trump and the GOP are, and decides the real headline is that Democrats suck. Frog, scorpion, etc. boring.

that headline makes sense when you consider that the GOP is pure evil, nobody really expects them to be anything but, and the Dems have been laughably ineffective at countering them

again, points to Murc's law when sic reads a (good) jeremiad by ex-Deadspinner David Roth that is mostly about how absolutely abysmal Trump and the GOP are, and decides the real headline is that Democrats suck. Frog, scorpion, etc. boring.

It's about lots of things but I didn't list them all in a brief link, and I figured most people itt are bringing at least the same level background awareness of Trump being abysmal to their reading as the author presumes they will. Roth describes some terrible Democratic responses to the terrible actions and inactions of the administration, in a context of what they could do better. I also didn't say that it's funny or angry.

The main problem is that in between elections, power is already distributed and the power relationship between the parties is fairly set in concrete for another two years. The secondary problem is that the way our government is set up, blocking actions can be done with far less power than initiating and carrying out actions. To the degree the GOP is a negative force and the Democrats are positive, the power balance favors the GOP even when they are not 'in control'. The GOP figured all this out in detail over the last four decades, as they morphed into their modern incarnation.

David Roth on the pissweakness of the overall Democratic Party response to our current situation.

― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic)

you mean the Dems who got the GOP to kowtow?

It's like on ILE and social media a liberal-left WHATABOUTism exists: you can't attack the GOP without also pointing furiously at Schumer, Pelosi, the DNC, etc.

Yeah that essay seems out-of-date already.

this was 12 days ago (feels like 2 years ago) & trump has somehow been crazier than i thought possible in the interim

David Brooks
@nytdavidbrooks
Mar 12
I get the sense that this is not only the low point of the Trump presidency but the low point of the American presidency ever. Has any president ever been this overmatched by a crisis?

has anything passed yet?

Even GW Bush never really lost the support of David Brooks.

Fauci seemed to be on a very short leash right there. "You've got two minutes, here's what you're allowed to say, then we'll get Larry up there."

I thought Fauci wd no longer appear, all the smarties said

pence sez "the task force met again today" like it displaced something more important on his sched

Today I learned not just that the governor of Texas is in a wheelchair, but he is in a wheelchair because he went out running some years ago and a tree fell on him!

And he went on to help dismantle rights for the handicapped* in Texas, so anybody seen Tommy Udo lately?

*Including my father, who was a diabetic amputee that spent the last year of his life rotting in a wheelchair thanks in part to Abbott's work.

(xpost) That was my thought too. I'm sure the calculation is that it's better to have him up there saying very little than absent altogether, which prompts all sorts of questions. I want him to speak up as much as possible, but I also realize that that could prevent him from doing all he can behind the scenes. Bad situation.

I know I get chastised for watching these things, but anyway, questioned as to whether Trump arrived at his Easter 'reopening' in consultation with the two doctors standing beside him, part of his response was "I just thought it was a beautiful timeline."

after three weeks, the economy rolls the stone away from the grave. Mnuchin comes out dressed as the Easter Bunny (Spicer's old costume)

(I feel obligated to thank Clifford Odets, Ernest Lehman, and Alexander Mackendrick every time I use the word "chastise.")

Question as everyone exits: "Is is wise to pack churches on Easter?"

the blood of the Lamb will set us free, clem.

"Is it"

I do get the feeling hologram Cecil B. DeMille will be there for tomorrow's briefing.

just going to weigh in here and say mother fuck lawsuit millionaire Greg Abbot who’s absolutely a tort reform guy now. not then, you see. but now.

in a just world that tree would have finished the job.

Obviously it's stupid to allow church gatherings at all let alone during a pandemic, but at least churchgoing types are a little more likely to already be the sort of people who don't socialise much outside of Sunday morning.

you mean the Dems who got the GOP to kowtow?

I don't perceive any negotiation, compromise or agreement reached so far as kowtowing.

It's like on ILE and social media a liberal-left WHATABOUTism exists: you can't attack the GOP without also pointing furiously at Schumer, Pelosi, the DNC, etc.

I've got ten fingers and two arms, keep 'em coming. No proposed responses on either side so far are meeting the scale that will be needed to cope.

the $2 trillion stimulus is pretty astonishing by my lights, and the Dems got Munchkin and the White House to accede to their demands.

churchgoing types are a little more likely to already be the sort of people who don't socialise much outside of Sunday morning.

I know a fair amounf of churchgoers and they don't socialize any less than the rest of us

xpost Seriously. Did y'all honestly think this thing was just going to magic the problem away in one fell swoop? Jesus.

xp amount

I think I just realized it's time to [command +] my screen, that's been my whole problem all this time

Did y'all honestly think this thing was just going to magic the problem away in one fell swoop? Jesus.

― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch),

Who said that?

Agreeing with you, shaking my head at people grousing that it's too little. Because of course it is, but it's a surprisingly good start.

I mean, apologies for trying to take into account the possibility I'll still be alive and have bills to pay in August?

To quote my favorite benefit track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXGgWf2lacM

get busy Humpty

are y'all seriously thinking that with a Republican majority Senate (albeit a thinner one right now due to people who are quarantined at home and can't vote) that anything better than 100% of your salary for 4 months was possible? I didn't even think THAT was possible.

I sincerely doubt that's the last piece of legislation if this thing continues into September, but...if we're going to constantly feel despair because we can't guarantee everything is going to be roses six months in the future, that's just going to bring you undue pain, and I say this as someone that has been fighting to keep panic attacks at bay for the first time in over a year rn.

no, this bill if it passes as is does not guarantee we will all live happily ever after, but it WOULD guarantee that the hundreds of friends and family members I have who can now feel the tightened ropes around their chest loosen a bit and feel like they might have a fighting chance at coming out ok in the long run. Fuck making me feel bad for feeling happy about that, because it's been keeping me up at night.

gotta take these things a day at a time, or you're going to wear yourself out. I should know, I wound up in the hospital over it once.

the fight doesn't stop tonight any more than it would have had Dems just signed the first shitty bill that was thrown in front of them.

people grousing that it's too little

these were the same people bitching that congressional Dems were getting rolled afaict

are y'all seriously thinking that with a Republican majority Senate (albeit a thinner one right now due to people who are quarantined at home and can't vote) that anything better than 100% of your salary for 4 months was possible? I didn't even think THAT was possible.

I've held my fire hoping sic and others aren't obtuse enough not to see this.

Neanderthal otm

that said, until this thing is passed, I am going to be a bit on pins and needles worried about shenanigans. but I'll take that over wondering how $2,400 was going to somehow keep my parents afloat. or worrying that my best friend, who has told me she's had suicidal thoughts on more than one occasion in recent months prior to the crisis, and in the last week alone, is going to finally be pushed over the edge by all this and leave me with a giant hole inside me.

everybody keeps pointing to the "well evictions are suspended now, so they're fine", but all that means is that when the crisis is over, your landlord can say "cool, well, now the moratorium on evictions is through, you now have 3 days to pay me for the five months of rent you couldn't pay while it was going on".

like, FUCK YOU dudes. I know people now whom this legislation will keep them from being on the streets. I'm SO sorry legislation is dirty. How would Sanders as presumptive nominee made it less so?

And I assume, by the way, Sanders, without any evidence, was involved in making this the biggest example of liberal largesse in 50 years if it emerges intact.

I briefly visited my FOX-sustained mom a couple hours ago and she was livid the Dems held this up. I had to explain a couple of the provisions; she understood, but I saw in her eyes she thought I'd been duped. I mention this gross anecdote only to show how FOX News already sees this bill as a surrender to liberalism.

could be worse, they could be giving Trump credit for it

and uh guess what -- if this bill passes, the poor service industry employees and POC will benefit most.