chuck schumer on tv now repeating liz warren talking points about the upcoming airline bailouts
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 14:37 (four years ago) link
pretty good
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link
I’m baffled by that poll too but I still think that reality has not set in for most of America yet. Once they’re jobless and locked in their houses for 2 months with relatives and friends getting sick and possibly dying I feel like his numbers will slide. As far as I can tell every world leader is getting an approval bump right now.
― frogbs, Saturday, 21 March 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link
"hey I'm still alive NOW!"
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:01 (four years ago) link
Approval rating for how leadership is handling a crisis has next to nothing to do with how leadership is handling a crisis. People project their deep wish to have strong leadership. As things get more grim I'd expect it only to rise.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link
GWB dropped into the mid 20s
― frogbs, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link
Carter's approval rating soon after the Iranian hostages were taken, for instance, was very high. The first Iraq War, 9/11, there's always initial rallying-around.
http://www.nytimes.com/1979/12/10/archives/survey-finds-carters-popularity-has-risen-sharply-in-iran-crisis.html
(Which is not to say that Trump's 35% will ever desert him.)
― clemenza, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link
Right, eventually when things die down hopefully there's a more sober assessment. But mid-crisis is different. How high was GWB's right after 9/11 and how long did it take to get to that mid-20s? Granted the mismanagement of that response was overseas so out of sight out of mind for many Americans.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
Reporters should respond to Trump lies with audible groans.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link
Sanders was correct at the top of the last debate: We need to shut this mass-murdering motherfucker up. Stop covering his pressers as much as possible.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-touts-unproven-coronavirus-drug-cocktail-as-one-of-the-biggest-game-changers-in-the-history-of-medicine/
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link
Bernie is definitely the only person who ever voiced that idea
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link
I get that he’s the only democratic presidential candidate who said it but c’mon, people have been pointing out that covering Trump pressers is bad since the second time Trump gave a presser
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link
Ahem
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
first time
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link
oh wait - sorry. before the first time.
no one cares when ILX says it, we're lower than Tulsi Gabbard
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link
― frogbs, Saturday, March 21, 2020 12:19 PM bookmarkflaglink
that was at the end of his second term. he was slightly above 50% by the time the Kerry election came by.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link
and he still barely held that milquetoast off
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:21 (four years ago) link
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, March 21, 2020 12:16 PM bookmarkflaglink
also....approval rating of handling a disaster does not equate to approval rating. somebody could be saying "he's doing an ok job at this but he's an asshole otherwise".
Yes ^
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link
how could anyone think he is "doing an OK job at this"? he was saying it was the same as the flu less than two weeks ago
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link
Yeah, it’s dispiriting. And literally 4 hours ago he was tweeting about how 2 malaria drugs are definitely going to save the day and pushing everyone to try them immediately
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link
i know. and i mean, every single press conference is just him talking about himself, how unfair the media is, blah blah blah
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link
i would not underestimate to the degree to which approval rating w/r/t a tragedy carries over into general overall approval
we saw this happen in real time w/ Giuliani, people get desperate for even the illusion of comfort, even from a monster, all you need is broad shouders or a bullhorn
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link
underestimate to the degree
he isn't handling this as competently as giuliani or bush did on 9/11. he can't play the role of a reassuring, normal guy. he is inveighing against his enemies at every turn, blurting out misinformation like a moron
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, March 21, 2020 1:21 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, March 21, 2020 2:11 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― treeship., Saturday, March 21, 2020 2:13 PM (f
His general approval rating has remained dismal.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link
how did Bush and Giuliani "handle" 9-11 "competently"
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
xp treeship, that's how you and I see it, yes
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
"i call it CON-cast to tell you the truth" -- the president yesterday, in a press conference designed to reassure the public
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
they didn't go on tv and act like this alfred
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link
i'd think the american people wouldn't have an appetite for this kind of thing when they're tuning in to learn if they will die next week of lung failure
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link
hope you're right
we've been choosing to eat a lot of shit for a long time though
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link
Getting lobbed a softball question like “what do you say to people who are scared” and snapping at the reporter is definitely not something Rudy or GWB would’ve done
― frogbs, Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link
for about 2 weeks Giuliani was a competent public mourner who didn't say anything stupid on mic. the he started plotting for a third term.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link
they were minimally aware that other things in the world existed beyond their own, immediate desires though
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link
at the very least, they had medium to long-term desires
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link
W, maybe, but Giuliani rarely missed an opportunity to piss in a reporter's face.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link
― treeship., Saturday, March 21, 2020 2:13 PM bookmarkflaglink
I mean why do people like him at all? it's infuriating but it's a calculus I'll never understand.
I don't give credit to the dude for being dragged into this kicking and screaming, yet I had an argument with two Trumpers today who said he was doing an "amazing" job.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link
he is pumped up by an entire media ecosystem that rationalizes everything he says or does.
i guarantee you, for 99% of MAGA supporters, if they saw someone behave like he does in their personal life, they would be alarmed
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:32 (four years ago) link
Doesn't matter.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:35 (four years ago) link
i guess, i don't know what matters
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:35 (four years ago) link
Keeping yourself and your family safe.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link
i'm trying to do that. holed up in this weird apartment away from my books.
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link
not weird -- just not mine. not a fan of this.
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link
I think a lot of people can sympathise with somebody who kinda hoped and thought something was gonna be nbd and then realised it was disastrous and started taking it seriously. It’s relatable!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link
stop telling people what matters to them
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link
xp kind of guy you'd like to have a virtual, nonalcoholic beer with
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link
xps
i know, the thing you're tired of hearing is white men complaining about potential bad things, since most people are already dealing with the actual things and it's not helpful to add whining to the mix. instead, get out there and actually do something, you sad whiny fucks. we've been through this. but in this case, it's the white sad man's dream - we CAN'T go out there and do something. so for once, let people care about what they actually care about
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link
I understand Οὖτις's contention that ignoring these press briefings is the sanest thing to do. I really do. But--not wanting to argue about it at the moment--I think there's an equally valid argument for keeping tabs on what the person making decisions is saying each day (and also to really understand the scope of his incompetence--which, I know, everyone understands already).
Thinking about the way he's been hyping this malaria-related drug the past couple of days, it's clear that the big thing for him is that side effects are minimal/not a danger, and that it's a drug that has already been approved. He could just as well be up there sharing his excitement about Flintstones vitamins as a potential savior.
― clemenza, Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link