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I liked Bobos in Paradise, but Brooks has sucked ever since. And John McWhorter wrote the most offensive column about hip-hop that I've ever read.

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:34 (twenty years ago) link

Otherwise, I guess I like most of the conservatives that liberals like.

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

Tom McCall, Mark Hatfield, Daniel Bell, Bob Packwood (before the tongue scandal)

― jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:37 (twenty years ago) link

sen. chuck hagel (of nebraska).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:42 (twenty years ago) link

seconded

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:46 (twenty years ago) link

"Ward Connerly, actually. Or Dinesh D'Souza, who is far worse. "Look, an East Indian guy believes Racism Is Dead! He would know!"

I am convinced that Dinesh D'Souza is the spawn of Satan.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:52 (twenty years ago) link

Who would also know, I guess

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:57 (twenty years ago) link

Matos said what I was going to.

Dee. that's it.

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:59 (twenty years ago) link

Roger I don't see why I should go first, but I will. I had a long conversation with Bugliosi, and he was very insightful, and I'm not gonna say soulful, but he's got a conscience. Yes, he likes money (again, not sure when not liking money got to be a conservative trait), and making money, but as far as I'm concerned he's nowhere anything like Johnny Cochran. Do you compare the two because they're both lawyers? I hope you realize they're completely different, Bugliosi was L.A. County D.A. whereas Cochran's a defense lawyer - and those are two completely different things (in opposition to each other, even). And Bugliosi's book on the 2000 election fiasco was fantastic - and showed that unlike most Republicans desparate to win back the White House, he has principles. I just don't understand your beef with the man, and I can only assume that its based in some sort of weird misunderstanding of who he is and what he's done.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:01 (twenty years ago) link

Admittedly, I don't have the vast knowledge on the man you do - maybe he's a terrific guy. But I know from the few interviews I've seen with him, and the handling of the Manson trial, that I don't like him.

As far as his relation to Cochran is concerned - they both seem to be seeking to gratify their own tremendous egos via the court system

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:05 (twenty years ago) link

What about his handling of the Manson trial did you not like? And since I can assume that you, like me, weren't even born yet when it happened, why does it matter? Also, Bugliosi hasn't been practicing for a number of years now, so your elaboration on the comparison to Cochran is even more bullshit than it was had you not elaborated.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:10 (twenty years ago) link

Stanley Crouch. Seriously, have you ever actually tried to listen to 'Bitches Brew' all the way through

― dave q, Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:15 (twenty years ago) link

Cobservative Music Critics You Like

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:16 (twenty years ago) link

"cobservative"

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:16 (twenty years ago) link

This thread makes me curious who on ILX would identify themselves as a conservative.

Well, I am also something of a libertarian, but I can identify w/liberals much more than conservatives and I tend to like them a lot better.

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:40 (twenty years ago) link

Tom Selleck, Bo Derek, Scott Baio.

― Star Hustler, Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:04 (twenty years ago) link

Tom Selleck is a republican?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:10 (twenty years ago) link

gary numan. (though allegedly he now supports labour.)

frank "i'm a practical conservative" zappa. (though unfortunately he's dead).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:14 (twenty years ago) link

Tom Selleck is a republican?

Have you been living under a rock?

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:15 (twenty years ago) link

I just don't pay attention to that crap.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:16 (twenty years ago) link

I know that Selleck bitchslapped Rosie O'Donnell on her show after she made some remark about gun control and he collects rifles like that Sharps rifle he used in Quigley Down Under.

Good for him.

― Star Hustler, Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:16 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/News/9905/20/showbuzz/rosie.tom.jpg

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:17 (twenty years ago) link

He wasn't Elmer Fudd-ly enough in his portrayal of Ike.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago) link

(i believe he is affiliated w/the nra somehow)

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago) link

(I hear Charlton Heston is too, duh)

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago) link

(why do you think Rosie attacked him? NRA ads, duh)

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:19 (twenty years ago) link

He should have shot her.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:21 (twenty years ago) link

Shit hell, William S. Burroughs was card-carrying NRA!

Moderate/MOR Senate Republicans are fine. I like them. Too bad they deal with bozos like Trent Lott and kittyslayer Frist.

William Safire is a respectable conservative. Oddly, I don't mind Pat Buchanan nowadays. I like Col. David Hackworth too.

― Star Hustler, Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:23 (twenty years ago) link

ANYWAY, if you want an example why Andrew Sullivan's twisting in the wind fascinates me increasingly, this riposte to Jonah Goldberg is up-to-date and worth the read.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:24 (twenty years ago) link

William Safire is batshit crazy and his political columns are worthless. His word columns are okay if you need crossword clues, tho.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:25 (twenty years ago) link

i actually watched that fracas go down

Pat Buchanan is entertaining on the Mclaughlin group, but cant say he is likeable.

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:26 (twenty years ago) link

william safire cuckolded richard nixon's corpse for ariel sharon's cock. he is despicable in every way.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:28 (twenty years ago) link

William Safire's political predictions are about as accurate as the Times's Saturday NFL predictions, ie. never.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:29 (twenty years ago) link

Another big seconding on David Hackworth.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:34 (twenty years ago) link

what percentage of Nixon's speeches did Safire write?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:36 (twenty years ago) link

Safire is indeed batshit crazy, but I still respect him and enjoy reading some of his stuff.

― Star Hustler, Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:41 (twenty years ago) link

Hm, the Hackworth site looks like one that I need to monitor more closely here -- been too long since I checked it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:42 (twenty years ago) link

Is Hitchens conservative now?

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Gerry Spence. Is he considered conservative? He's a great man.

I remember listening to this libertarian/populist/isolationist type on the radio named Chuck Harder. He was pretty cool. He had an unfortunate tendency to really deride the UN, but was anti-NAFTA, anti-GATT, pro-farmer, pro-factories in the U.S. borders, and he was kind of like a right-wing Ralph Nader. But he was ignorant in foreign affairs. Nevertheless, his radio show For the People was enjoyable.

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I adore Jan Crouch's delivery and showmanship. She is my favorite televangelist. Her husband Paul is funny too. They provide countless hours of religious entertainment. I don't know if I could forgive them for preying on the schizophrenic and disadvantaged though.

― Star Hustler, Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:04 (twenty years ago) link

Christopher Hitchens is just a bitch.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:19 (twenty years ago) link

also I can't believe I forgot G. Gordon Liddy. He is my favorite conservative.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:19 (twenty years ago) link

Mark Steyn
*runs away*

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:23 (twenty years ago) link

I like "Crazy Andy" Sullivan when he's in his thoughtful angsty conservative mode. I hate him when he's in his idiot demagogue conservative mode. I never know which one I'll find when I open his blog.

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:25 (twenty years ago) link

Gerald Ford! Is he even a conservative? He seems so blank. He looks like Frankenberries, therefore, classic.

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:30 (twenty years ago) link

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:31 (twenty years ago) link

what was that all about?

He looks like Frankenberries even in that old pic.

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:32 (twenty years ago) link

*sigh*

1970s and 1980s: Financial crisis

Financial crisis hit the city in the mid-1970s, when it briefly appeared that the city might have to declare bankruptcy (see John Lindsay). The fiscal crisis resulted largely from the combination of generous welfare spending by the city government in the 1960s and the stock market and economic stagnation of the 1970s. President Gerald R. Ford earned the enmity of many New Yorkers when he refused to use federal money to "bail out" the city. The New York Daily News famously summarized Ford's decision in a headline: "Ford to City: Drop Dead".

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:35 (twenty years ago) link

I couldn't tell what city it was. (everyone calls every nearby city "The City").

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 17 June 2004 06:30 (twenty years ago) link

Argh, I Forgot about D.E.E!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 17 June 2004 07:27 (twenty years ago) link

John McCain, Collin Quin? (is he a conservative?, seems to be a Bush supporter)

― Cacaman Flores, Thursday, 17 June 2004 08:06 (twenty years ago) link

Thomas Sowell has a permanent stick up his butt about affirmative action and alll things PC but he wrote a book called "Conquest and Culture" that was kind of brilliant. It talked, among other things, about the huge influence of geography on the development of cultures in a way I'd never considered before. For instance he pointed out that Europe has a larger coastline than Africa despite being much smaller in area facilitating trade and that technology spreads in an East-West direction more easily than North-South, (because it allows travel along a single climatic bands) speeding up development in Eurasia while hindering it in the Americas. I was impressed by the book and quite surprised when I googled his name and realized he was the cranky black Republican who wrote a column for my local paper.

― Mir Foregnor, Thursday, 17 June 2004 11:30 (twenty years ago) link

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