So we should keep the peasants away from discount cakes for their own protection.
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I just wasn't sure if we were supposed to be blaming poor people for being overweight, or whether the increased access to better foods at lower costs was helping them
― cedar, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:35 (sixteen years ago) link
I think we should blame them for being overweight and for eating awful frozen food in poorly designed restaurants.
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:36 (sixteen years ago) link
i have attempted to eat at enis's but didn't have enough time to stay and sit and wait for the incredibly slow service - instead i got fish and chips to go at "fishcoteque" - but yeah it feels like a portal to another dimension
noodle i don't know wtf this thread has to do with "poor people"
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:37 (sixteen years ago) link
or "peasants" as you say
In the US it seems obesity is something that strikes the poorer sections of society. Given that we are agreed that supermarkets bring greater choice at lower prices, is this something of a surprise?
-- cedar, Monday, November 5, 2007 12:32 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
wow.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:38 (sixteen years ago) link
i think sometimes it's nice to attribute human agency to poor folks.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:39 (sixteen years ago) link
I was responding to cedar's post about "poor fatteys".
If you don't see how criticising chain restaurants and cheap food might have class implications, you really are being disingenuous tho.
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Criticising it in the way you did, specifically. Like it's just a question of bad taste.
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:41 (sixteen years ago) link
The chain restaurant phenomenon isn't restricted to the bottom end of the market, we have chicken Cottage up through, Nandos, Pizza Express, Giraffe and Bodeans all the way through to Conran or Gordon Ramsey's portfolio of restaurants.
― Ed, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Damn, now I'm hungry.
― Mark G, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Actually I agree re:human agency.
So why do lower income groups in the US have higher rates of obesity?
― cedar, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:43 (sixteen years ago) link
wagamama is pretty good but i agree with the thrust of what tracer says in this thread.
― jed_, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:44 (sixteen years ago) link
the rich ones seem pretty fat too, to be fair.
xpost
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:44 (sixteen years ago) link
So am I and I think I am going to cycle of for a non-chain chinese bun, but last time I did this I was diverted by the chain Bodeans, it could happen again especially as today is a day for burnt ends.
― Ed, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:44 (sixteen years ago) link
In America, streets are paved with cheese.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link
noodle vague in what way is wagamama "cheap"?????
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't even know what a wagamama is. In what way is it bad?
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link
it doesn't use fresh-sourced peasants, it uses pre-ground peasants
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Anarcho-punk collective, had a big hit with "Tubthumping".
xp
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link
aren't wagammama dolls banned now?
― darraghmac, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link
xxpost
I think not even trying to make sense might be a sign of bad faith.
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Burnt ends are Sunday and Wednesday, I thought? Hmm I have a Bodeans 100 yards from my office (BUT I'M ON A DIET NO NO NO).
Is there anyone here whose FAVOURITE place to go out to eat (not some £100 a head restaurant, somewhere reasonable) is a chain restaurant?
― Mark C, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Not me.
― ailsa, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:56 (sixteen years ago) link
This thread still has a way to go before it matches Tracey's DAEREST BRITISHES: WHY YOU NO WASH DISHES PROPERLY?
― Stevie T, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:00 (sixteen years ago) link
all the chinese buns shops are run by the triads, ed!
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link
wagamama is cheap when you get those 2 for 1 vouchers
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:04 (sixteen years ago) link
it's my favourite place to go for lunch. in a way that is because there is a lack of good cheap noodle shops in the vicinity.
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:05 (sixteen years ago) link
but that also brings a point - near where i work, in central london, it must cost so much to set up a business that, almost all of the time it is going to be a big chain store who can afford to do this???
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link
on holloway road there are quite a few indie food stores. although amici had a shop down the road
if your business is doing well, and you have the capital to expand the business, and the market is there to absorb your growth, why wouldn't you do it?
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link
there are probably loads of moderately successful shops that do not branch out. but you will never hear about them because there's only one?
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost conscience and a concern for the traditional profile of the area.
― darraghmac, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:10 (sixteen years ago) link
LOOK TRACER A WOP LIKES PIZZA EXPRESS AND A CHINK LIKES WAGAMAMA
― Mark C, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link
it shows how far gone you are
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Assimilated is the word, I think
― Mark C, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:14 (sixteen years ago) link
what does conscience have to do with this? it's unethical to expand your business if you believe it is something good and you know that people enjoy it?
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:15 (sixteen years ago) link
-- ken c, Monday, November 5, 2007 1:09 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
this is the thing. hard to compare a chain with a single restaurant. if the single restaurant is conveniently situated for your needs, great.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:15 (sixteen years ago) link
wagamama are the nips. mark. english people love haggis.
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:16 (sixteen years ago) link
haha i am so wrong. wagamama dude was totally from hong kong
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:20 (sixteen years ago) link
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― Mark C, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:21 (sixteen years ago) link
but then pizza express dude was from peterborough. go figure!
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:21 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Mark C, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:54 (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
http://www.buddiesrestaurants.com/
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link
sorry ken, should have included the /sarcasm tag after that post.
― darraghmac, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link
you should have included the /italkshite tag after your post.
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:23 (sixteen years ago) link
you're saying everyone who runs a successful business has no conscience.
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:24 (sixteen years ago) link
or are you saying that no business ever delivers something good for anybody.
in that case, close all shops?
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:26 (sixteen years ago) link
what makes a shop with one branch more ethical than two?
if you cannot answer that, then you have just talked shite.
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I can't answer that!
― Mark G, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:33 (sixteen years ago) link
jesus ken, i just told you it was sarcasm. wtf?
― darraghmac, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link
oh! sorry
i thought you said "sorry ken, you should have put the 'sarcasm' tag on" which had a totally different meaning!
― ken c, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link