bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

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From the depressing to the good.

Schools are shutting down today, but childcare is still a collective social responsibility. I've spent the last few days working with a crack team of coders to build this (incredibly cool) tool for scheduling MICRO childcare co-ops https://t.co/AuXwrzPZul pic.twitter.com/X1lurMYoyP

— Malcolm Harris (@BigMeanInternet) March 16, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 March 2020 16:01 (six years ago)

“I would advise against that,” said Prof Ian Jones, a virologist at the University of Reading. “There’s good scientific evidence for ibuprofen aggravating the condition or prolonging it. That recommendation needs to be updated.”

Paul Little, a professor of primary care research at the University of Southampton, said: “The general feeling is that the French advice is fairly sensible. There is now a sizeable literature from case control studies in several countries that prolonged illness or the complications of respiratory infections may be more common when non-steroidal anti-inflammatories (NSAIDs) are used.”

A trial by Little and his colleagues, published in the BMJ, found patients with respiratory infections such as coughs, colds and sore throats who were prescribed ibuprofen rather than paracetamol by their GP were more likely to subsequently suffer severe illness or complications. Several other studies have linked anti-inflammatory drugs to worsened pneumonia.

HSE really need to get their shit together perhaps? Not a good time to be putting bad advice out there.

calzino, Monday, 16 March 2020 16:08 (six years ago)

here we go

stet, Monday, 16 March 2020 16:51 (six years ago)

Social distancing to begin. Londoners in particular to avoid pubs restaurants etc.

From next week vulnerable people to take isolation for 12 weeks

Everyone who can WFH should do so

No mass gatherings will get emergency workers support.

London is ahead of the curve (more cases)

14 days isolation if anyone in your house has symptoms, don't go out except for exercise.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-51903319

stet, Monday, 16 March 2020 16:57 (six years ago)

welp

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 March 2020 17:00 (six years ago)

At least four days late

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Monday, 16 March 2020 17:04 (six years ago)

“From next week”

nephs and nieces spread diseases (wins), Monday, 16 March 2020 17:05 (six years ago)

Yeah what

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Monday, 16 March 2020 17:07 (six years ago)

Abandon your dumbfuck plan NOW you literal shithead

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Monday, 16 March 2020 17:08 (six years ago)

they are saying this is ahead of when other countries implemented the same measures.

stet, Monday, 16 March 2020 17:10 (six years ago)

forgive me for not accepting the BUT MIIIISSSSS defence from HM's G

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Monday, 16 March 2020 17:12 (six years ago)

Other countries as in Italy or France, or other countries like Singapore and South Korea

nephs and nieces spread diseases (wins), Monday, 16 March 2020 17:14 (six years ago)

or other countries like Ireland

Number None, Monday, 16 March 2020 17:24 (six years ago)

Specific country such as Ireland

nephs and nieces spread diseases (wins), Monday, 16 March 2020 17:29 (six years ago)

don't want to worry you all unduly but check out the bat wings on boris, he's definitely in on this

https://i.ibb.co/zhHpXVt/batwings.jpg

ymo sumac (NickB), Monday, 16 March 2020 17:34 (six years ago)

covid 19 was an inside job

ymo sumac (NickB), Monday, 16 March 2020 17:34 (six years ago)

nightmare winning a massive majority and then getting landed w this. haha get fucked

||||||||, Monday, 16 March 2020 17:36 (six years ago)

8 weeks unpaid leave that is roughhhhhhh. only the beginning too

||||||||, Monday, 16 March 2020 17:44 (six years ago)

Man what I wouldn't give for a Corbyn PM to rinse Branson right about now

xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 March 2020 17:54 (six years ago)

the keeping schools open thing is fucking me off. children aren't one homogeneous blob. sure, have schooling as a childcare measure for kids whose parents/guardians need to be at work, but all of a sudden we're going to have a shitload of people working from home who could just keep their kids home with them

ymo sumac (NickB), Monday, 16 March 2020 17:55 (six years ago)

Russia has made it optional to send kids to school, which isn’t great, but gets round the issue of people who could look after them while they wfh not being allowed to.

ShariVari, Monday, 16 March 2020 17:56 (six years ago)

Specially as there is lots shutting down in the last hour after the advice from Johnson on pubs etc. Yoga studio that I go to is now closed. As is the ICA xp

xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 March 2020 17:58 (six years ago)

yes sorry, working from home or suddenly finding themselves redundant :(

ymo sumac (NickB), Monday, 16 March 2020 18:00 (six years ago)

Not much use advising people not to go to pubs but not actually doing anything to make the pubs close

I am using your worlds, Monday, 16 March 2020 18:05 (six years ago)

I don't know what's legally required to make businesses close, it makes some political sense for the government to want to be seen to exhaust other options first, I guess.

Psychedics with Rosie Swash (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 March 2020 18:11 (six years ago)

“From next week”


Gives oldies the weekend to go panic buying

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Monday, 16 March 2020 18:12 (six years ago)

Tell them to and back it with stimulus-style measures to see them through? xp

xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 March 2020 18:13 (six years ago)

A prison officer has tested positive - he could make a full recovery but if there's an outbreak in there there's no way he's going to be able to go back to work.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 March 2020 18:17 (six years ago)

Tescos-good, occasionally busy later. Sainsburys-slight to moderate, navigation warning in aisle 7. Asda-slight to moderate, heavy crowds later. M&S & Co-Op, fair. Waitrose fair to moderate, w poor visibility in pasta aisle at first. Lidl- rough at first, slight to moderate later

— Professor Amanda Vickery (@Amanda_Vickery) March 15, 2020

santa clause four (suzy), Monday, 16 March 2020 18:18 (six years ago)

Riots in a month if Johnson doesn't start handing the cash.

Responding to a question about the effect the crisis will have on those on low incomes with some irrelevant hot air about marginal raises to the minimum wage. It's sociopathic. It's wildly inadequate. pic.twitter.com/rWDgINwAXw

— James B (@piercepenniless) March 16, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 March 2020 18:25 (six years ago)

Gonna be a huge spike in people in need of Universal Credit urgently, good thing it's such an efficient process and not a failing, inadequate joke

ymo sumac (NickB), Monday, 16 March 2020 18:30 (six years ago)

If Virgin Atlantic paid its employees £500 a week for eight weeks it would cost £34m. Branson himself is worth £4bn.

Tell me again about "society"

boxedjoy, Monday, 16 March 2020 18:40 (six years ago)

Corbyn gonna be in 12-week isolation soon I guess

stet, Monday, 16 March 2020 18:52 (six years ago)

So do we support local businesses (and stave off wfh-induced mh issues) by going for a pint/meal, or is that irresponsible ignorance of social-distancing advice?

crisp, Monday, 16 March 2020 18:54 (six years ago)

The latter I think, sadly

stet, Monday, 16 March 2020 18:55 (six years ago)

Definitely don't go for a pint or a meal. But I've never felt as virtuous ordering a takeaway as I did the other night.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 March 2020 18:55 (six years ago)

Are there any official guidelines as to what is and isn't OK now? Is going for a run or a walk in the park OK if you don't get too close to people? What about going to the shops?

Matt DC, Monday, 16 March 2020 18:57 (six years ago)

OK: starving to death in isolation
NOT OK: rioting

Psychedics with Rosie Swash (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 March 2020 18:59 (six years ago)

Govt finally moving towards what I think should have happened earlier and now I'm shitting myself.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Monday, 16 March 2020 19:00 (six years ago)

I have been gloving up and going to my local cafe (where for weeks they have been wearing masks and had a hand sanitiser station with a sign saying “wash your hands before you eat”) for a coffee and telling myself this was fine but maybe it isn’t

nephs and nieces spread diseases (wins), Monday, 16 March 2020 19:00 (six years ago)

Is going for a run or a walk in the park OK if you don't get too close to people?

Jogging is reportedly fine, as long as you're not doing it in groups.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Monday, 16 March 2020 19:00 (six years ago)

social distancing/shielding favouring all those things that are the ills of modern living - cars, gated communities, amazon, food in plastic packaging, the wealthy, lack of community, social media instead of talking to people irl, isolation

ymo sumac (NickB), Monday, 16 March 2020 19:03 (six years ago)

Matt, this article has solid advice

https://medium.com/@ariadnelabs/social-distancing-this-is-not-a-snow-day-ac21d7fa78b4

Number None, Monday, 16 March 2020 19:06 (six years ago)

Exercise, take walks/runs outside, and stay connected through phone, video, and other social media. But when you go outside, do your best to maintain at least six feet between you and non-family members. If you have kids, try not to use public facilities like playground structures, as coronavirus can live on plastic and metal for up to nine days, and these structures aren’t getting regularly cleaned.
Going outside will be important during these strange times, and the weather is improving. Go outside every day if you are able, but stay physically away from people outside your family or roommates. If you have kids, try playing a family soccer game instead of having your kids play with other kids, since sports often mean direct physical contact with others.

Number None, Monday, 16 March 2020 19:07 (six years ago)

Universal Basic Income is the only solution to the financial problems that a lot of people are going to be facing, right? The alternative is a gigantic and destabilising rise in consumer and business debt or widespread bankruptcies and closures.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 March 2020 19:08 (six years ago)

spain has banned road cycling - assume this is due to the chances of cyclists coming off and injuring themselves, increasing strain on health service

||||||||, Monday, 16 March 2020 19:10 (six years ago)

Today we are advising people against all unnecessary social contact with others and all unnecessary travel.

We need people to start working from home if they possibly can.

We should steer clear of pubs, clubs, cinemas and restaurants.

We should only use the NHS when we really need to.

This advice is directed at everyone, but it’s especially important for the over 70s, for pregnant women and for those with some health conditions.

It’s especially true of London, which the evidence suggests is several weeks ahead of the rest of the country.

stet, Monday, 16 March 2020 19:12 (six years ago)

Number none’s is better - where is it from?

stet, Monday, 16 March 2020 19:13 (six years ago)

Sorry see it

stet, Monday, 16 March 2020 19:13 (six years ago)

Is going for a run or a walk in the park OK if you don't get too close to people?

they did explicitly say in the presser that those who are shielding themselves should stay inside *except for taking exercise*. so i think if you need to go for a run, walk the dog, or ride your bike then you're golden. you might need to think of how you safely leave your flat if you have a shared entrance / lift etc. maybe wear disposable dog poo bags on your hands or is that going too far?

redundant post cos xps plz delete

ymo sumac (NickB), Monday, 16 March 2020 19:14 (six years ago)


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