2020 Democratic presidential primary thread, pt 3: life is very long

I watched "Shaun of the Dead" with my kids instead of the debate, which felt more relevant to current events. From a scan of this thread, it sounds like probably nobody said or did anything likely to significantly change the race. Is that accurate?

pretty much

bernie referred to coronavirus as "ebola" three times in a row, within the same answer, before catching himself. that alone is enough to distract biden supporters with proof of sanders' senility. biden used the "Number One ______, Number Two _____" device about a dozen times tonight, enough to distract me as possible evidence of his senility.

i wanted to see sanders put pressure on biden to move to the left. i'm not sure that he successfully did that during this debate. but i did hear biden say that he now supported free public college tuition - i'm not sure if that's old news or not, but it was news to me.

i just felt sad during this debate.

(sorry about that last sentence, just being honest. i know it's not helpful)

Means tested college tuition

i just felt sad during this debate.

I would have too. I was already sad about the state of this race before the pandemic, and watching the federal disaster of that unfold has really really made me wish there was a really strong, confidence-inspiring alternative being offered up and I just don’t feel that at all. I know either of them would be miles better than where we are and would hopefully put good people in charge of federal agencies and would listen to science etc. Still. Neither of them are the kind of person where I think, “Oh yeah, I would definitely put him in charge of the world’s most powerful bureaucracy.”

enough to distract biden supporters with proof of sanders' senility
enough to distract me as possible evidence of his senility

You always manage to make me laugh, KM.

Insanity:

https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article241162246.html?

“We are definitely voting,” Gov. Ron DeSantis said Friday. “They voted during the Civil War. We’re going to vote.”

gotta rush it in before Biden voters die / while Bernie voters are staying home to protect the olds

caught a bit of the debate; didn't seem likely to move the needle much. Biden seemed awake which was probably enough

My takeaway from debate: Sanders, when able to speak softly and without having to talk over Mayo Pete, sounds much more empathetic, smart and Presidential than Biden. However, for a win Bernie had a hope that Biden would have a Rubio or Rick Perry moment that crystallized people’s doubts about him. Didn’t happen. Race is over.

biden sounded much better than the recent talk about his cogency would suggest

honestly wondering about the non-zero chance that sanders, biden, or trump contracts the virus

Yeah, he did, which was depressing in a way - he didn't seem like he was forgetting or mixing up things; he was just lying and dodging his ass off and getting away with it.

which, to be fair, is very presidential

I feel like no one was paying attention at all

Least of all the candidates themselves.

life is divided into the horrible and the miserable etc

he was just lying and dodging his ass off and getting away with it.

Having not watched before 2016, has there ever been a time in the era of televised debates where moderators or broadcasters actually told the viewers when candidates were wildly lying?

um excuse me,it’s called “claiming without evidence”. And the modern way to handle it, as Bernie demonstrated last night, is to ask everyone to “go to the YouTube” to find the truth

I've heard that same audio excerpt but sanders, I believe, it taking it out of context

It is my recommendation that we postpone in-person voting until June 2, 2020. #COVID19 #COVID19OhioReady

— Governor Mike DeWine (@GovMikeDeWine) March 16, 2020

And the modern way to handle it, as Bernie demonstrated last night, is to ask everyone to “go to the YouTube” to find the truth

sorry, I'm still too busy going to Joe 30330

I guess primaries are happening. Anyway:

NEW Univision poll of Florida

All registered voters:

Biden - 63%
Sanders - 25%

Among Florida Latino voters:
Biden - 48%
Sanders - 40%

Latinos broken down...
Cubans
Sanders - 47%
Biden - 46%

Puerto Ricans
Biden - 53%
Sanders - 38%

— Laura Barrón-López (@lbarronlopez) March 16, 2020

Cubans
Sanders - 47%
Biden - 46%

idgi. is there some age split thing happening here?

lol at my Cubans:

In general elex matchup, Latinos go for Biden over Trump, per Univision...

Total Florida Latinos
Biden - 53%
Trump - 34%

Cubans
Trump - 59%
Biden - 30%

Puerto Ricans
Biden - 63%
Trump 21%

Other Latinos in state
Biden - 63%
Trump - 26%

Poll conducted March 6-12 pic.twitter.com/i8KUJpf7TU

— Laura Barrón-López (@lbarronlopez) March 16, 2020

So is that why they prefer Sanders in the Dem primary? Those who don't vote Republican anyway?

I think Sanders might overperform in areas or demographics where the total Democratic percentage of the electorate is smaller. He won a few very rural precincts in my county, which were places with very few Democratic primary voters.

i feel like i get the brainwormed cubans slightly more than the 21% of puerto ricans tbh, but i don’t even understand the brainwormers in my family so

Maryland primary postponed until June. Fuck Covid, fuck the DNC, and fuck this year in general.

what does the DNC have to do with Maryland's primary?

Biden's gonna be the nominee, right? It doesn't matter.

the dc primary is always in june. fuck maryland and virginia!

otm

Primaries should not be taking place in physical locations at all right now, and the entire federal election should be prepared to take place by mail right now (and with paper ballots forever)

Really surprised these three states went ahead with voting today.

not going well by the accounts I'm seeing

yeah it was irresponsible not to delay

Hopefully Neera Tanden's quotes on it greet her at the river Styx.

I don't see what sanders sees he's getting from staying in and getting quietly slaughtered, though at this point he barely makes the news by leaving

there's a ton to be gained by him staying in, esp. given the current crisis, he's got as good a platform as he'll ever have to highlight this system's failings and push the party left

Hillary's line about RFK getting shot but it's coronavirus

ha that too

it might be easier to push the party left when you're not highlighting how unpopular your message is w/ real voters

More people in Florida turned out to vote today than in 2016. https://t.co/GaBBkqsbCp

— Samuel Sinyangwe (@samswey) March 18, 2020

all of this seems so remote to me at the moment

Have stopped worrying/caring about this whole situation.

xxp his message is popular w/ real voters, it's evidently *him* that's not

Looks like Marie Newman finally took out Dan Lipinski from the (relative) left.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/illinois-rep-lipinski-trails-insurgent-in-high-profile-democratic-primary-rematch/2020/03/17/6be4fdae-6863-11ea-9923-57073adce27c_story.html

Rep. Daniel Lipinski (D-Ill.), one of the last antiabortion Democrats in Congress, trailed his more liberal challenger, Marie Newman, in early primary returns Tuesday.
The race has been closely watched as a test of whether a socially conservative Democrat could maintain support among the party’s base voters in a solid blue seat.
While Lipinski won support from trade unions and some business groups in his bid for a ninth term, key national advocacy groups and liberal activist networks coalesced behind Newman as a better match for a district that preferred Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential race by 15 percentage points over Donald Trump.
With 84 percent of precincts reporting, Newman held a roughly 2,600-vote lead — about three percentage points.

his message is popular with real voters, the party is desperately shouting at voters that he can't get through so they shouldn't vote for him

his message is popular w/ real voters, it's evidently *him* that's not

line I hear a lot is "he's got good ideas, but he's so angry and negative all the time and we already have a guy like that in the White House" and it's like...dude, have you not seen Joe utterly lose his mind every time a voter challenges him in the slightest

"Joe utterly lose his mind every time a voter challenges him in the slightest" does not feel threatening and is the aspect of him I like the most