bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

she's done a few great pieces of investigate journalism on topics that deserve much more attention, yet personally seems like a real snide, disingenuous, negative shite w/ a myopic and undeserved righteous indignation abt the local press that helps fuel her strong sense of resentment

― ogmor, Friday, 13 March 2020 bookmarkflaglink

It's like a textbook example of someone who should not be on twitter.

i can definitively state that i wouldn't pay 99p to read the thoughts of Chairman Rory

is it the journal he wrote about all the free accommodation he's been getting? dari of a scrimpy kid

Labour's call seems eminently reasonable to me. I do worry it will lead to more of the utter shitshow on Twitter right now and SEO experts making more Medium posts with graphs, but it might also help epidemologists understand this thinking

― stet, Friday, 13 March 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Don't think it's enough as stated in that tweet. The government have abdicated on their responsibility to lead, leaving the premier League to cancel matches etc. A lot of the decision making on what someone does or does not do is at the private sector layer.

The government doesn't really want people to cancel matches, afaict. It's counter to the strategy which is "make people who can survive it catch it".

https://www.irishpost.com/news/old-boris-johnson-quote-jaws-mayor-hero-resurfaces-amid-coronavirus-crisis-181536

stet - yes, so surely they should advise/insist that the league to carry on?

And show their working. This strategy will not sit straight with people. Hence all sorts of public/private actors taking their own measures.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31vc3DrhK5L._SY200_.jpg

"Caught between hostile nations, warring factions and competing ideologies, at the time Afghanistan was in turmoil following the US invasion. Travelling entirely on foot and following the inaccessible mountainous route once taken by the Mogul Emperor, Babur the Great, Stewart was nearly defeated by the extreme, hostile conditions. Only with the help of an unexpected companion and the generosity of the people he met on the way did he survive to report back with unique insight on a region closed to the world by twenty-four years of war."

This is a thread on what universities are doing, which is basically all sorts.

First, some good news. A small number of universities have now stepped up. Notably, Durham University drew on their own staff expertise to model #Covid_19 impacts in the staff/student community and decided to move teaching online from next week https://t.co/Dwehk16z8l

— USSbriefs is on strike #UCUstrike (@USSbriefs) March 13, 2020

No fucking way are any Premier League clubs going to unnecessarily risk the health of players they've spent millions on. I wouldn't be surprised if they were all under house arrest at this point.

But still if that's the government strategy they should be saying they don't agree with the League's decision because they are not helping in making us all immune to it.

Yeah, this is where I'm definitely not defending them. Perhaps they really do have some mad nudgers telling them to neither prohibit nor encourage big events.

As someone else just pointed out to me, it does seem extremely odd not to start cancelling events that you know are going to hit right at the peak, like the London Marathon. Perhaps they just haven't got there yet, because an -/+ 20,000 cases is going to be neither here nor there at that point.

I mean, by the time of the local elections if we carry on the path we're on and none of the measures are effective we'd have 4,833,280 cases, so even with mitigation it's going to be Big Number time by then.

Marathon just got postponed to October BTW.

I really did think they wouldn't cancel the local elections. Obviously good luck in getting volunteers etc., and I guess it's clear how yesterday's thinking -- whatever it's merits -- has no chance of being carried out unless you are showing your working and it's peer reviewed.

Distancing now happening across unis.

Plus UEA, Bristol, Birmingham, KCL, Leicester, Northumbria, Southampton, Central Lancs, IDS, Liverpool ... possibly also QMUL, Royal Holloway (crowd-sourced information and so there may be errors) ... https://t.co/pNdlVVXa8L

— Gurminder K Bhambra (@GKBhambra) March 13, 2020

We got an email from the vc at Sussex who basically said they were just going to follow the official recommendations so for the moment we carry on, and then he signed it off with 'all the best' and I just pictured him slamming the door on the escape pod as he closed the laptop and then blasting off into space with a cackle

dari of a scrimpy kid

no, look, absolutely not

lmao

Yeah wasn't quite fully formed that, apols

The Tories should not be cancelling their own events. Maybe they can move this to another venue?

Sir Graham Brady has just emailed Conservative MPs telling them that the House of Commons "has cancelled all events" pic.twitter.com/dQOR5q7opI

— Adam Payne (@adampayne26) March 13, 2020

Amazing

What. The fuck.

they don't even believe in their own advice, why the fuck should anyone else?

Pretty irresonsible of the BBC to run Sport Relief tonight, if anything's going to send thousands of people out of the house it'll be escaping that shit.

what the fuck is sport relief about? I was out of the country from 2002-2016 and it is one of these inexplicable things that just appeared while I was away, like pulled pork and superdry and jack whitehall

They do it every other year instead of Comic Relief, it's hard to tell the difference because neither of them are funny or feature any actual sport afaik

BBC are really punishing us tomorrow with Mrs Brown’s Boys repeat instead of cancelled football.

i'm just gonna squint and tell myself it's an extended interview with Steve Bruce

https://www.sportrelief.com/sites/default/files/styles/fixed_ratio_image_lg_x1/public/2020-02/presenters_0.jpg?itok=-j-NHkkL

look at the fucking state of this lot, get Rory McGrath on the job!

R4 not following govt advice either, no audience in tonight's ep of Any Questions.

I’ve had this explained to me properly now: it’s not that they are encouraging big events in order to spread it, it’s that they don’t believe stopping them will have much effect, especially as the numbers mount.

Which is the point Vallance was making yesterday: they are advising on national policy - what should happen as a country - and at that level closing events doesn’t move the numbers enough for them to want to do it now. At the level of an event organiser, you might have a different perspective.

This is all so weird and surreal and horrible.

the irony of Carolyn Fairbairn stanning for the continuation of the economy (and something like "and the continued creation of wealth so society can benefit from this..) and the ideas behind Herd Immunity on a show where they've canned the live audience because these fuckers don't want to want be part of vanguard of the herd of death!

Looking forward to Question Time without an audience.

unfortunately racists have facetime these days

they do on the BBC

Has anything at all been written or said about how the UK's pointlessly punitive welfare system is supposed to work in this situation? Are people going to be forced to go into job centres or face getting their benefits stopped?

Shit just got real pic.twitter.com/NrztjeOxZd

— Tyto Pollens #FBP🌮 (@TytoPollens) March 13, 2020

as i recall the dole can hassle people quite a lot from home just by checking logins to their jobsite and stuff like that

This 1922 committee shit convinces me they want to protect themselves but not us and I don't give a fuck if they show their working now.

My two cents to stets faith in epidemiologists upthread:
The advice the gov is taking from scientists is largely coming from the London school of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine which largely directs its research efforts at third world contexts. I think this is why the language and approach we've heard is so coldly calculated in terms of population percentages and numbers rather than really implying actual human cost. This is a colonial gaze directed at a population that it considers less than human. And as with much lshtm epidemiological work, it disregards program knowledge from other aspects of public health and instead fetishizes a model. I too think that the nudge stuff is being overblown, but the faith in epidemiological models definitely real and is arrogant lunacy as it always is. the models never work and they won't in this instance either. they will afterwards turn to other more community-based forms of knowledge to 'fill in the gaps' of what they missed, and it will largely be drawn from other public health contexts where they realise that they need to take into account issues around for eg. feelings of vulnerability by elderly people. Ultimately this is how the world looks in a country that has started to see its own population as colonial subjects and it is why the UK approach looks so different to other countries.

tl;dr, burn down bloomsbury (get out suzy!)

plax otm

Yeah my one fear is that Johnson's churchillian moment will be a resemble the bengal famine rather than dunkirk

Ugh phone

the price of bulk buying toilet rolls on e-bay has followed the late Weimar model of hyperinflation. The 108 pack of PDC brand basic 2 ply rolls I got for £16.49 on the 7th March is now going from anything from £37.99 to £100 +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfionMmCGoU

WHO director general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus exhorting Europe to step up its actions:

“Not testing alone,” he said. “Not contact tracing alone. Not quarantine alone. Not social distancing alone. Do it all. Find, isolate, test and treat every case, to break the chains of transmission … Do not just let this fire burn.”

Yeah whatever dude

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/european-countries-take-radical-steps-to-combat-coronavirus

Not much disagreement from me there tbh ico.

lol an advert for Football Index has just been on, no refunds eh guys?