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yeah again, not to be all deadhead-ish but the early ones you read aren’t so good

brimstead, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:39 (six years ago)

idk I thought the ones I listed were all over the place time-wise. The one we just read (Flight 714) is one of the last ones - ends with a totally nonsensical deus ex machina after a bunch of convoluted capture/rescue/shootout sequences with too many characters

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:43 (six years ago)

yeah I loved that one as a kid. You’re probably right.

brimstead, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:44 (six years ago)

Flight 714 rules fuiud

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:44 (six years ago)

Besides the racism, the other obvious issue is that Tintin is a child doing an adult job.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:46 (six years ago)

it just feels like none of his stuff follows any kind of standard narrative structure - there's no themes, no sense of pacing the action, no building-to-a-climax, no real resolution, a lot of these stories feel like just a lot of random stuff that happens as an excuse to draw Tintin in a jungle, or a desert, or in a submarine or whatever.

xps

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:46 (six years ago)

Tintin is a child doing an adult job.

haha yeah is this ever given any kind of explanation? I feel like after having read a lot of these I should have some grasp of where the character comes from and why he's in the position he's in and yet... like, where is his family? is he an orphan? Does he have a job (sometimes he appears to be a reporter, for some reason)? Why does he do any of the shit he does?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:50 (six years ago)

and don't say "it's for children, who cares!" Uncle Scrooge's motivations and defining characteristics, as a counter-example, are crystal clear. Even Little Nemo is based on a premise that serves to explain all the nonsense.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:52 (six years ago)

fwiw when i love comics did a poll like 15 years ago tintin ranked no. 1!

tintin himself is kind of a strange character -- not just ageless but kind of without any real personality at all, he's more like a stand-in for the reader than anything

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:53 (six years ago)

yeah it's v weird, he's a nullity

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:59 (six years ago)

which is by intention, I would think.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:59 (six years ago)

Herge himself seems to have been something of an empty vessel*, who also started his life's career as a school-aged teenager.

* he married a coworker on the orders of their boss, who kept a portrait of Mussolini in the office and conducted the wedding ceremony

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 12 March 2020 18:53 (six years ago)

The reason Tintin is a kid doing an adults job is because the strip was originally about teaching kids about the world. It was a newspaper strip in the kid section of a right-wing newspaper, and was just meant to indoctrinate about Soviet, Congo, US, etc.

It never really moved beyond that serialized mentality. Every page is it's own thing, and yeah, a lot of it is bad excuses for pretty drawings. That was indeed the point.

Frederik B, Friday, 13 March 2020 08:09 (six years ago)

Britney Spears is a Republican.

rusted (crüt), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:14 (six years ago)

In the 1991 Nardwuar vs Sonic Youth interview, Nardwuar was the bully and SY were within their rights to lash out.

Sund4r, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 11:18 (six years ago)

I have no idea what anybody finds amusing about that terrible terrible cunt

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 11:21 (six years ago)

^^ otfm. Baffled by the love for him. I don't get the "nardwuar is a national treasure he may not die!" but I'm guessing it's one of those #lolUSA things I'm better off not understanding anyway (yes, I know he's Canadian).

Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 11:52 (six years ago)

I don't understand why everybody doesn't just headbutt the fucker and then kick him to death tbh

A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 12:00 (six years ago)

the man does research!

ogmor, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 12:11 (six years ago)

????????

brimstead, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 18:10 (six years ago)

#lolUSA

brimstead, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 18:51 (six years ago)

Films aren’t art.

― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, September 25, 2019 8:42 AM (six months ago)

came here to post this again, oh well.

All my posts in this thread are good

silby, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:22 (six years ago)

Dance isn't art.

How am I doing?

coco vide (pomenitul), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:24 (six years ago)

could try harder

silby, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:26 (six years ago)

saying things aren't art is performance

Evan, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:31 (six years ago)

Saying it's performance to say things aren't art is performance.

coco vide (pomenitul), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:33 (six years ago)

it's not art to say that saying it's performance to say things aren't art is performance

Evan, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:36 (six years ago)

Performance art is bad art

Frederik B, Thursday, 2 April 2020 08:00 (six years ago)

one month passes...

that famous dorothy parker dismissal of the winnie the pooh books is stupid and wrong and not even particularly clever ("tonstant weader fwowed up" or whatever)

i don't know if this is controversial but ppl love to quote that review for some reason

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:30 (six years ago)

it's wrong but it's funny

Elon's musk (sic), Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:38 (six years ago)

the former never matters when the latter is true

Flaneuring Bevan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:39 (six years ago)

otm

kim rong un (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:45 (six years ago)

is it actually funny tho

budo jeru, Thursday, 7 May 2020 11:42 (six years ago)

kinda up to individual

winnie the pooh wont hit everyone the same way, neither will parker's zing of it, this seems a somewhat universal kind of phenomenon

kim rong un (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 May 2020 11:45 (six years ago)

it's wrong but it's funny

― Elon's musk (sic), Thursday, May 7, 2020 11:38 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm, also new board description, etc.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 May 2020 11:45 (six years ago)

J B Morton's put-downs of A A Milne were better, of which this is my fave:

Hush, hush,
Nobody cares!
Christopher Robin
Has
Fallen
Down-
Stairs.

fetter, Thursday, 7 May 2020 12:05 (six years ago)

That is a good one.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 May 2020 12:08 (six years ago)

the parker review wasn't of the books it was of a broadway adaptation

Mordy, Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:34 (six years ago)

oh nevermind i misremembered. she mostly reviewed theater and i thought it was an adaptation she was reviewing but looking up the review i see it was of the book oops

Mordy, Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:36 (six years ago)

fp

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:42 (six years ago)

I am a huge Dorothy stan but, she didn't have children. Her review of a children's book was then, and is now, an amusing footnote.

Rodent of usual size (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:47 (six years ago)

HOWEVER

when she (in her role as a theater reviewer) absolutely savaged an obviously treacly and stupid A.A. Milne play I was totally cool with it

Rodent of usual size (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:48 (six years ago)

i also remembered it being a theater adaptation she was reviewing (as i said above) but can only find a book review now. mandela effect :/

Mordy, Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:51 (six years ago)

oh i see now she did review Milne's Give Me Yesterday

https://ochsnerblog.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/screen-shot-2020-03-23-at-10.10.54-am.png

Mordy, Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:54 (six years ago)

Yeah there's a bit where somebody is tapping out like rudimentary code for "I love you" and it's pretty cringey.

That said, the book review was out of line so I agree with J.D.

Rodent of usual size (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 May 2020 15:23 (six years ago)

Does the New Yorker still review popular childrens' books?

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 May 2020 15:28 (six years ago)

nah

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:52 (six years ago)

oh btw i like dorothy parker! her short stories were cool. she just probably wasn't the target audience for the gently paced adventures of a group of neurotic stuffed animals.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 8 May 2020 07:16 (six years ago)

I think the time has probably come for everyone to quit it with the (((twitter names))) - the point has been made now.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 May 2020 22:12 (six years ago)


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