2020 Democratic presidential primary thread, pt 3: life is very long

Would those endorsements have depressed African American turnout or encouraged more young people?

one more time: it wouldn't have made Bernie win, it just would have given the left a better bargaining position

xp The people who dug Reagan were unperturbed by his evident dementia and still, even now, remember his administration with an overwhelming put-this-guy's-face-on-a-coin level of fondness. I think if Biden wins, the people who dig Biden are gonna keep on digging President Biden.

They're all too fucking old, and if they aren't losing it now, all three of them could be losing it in a month, a year, two years ...

If the ceiling on people who don't like the Democratic Party but vote for it anyway is 30-35%, eventually they'll have to decline to 'vote blue no matter who' in greater numbers to have their needs and desires listened to, if not met.

okay what happens in your world if the hostage taking works and then the moderates start hostage taking and not voting for the democrats

Thank goodness for Chris Hayes for being the only MSNBC person to mention the Dems "will have a real problem" if the Biden generation can't address "climate change" and problems since the Great Recession among those under 35.

I think it's just like...people who vote for a cloud will continue to insist that said cloud looks like, say, a jaunty jackrabbit frolicking in meadow, no matter how much that cloud may drift or dissipate over time. It's THEIR fucken cloud and they get to define its shape, reality be damned.

okay what happens in your world if the hostage taking works and then the moderates start hostage taking and not voting for the democrats

Guess we'll see who blinks first?

I think if we do manage to take the senate in the fall, the traumatic bisection of the democratic party will be following sometime soon thereafter.

Not that it matters, enough will fall in line to not happen in the foreseeable future - and the left will get blamed regardless if Dementia Joe loses.

Is it bad that I want Biden to go on a tour of telling potential voters that they are full of shit?

that should be his convention speech

Biden wins Michigan.

Sanders loses white vote by six percent.

Biden easily wins the infamous Macomb "Reagan Democrat" County by 18 points.

Biden's even winning the rural counties in which Sanders triumphed.

the Clyburn endorsement appears to have been game changing

DA MAYUN WHO SAVED DA DEMOCRAHTIC PAWTY acc to that great statesman James Carville

Lots of people feel a vital kinship with a fellow sundowner. Trump's going to have to get even more incoherent to win them back.

Lol at the idea that Biden will do anything about global warming.

I think that "let's stop fucking around" phone call by Boss 'Racky was game changing

ok I see someone's gonna nerd out over returns breakdowns for another 3 hours, g'night

I would love to see the Biden who debated Ryan taking on Trump in the debates this fall. Unfortunately, that is not the Biden we're working with rn.

60% of Mississippi Democrats apparently support "replacing all private health insurance with a single government plan for everyone," the thing Biden specifically said he'd veto last night. lol

MSNBC still repeating the notion that Bernie is about “revolution.” Oy vey.

If he drops out after tonight the Times is going to have to scrap so many red bait stories they've got lined up.

Bernie should stay in but campaign lightly, just to keep Biden out on the road meeting COVID vectors.

nb: we're all fucking doomed

i am nursing the hope that biden picks a not entirely awful running mate but even that feels like misplaced hope anyway see y'all in november

MSNBC reporting (accurately, afaict) that Bernie Sanders has taken to waving the flag of the USSR at all public appearances and is pejoratively referring to our citizenry as Amerikanskis?! this is highly irregular!

i'm so mad at joe biden for ever running

I’m not voting for Biden in November.

we live in new york treesh that is not a brave choice

The Democrats could have at least given us a respectable moderate. This is so bleak.

Lol I know. I would vote for him in a swing state I guess.

You guess? How brave.

Nominate a half-decent VP and play up the "he might die in office" angle to rope back in disaffected voters.

VP Stacy Abrams and rumors of a heart condition might get me to pull the lever

Still voting for Bernie next week, blue no matter who in November, looking forward to the epochal secession of the Progressive Party not too long thereafter.

I voted for Warren last week. I'l vote for Biden in November without the slightest hesitation.

obviously not voting for Biden under any circumstances, but also in a safe state

I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that a week and a half ago he was the goddamn front runner and now his campaign is essentially over

MA voter, will not be voting for Joe Biden

i am voting for bernie in the new york primary which when is that again

oh yeah, at the end of april

So much of the uh conversation has changed in the last month (coronavirus, turnout) that I'm less chagrined by Biden's victory.

Florida voter here.

If you live in a blue state I genuinely am sorry your vote doesn’t really matter but I also don’t give half a shit that you won’t vote for Biden either.

treeship look what an amazing waste of time you’ve set off

treeship why did you make bernie run for president again

I’m not sorry my vote doesn’t matter! It’s a privilege not to have to hold my nose.

I'm delighted so many of you have learned so much from high school government classes to conclude that not voting for a candidate contributes won't affect their electoral totals. You must have forgotten how "safe" states like Philadelphia, Wisconsin, etc fell in the Trump margin by small margins.

Haha fair as long as you acknowledge it

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