Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

No such thing as halfway crooks anti-establishment firebrands.

I wonder who all these asian americans are that aren't highly suspicious of surveys/polling.

silby, I think you may have stumbled on something.

- years of Senate experience cultivating relationships with both Democrats and Republicans

ok lol

You can lol if you want to but this matters to a non-negligible number of people. These are the people Sanders needs to sell himself to. I think, instead, he is making the same mistake Warren made and is selling his policy ideas.

like the country badly needs M4A and Biden is a motherfucker for snickering at the idea but it needs a colossal investment in passenger rail infrastructure at all scales too, if Biden wants trans millennials to support him he really needs to start talking about trains because they all love trains almost as much as health insurance

it's true the youth fuckin love trains

He would get the vote of my six-year-olds in a hearbeat

AMABtrak

Bernie can't say anything other than "yeah, he can."

You can lol if you want to but this matters to a non-negligible number of people.

It is unfortunately correct that a large number of people care about being Dems being professional and friendly with the power paedos.

Unless he decides to resign from the Senate immediately if he doesn't lock up the nomination.

Bernie can't say anything other than "yeah, he can."

Something snapped in me and now I've become convinced that his only path forward is to make the case that Biden is in face not safe or electable, and since he's not willing to do that (I wasn't joking before when I said he was too nice!) he's probably fucked.

Unless he decides to resign from the Senate immediately if he doesn't lock up the nomination.

... Why would he do that?

*fact, Biden's face is...fine I guess xp

Why people vote this and that way elides that people can be wrong about why they vote and it's not racist/sexist/etc. to say they're wrong and making a bad choice. We all agree that many of the people who voted for Trump - like the vaunted Obama-to-Trump pipeline - were wrong for this reason or that. The people who get interviewed and were just sure that Trump was actually the candidate who'd bring about nationalized healthcare.

lol, Biden's unsafe face

what a baroque way to call someone ugly

... Why would he do that?

I'm saying if he went scorched earth and actually poisoned the well with soundbites about Biden's complete unelectability. He'd have to hide in the Vermont cabin/mansion just to evade the ensuing shitstorm.

he's gotta resign someday. might as well torch the bridges.

He also can't do it because a Biden loss is going to be blamed on him regardless but at a certain point of criticism it would be used against anyone who endorsed him/has ever met with him/said something nice about him that one time.

at a certain point of criticism it would be used against anyone who endorsed him/has ever met with him/said something nice about him that one time

oh no, how will Marianne Williamson ever recover?!

Why people vote this and that way elides that people can be wrong about why they vote and it's not racist/sexist/etc. to say they're wrong and making a bad choice. We all agree that many of the people who voted for Trump - like the vaunted Obama-to-Trump pipeline - were wrong for this reason or that.

christ this sanctimonious horseshit. People may be stupid - and you and I are free to think so - but their votes are *their* votes, they aren't "wrong".

people can and do certainly base their votes on shit that's plainly, demonstrably not true. I think it's fair to call those votes "wrong".

Yes, they're wrong. That it's "their" vote is irrelevant, people own choices that are incorrect all the time.

It's a wrong choice to bareback your high school girlfriend or get drunk and drive 100 miles an hour or vote for someone who is going to make the world a worse place.

man I genuinely don't think "people are stupid" is a meaningful analysis of anything. Maybe that's off topic

Note that Shakes is the one who said "people are stupid" not me. People make wrong choices for all kinds of reasons, it has nothing to do with intelligence.

Shakey calling something sanctimonious is an honor, though, it's like having Sinatra compliment your performance of "My Way."

lol

Why people vote this and that way elides that people can be wrong about why they vote and it's not racist/sexist/etc. to say they're wrong and making a bad choice. We all agree that many of the people who voted for Trump - like the vaunted Obama-to-Trump pipeline - were wrong for this reason or that. The people who get interviewed and were just sure that Trump was actually the candidate who'd bring about nationalized healthcare.

many xposts obv

Sinatra hated My Way fyi

Nobody has two votes so nobody's wrong?

Ever?

ever ever?

(Well, I had three votes for Bernie but that's just because two of my dead grandparents were still on the election rolls.)

A worthwhile look at some of what went on behind the scenes in the Warren camp.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/06/warren-team-wonders-how-they-blew-it-122628

Meanwhile, in FL, a Republican commits fraud on 119 voter records

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/lake/os-lk-voter-fraud-lake-county-cheryl-hall-20200305-42stwdmc65g77aob3ennsmgeay-story.html

xp: The lesson for me would be: the Democratic election is a decade (or longer) affair. Develop personal relationships with African American House members. They're way more important than any number of plans, as there aren't enough wonks in the electorate.

No one, ever.... is to blame.

No one's ever wrong, no one's ever to blame, it just didn't work out between me and you, babe - ain't it a shame?

There are no mistakes in love

You can look at the menu
But you just can't eat

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/83/DwightYoakamBlametheVain.jpg

The AP on Sanders' strategy or lack thereof: https://apnews.com/d84e7134e893f67b2f3751a2a581a9a2?fbclid=IwAR3IwQXK7PCVqSVpx2Th3KqjPFCqLy_pwI9yeRcE7ycfAnSPGFvBq9_OO5U

Featuring political advice from Marianne Williamson.

And apologies if this is posted upthread and I missed it, but Nate Silver is raining on Bernie's parade.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/after-super-tuesday-joe-biden-is-a-clear-favorite-to-win-the-nomination/

I hope the new touchscreen voting machines make it easier for me to do a write-in than when I had to spin a wheel for each letter.

Pretty sure there's been no bernie parades since tuesday

Damn, Michael Harriot is not pulling punches here

https://www.theroot.com/an-open-letter-to-white-liberals-blaming-low-informatio-1842100419

This is sobering, the whole thread:

I've talked to TOO MANY black Southern voters this week (and during my life) I wanna stop and explain the concept of "the establishment" to some people and why a lot of black Southern voters will NEVER vote for Bernie.
— michaelharriot (@michaelharriot) March 6, 2020
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, March 6, 2020 11:47 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

wait for it...

Admittedly, that comes with cynicism.
Here is an example:

1 woman told me that Bernie is too "obsessed" with M4A. She believes he'll sell anything out to get it done. Then she shocked the f*ck out of me by explaining something I had never heard of.

— michaelharriot (@michaelharriot) March 6, 2020

She explained that she had read Bernie's M4A plan and didn't like it because it would essentially eliminate private insurance. And, she said, negotiating prescription drugs removed financial incentives for innovating.

Turns out, she was retired from a medical company

— michaelharriot (@michaelharriot) March 6, 2020

At least one of the people whose tweets he used is a black man.

Which is the awesome thing about making cases about what twitter proves - half the people are using funny avatars with the name of their favorite Sopranos character as a username.

The AP article quotes Deidre DeJear as a neutral party who just couldn't get the time of day from Sanders... she was Kamala Harris's Iowa campaign chair.