ILx "first mentions"

Trevor wrote this on thread What are you reading on board I Love Everything on Dec 5, 2001

European Human Rights Law - Keir Starmer. By far the most comprehensive book on human rights around. Way way overdue, and for someone like me, indispensable.

During his 138-day tenure, Wigan achieved 19 points from a possible 72 winning 5 games of 24 played in the Championship.

Nandy OTM it turns out.

Posted upthread (by me). Fuck trying to find RLB though, that name’s unsearchable.


Tensions between Labour MPs spilled over into heated confrontations as Clive Lewis, an ally of Corbyn, argued in a Westminster corridor with John Woodcock, who is backing airstrikes. Woodcock has now lodged a complaint with the whips over the exchange, which ended with “fuck you” from Lewis.
Lewis said there had been many robust exchanges across the party. He has said he would be happy to apologise.

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 December 2015

This might be it:

still think that the best case scenario for Labour is Corbyn standing down before the next election and being replaced by someone else from the left of the party (Clive Lewis, Rebecca Long-Bailey, Abbott) - obv the right will fight tooth and nail to keep this from happening, though.

― soref, Monday, 9 January 2017 19:07 (three years ago) link

Tracer Hand (tracerhand) wrote this on thread SARS on board I Love Everything on May 23, 2003

'Professor Wickramasinghe admits there is no hard evidence for his theory; and researchers who have been working on Sars reacted with a mixture of disbelief and ridicule.
There is nothing strange about the Sars coronavirus, they said; it certainly evolved from other known viruses.

One leading expert said Professor Wickramasinghe's letter "must be a joke"; another said it is simply ridiculous.'

surely it is the Professor's name that is the joke here?!@@

Ned Raggett wrote this on thread what are you reading when not on ILE on board I Love Everything on Jul 15, 2001

Is that Huntford's background? Fascinating, I thought he was a Marxist if anything! Certainly he spares nothing towards the late Victorian empire. Guess I had to be there.
I agree that Huntford seems to leave Scott almost nothing, but here and there he acknowledges his gifts -- a good conversationalist and in one telling incident regarding the scientists at McMurdo Sound accompanying the expedition but not part of the naval chain of command, an amiable and enthusiastic participant in general technical debate. Huntford notes that Scott would have been a brilliant scientific popularizer, which suits the positive part of his personality -- but on no account should he have had anything to do with command and responsibility for lives. (My dad was an excellent US Navy officer himself, so I speak from the heart on that one -- you can't have an indecisive, non- planning waffler in charge.)

Other good reads in history/biography I've come across:

Jacques Barzun, _From Dawn to Decadence_ -- a massive, idiosyncratic and fascinating personal study of Western European culture and its offshoots from the Reformation to now. Amusingly even mentions Garbage near the very end. Very French, well worth it.

W. Bruce Lincoln, _In War's Dark Shadow_ -- enjoyable popular history of Russia in the final years of czardom before World War I. A good counterpart to the equally readable if limited Robert Massie volume _Nicholas and Alexandra_, in that Lincoln focuses on the country and culture rather than the monarchs. If you've ever read Moorcock's first Colonel Pyat volume _Byzantium Endures_ (or plan on it), this is extremely good reading to accompany it. But having mentioned Massie, credit where credit is due:

Robert Massie, _Peter the Great_ and _Dreadnought_ -- the first is actually my girlfriend's favorite book, and I can see why, it's a very good narrative take on the Russian emperor, perhaps a little too worshipful but generally tries not to excuse his brutalities (and certainly makes clear the social context in which he learned them). _Dreadnought_ studies the naval war race in Europe before World War I.

Edmund White, _Jean Genet_ -- White's recent bio of Genet, exhaustive and a bit exhausting (I'm still not done reading it, who knows when I'll get back to it!). Helps to situate Genet vis-a-vis his depicted narrative self in texts like _Our Lady of the Flowers_.

Theodore Draper, _A Struggle for Power_ -- another one I need to finally finish, but what I read of it a cogent analysis of where power was located in the 13 colonies before the American Revolution and how that in turn helped feed the eventual Revolution itself. A reasonable power-politics take on an overly hallowed event.

B. Netanyahu, _The Origins of the Inquisition_ -- distinctly non-light reading, this hefty tome; an extremely in-depth study of the Inquisition as it originated in Spain, with particular focus on the insidious switch in focus from religion (practicing Jew or not?) to bloodlines (descended from a Jew or not?), the implications of which don't need to be spelled out, I trust. Horrifying but necessary knowledge.

Fawn Brodie, _No Man Knows My History_ -- doubtless Anthony knows this one! The holy grail of sorts for anti- and ex-Mormons, Brodie's is the definitive biography of Joseph Smith, continually fought against since by Morg-approved historians (notably the utterly flipped out Hugh Nibley) but as yet still unchallenged from a strictly unbiased point of view. Doesn't so much seek to destroy Smith as situate and humanize him. Mormon history itself is one of my particular fascinations, and there's a lot of stuff out there. I'd also suggest two more recent 'true crime' books that actually do well at investigating modern Mormonism -- _A Gathering of Saints_ by Robert Lindsay, an excellent investigation of the Mark Hoffman letter frauds perpetrated on the LDS and the accompanying murders (many ex-Mormons point to this as a key moment that shook their faith, since the obvious implications was that the 'prophets of god' could not in fact recognize falsehood) and...* searches*...bother, can't find it and can't recall the exact title, but it's about a weird cult offshoot of the Reorganized LDS and is a fine study of that often-ignored segment of the Mormon population.

Edward Behr, _Kiss the Hand You Cannot Bite_ -- ostensibly a study of Nicole Ceascescu and his regime in Romania, but actually a quite fine study of Romania itself from the late nineteenth century to Romania's fall. Could use some updating.

Hm. More as they hit me.

(his dad, but still)

[Oh come on!!! Keith West's 'Excerpt From A Teenage Opera' aka 'Grocer Jack' is one of the finest records ever made, the children's choir being a key element in it, and indeed a lot of toytown psyche.
My first post. What fun.

― harvey williams, Wednesday, November 8, 2000 7:00 PM (nineteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Aw, The Field Mice get mentioned on a thread yesterday and now you dig out an old post by dear old Harvey. Those were the days.

he was a pioneer in the field of excerpting

original bgm wrote this on thread I really don't want to share this but I feel the need to. on board I Love Music on Mar 5, 2003

The Unborn Child sounds like a baby yoda! Awwwwwwww. ^___^

what was that chap called? dominic cummings?

― HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:35 PM (six years ago)

Thread was 'the concept of "talent": C/D?'

the concept of "talent": C/D?

Trawling through the results with just the surname is beyond my patience.

Not helped by the presence of the venerable and highly regarded ILXor, Mr Raymond Cummings.

♪♫ caek's corner ♪♫

Might have know nakh would have been first to mention him.

My searching skills leave something to be desired. Only a few days off though.

i only just started reading this piece this morning (and already lol-hiccuped at chinaski's first quote)

a few days back a US musicwriter (never an ilxor i don't think tho i have met them IRL) (they seemed nice!) announced with anticipatory pleasure that they were setting this piece aside to read "like slipping into a warm bath" which very nearly caused me to jump into a tweetbeef before i remembered "let ppl like things" sometimes has a kindness to it -- is good reading ever a warm bath? no. BUT relaxing warm baths are likely needful in These Trying Times™ and who knows what griefs and stresses this writer is currently dealing with -- so no beef for them this week

on the other hand (in anticipation of beef to come) lol wtf

― mark s, Friday, 5 June 2020 10:32 (forty-seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

A warm bath is just what you want after slitting your wrists iirc.

Orson Wellies (in orbit) wrote this on thread The Death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri on board I Love Everything on Aug 15, 2014

Like it is not acceptable for anyone to run on the "let's shoot em" ticket.

But all tickets are that ticket, unless/until they take explicitly take the position AGAINST being that ticket as a signature issue. That's what it means for white supremacy to be the default setting. That's why the term "anti-racism" is purposefully different from "not racist," because it has to be intentional or else things fall back to status quo, which is that black lives matter less.

goole wrote this on thread Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)? on board I Love Games on Apr 25, 2016

the controversy/reactionary treehouse keeps on going. as always, david futrelle digs into it so you don't have to

the latest turn is just totally bizarre

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/04/20/social-autopsy-founder-candace-owen-channels-gamergate-in-bizarre-attack-on-zoe-quinn/

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/04/24/socialautopsy-turvy-candace-owens-twitter-trainwreck-part-one/

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/04/25/in-furious-post-socialautopsys-candace-owens-attacks-a-washpo-story-that-isnt-there/

what do we want? ETHAN P
where do we want him? IN THE O.E.D.

— Nitsuh Abebe (@ntabebe) October 27, 2017

nope:

lol @alshipley is in the OED now pic.twitter.com/JoJB18aDEC

— John M. Cunningham (@jmcunning) June 5, 2020

Whoa

well deserved, good work everyone

seeing Billboard getting a 2016 credit is sort of like when Laura Keunssberg explained shitposting!

Fame at last.

I randomly remembered that I'd tweeted at the OED about this, and so it just occurred to me to check to see whether they'd done anything with it. So maybe it's been in there for a while. In any case, what a delight.

too bad Stan isn't here to see all this

I wrote him, but he still ain't calling

Waited outside in the blistering POLL.

lol

Only times I had something to do with them, theyve tried to beat me up, shoot in my direction (pretty close, but only one time) or arrest me. Im glad its in the past. But still, whenever I see a cop I react the same way as when I see a skinhead; with disgust. ACAB, for sure..
― jonperson, Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:03 AM (thirteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Dates back to the 1920s though - when there was no ILX, or even Belle & Sebastian forums.

t/s 4-Skins fanzines vs Belle & Sebastian forums.

wiki page on ACAB is interesting

aged 7 or 8 i remember my dad singing "all coppers are bastards" to the tune of the line "pop does the weasel" when he didn't know i could hear him -- and then (to my mum's tremendous glee) having to explain to me what it means, why someone would say it, and finally why "bastard" is a bad word that it isn't polite to use

lol

well i can't unhear that now

Tim
Posted: 1 August 2001 at 01:00:00
"A million times more greasy than they actually are": are you suggesting some alien-derived mind control which actually makes crisps seem greasier than necessary to us, allowing a reduction in the use of expensive-but-tasty grease in the manufacture of our favourite potato based snack?
And search: bags of those fishy old Scampi Fries containing more than 5 fries. And destroy: Cheese Moments, which surely contain the most repulsive cheese-like substance ever to have been imported from space? Some competition here, I know.

history was made that day

lol guess who said "a million times more greasy than they actually are" tho

(actually "a million times more soggily greasy than they actually are")

WHICH MADE NO MORE SENSE.

On admission I will admit to having put a Scampi Fry between two Bacon Fries and eaten it like a very small sandwich.

apologies to all, i meant a TRILLION times

sense restored

JFC.

Twenty years of this. TWENTY YEARS.

Bob Seger is awesome. Anita Baker? What would anyone have against Anita Baker? She is awesome.
You have to remove "Wonderful, Tonight" and most other classics because I would imagine _someone_ on ILM will be down. And England Dan and JFC are also klassic. Love Is The Answer, indeed.

I would take aim on Hootie or Spin Doctors [Little Miss Can't Be Wrong, anyone?] for ILM most-hated. Semisonic's closing time would be my guess...

BUT I was thinking of Proud To Be An American this morning. I saw it on a bumper sticker and I'm certainly NOT, so... yes... mr. g-wood in tha funkee hiz-ouse.

― Winslow (winslow), Friday, December 13, 2002 7:10 AM (seventeen years ago)

retrospective FP for Cheese Moments heresy

au contraire, tim otm. i've had one cheese moment and it scarred me for life.

no theyre good, you didnt have enough is the fact of it