Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

or when your house is a very very very fine house

My parents had no $$$, which might be why that phase of life was mercifully short

if gyac is irish does that mean deems is allowed in this thread again?

― Yerac, Thursday, 5 March 2020 20:18 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i just been busy!

im indigenous irish btw

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2020/03/05/study-showing-bernie-needs-huge-youth-turnout-is-nonsense/

sanpaku’s favorite chart

Lol Gabbard FFS

#Missouri @EmersonPolling/@NXSTMediaGroup Poll (3/4-5):
Biden 48%
Sanders 44%
Gabbard 2%https://t.co/IYJUGizYXu

— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) March 5, 2020

this doesn't look good for Bernie
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/mi/michigan_democratic_presidential_primary-6835.html

He overperformed by more in 2016, iirc. But yeah, he'll need to do that again, or it's probably over.

538 still not updating their forecast is kinda stressful right now :(

i don't think the biden momentum will last. he was buoyed by the last minute endorsements and the south carolina win -- which was always expected -- but the more scrutiny he gets, the less america will like him. also bernie's turnout will be higher in future contests because i think some supporters were feeling complacent.

source: wishful thinking

i will say that it's bleak that biden is the "moderate" who actually emerged at the end of all that. almost all the others were more compelling. i'm a bernie guy so i never really liked them either, but like, at least klobuchar could make a coherent point at the debate. you know, responding to what others said meaningfully, using evidence...

Still text-banking but it feels like there are a lot of liberals who've started actively convincing themselves that Biden's record isn't real.

honest to god who the fuck is voting for Tulsi?

some people have a crush on her i think. you know, she's from hawaii, she surfs, she takes unpopular stances in congress, i get it.

people who voted for Ron Paul in 2008 or 2012

she is vv pretty

i think that's half of that one percent. the other half are people are very anti-war and for whom that is their main issue.

Bernie could knee cap her by swearing that Medicare For All will cover essential oils

the number of 08 Ron Paul dudes I know who became Bernie bros is a real headscratcher

Paulheads split along the lines of continuing to love weed/hate The Man or fully embraced fascism IME

i don't know. i think these are people who distrust the concentrated power of the elites. and they are open to different ways of trying to break the back of this alliance between state and corporate power.

I had a libertarian phase for a few months when I was 18 too. Unfortunately, the 1997 Canadian election occurred during those months. I voted PC for the only time in my life. (Tbf, they were basically a fringe party at that point.)

they either want one thing....or the total opposite

I used to see an old man all the time driving a minivan that was covered top to bottom in Ron Paul stickers and quotes, I hope he moved out to a compound somewhere to live out his dream and didn't die.

i'm not basing this on anything other than my feeeelings but i figured most paul guys--besides maybe some of the younger ones without fully formed brainz yet--went full on alt-right

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-insidious-libertarian-to-alt-right-pipeline

The personalities may change but the cult mentality remains.

My 75-yr-old Warren-supporting dad reax to the day's news: "This dismal situation frees me from having to think about the primary, as I can't vote of either of these boneheads. But I guess I'll be voting for one of them in the general."

source: wishful thinking

into this, gonna subscribe so they can continue to do the important work

i'm sorry but i just can't support elsevier's rent-seeking any more

Silver lining on today is that I can finally tweet this truly epic shot of Warren staff reacting to Jacob Wohl claiming our boss was having a BDSM affair with a young marine. #GoCougars pic.twitter.com/LcmB1eSnFj

— Lee Sova Claypool (@lee_gsc) March 6, 2020

They laugh, but Jacob Wohl is president and she is not.

Magnificent

Exclusive: For Bernie Sanders, his 1988 trip to the Soviet Union was an effort to build diplomatic ties. For the Soviets, it was the start of a years-long propaganda effort to exploit his antiwar agenda, documents obtained by The New York Times show. https://t.co/I4UsqheKHQ

— The New York Times (@nytimes) March 6, 2020

Not many years, for obvious reasons.

Seriously, more like “months”

You know who else visited the Soviet Union? Lee Harvey Oswald!

is there a rollup of polls of the remaining primary states that compare Sanders and Biden's standings? 538's is tedious and you have to pick state by state and it still has the super tuesday states chooseable which is a pain; but my quick check showed Sanders ahead everywhere (sometimes by huge margins) but Florida and somewhere else.

Liz live on Maddow going on at great length about online abuse, way more than any other issue. Laying into Bernie supporters.

Bad blood. Does not sound conciliatory.

sigh

Quelle surprise

Sounds like Biden making appeal for “decency” and “restoring dignity.”

I guess the rest of her principles are secondary.

Seriously fuck her if she’s going to let a bunch of twitter trolls take priority over the issues she’s been campaigning on for the past year+

Thats the spirit

dude

I mean we do have a climate emergency but let’s put these bullies in their place first

Christ almighty you guys are just never gonna get it, are you?

There's a reason literally everyone else across the spectrum thinks Bernie ppl are assholes. #notallbros I know, but for real. You can't take every single complaint and plea for decency as just more evidence of your righteousness.

It may or may not keep you from getting the nomination, but it's intensely alienating and yes there are a whole lot more people in this country than just you.

Michigan is Tuesday.

There is not a lot of time to right this ship if indeed you care about M4A, gross income inequality, climate catastrophe etc.

But Berniebros are mean, so whatever

I'm watching the Maddow interview now, she sounds fine

Tipsy, I admired your post today on FB. You should post here.

Alfred you must ha e tuned in late

It’s a snake emoji on Twitter, no one burned down a house.

Joe Biden did make it all but impossible to clear student loans via bankruptcy, though.