Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

I can see and understand that lots of people have big disagreements with HL over gender issues, but the curious thing is how she's bad on so many other issues also.

She hates JC; disdains people who speak for socialism or its values; is the kind of person who says 'your regular reminder that Tony Blair won 3 elections'; also likes saying things like 'Sorry to the left misogynists out there, but yes, Theresa May is a persecuted feminist icon - my column for The Atlantic'. She doesn't seem to have a view on whether the UK should stop going to war and bombing more vulnerable countries, but probably thinks that people who bring it up are irrelevant.

I think she's not actually terrible at basic journalism skills - fact-gathering, looking at data, etc - compared to some; but her opinions are so contrarian anti-left that they trash whatever is good about her.

― the pinefox, Thursday, 5 March 2020 13:09 (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is a truly chefs kiss post

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/06/amber-rudd-hits-out-at-rude-oxford-students-after-talk-cancelled

Also quench your thirst on crocodile tears rudd

Why does Helen Lewis always do that...thing with her face?

I felt the strange desire to look at Rudd's daughter's tweet, perhaps just to see if anyone had replied to be snide about the v poor punctuation from people keen to mention "their old Uni", but a quick Google led me to this instead

Florence Gill (born 27 July 1877 – 19 February 1965) was an English actress and voice actress. In Walt Disney's animated films, Gill made a specialty for twenty years of playing hens, including Clara Cluck, The Wise Little Hen and other assorted fowl.

and tbh I think this second sentence has brought me more joy than I'd ever find in the other Florence's twitter so I'm going to stop there

This is spinning out into a bigger, wider employment problem. More than 330 Guardian employees - one fifth of the workforce - have signed a letter to editor Kath Viner expressing concerns about the recent pieces on trans issues. https://t.co/MCcmq2iNyw

— Mark Di Stefano (@MarkDiStef) March 7, 2020

Well they've been trying to cut staff for years. Maybe this is all part of the plan.

Spacecadet is so right -- the Clara Cluck biography puts the controversy of the day in its place.

This is an embarrassment

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/07/however-controversial-woody-allens-memoirs-had-a-right-to-be-published

Totally, considering everyone with even a tenuous link to publishing or journalism knows someone who has been blackballed by a publisher or platform because of existing relationships/conflict of interests with another editor or writer.

Justice4Woody

As far as reasons go 'my sister says that guy molested me' is a pretty fucking good one

Her, not me

if only Woody Allen had some way of making his memoir public without the woke establishment denying him freedom of speech

I absolutely laughed at this

when it dawns on you just how many people have read the ending to 'It' https://t.co/0807SxY0yv

— Wariotifo Classic (@wariotifo) March 7, 2020

“muzzled”.

i mean i know we know this but not getting published is not getting “muzzled”.

it's almost as if the Graun is deliberately trolling us for clicks

"gaslighting", if you will

in today's priggish, censorious culture would a classic of the canon like If I Did It make it to print?

conflating prudish and homophobic Mary Whitehouse style censorship with a publisher bumping a book by a filthy old nonce is a very dodgy argument.

it's just Brendan O'Noes using a nom de plum innit?

Moore out.

Moore out.

So good you had to say it twice.

This is also real. pic.twitter.com/8jq35GXzdm

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) March 8, 2020

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/08/the-coronavirus-outbreak-shows-us-that-no-one-can-take-on-this-enemy-alone

gaslighting u say

People you were surprised and disappointed to find out were still alive

Anyway cheers for the dn Suzanne, sorry that other people's human rights drove you to psychedics

The Spectator has got your back tho, maybe get a gig with them, your values seem to align

psydechics with ernie reyes jr tbh

Dammit that wd've been better

No wait

There we go

sorry, just off to write a graphic novel about Suzanne's psychedelic terf odyssey

nice

not just the Spectator that has her back, Irvine Welsh was one of her other apologists last night

She’ll probably end up there. Saw Alex “Petain was underappreciated” Mass13 sneering out his support for her.

This is not as serious as the shit that usually clogs up this thread, but still!

What, I wondered, was I doing all this for? Was it worth it simply to spend the evening with a couple we didn’t really like, drink insipid wine and make shallow small-talk about other people we don’t really know or want to spend time with?

It started with something of an online “cull”. The “friend” who always tried to make her life look like something out of a Boden catalogue with never-ending perfect images of her children along with the nauseating hashtag #blessed.

i stopped making the effort with the people who leave it to me to initiate every meet-up and nurture friendships that, in the words of Marie Kondo, no longer spark joy. Those who I had to bite my tongue with, who looked at their phone constantly while I was talking to them. Those who cancelled meet-ups one too many times or who I saw out of a sense of obligation and duty rather than want. The friend who said “Have you really?” in an incredulous way after I told her I’d lost weight.

There appears to be an almost limitless demand for pieces like that, makes me nostalgic for the glory days of Tanya Gold being disinvited from her friend's wedding in the Guardian comments box.

The real glory days of Max on holiday

which ilxors no longer spark joy

All goth ILXors iirc.

The friend cull article is insane.

If you actually don't value people, don't make an effort to see them. If you do, then maybe do.

That's about it.

pinefox write for the guardian

He can't. Suzanne Moore is still writing for them.

Is that confirmed? I thought her incoherent posts meant they had parted ways.

yeah I thought she had quit and then spotted her 'not sorry' piece. they really are out to bait.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/10/i-wish-everyone-strength-however-they-identify-suzanne-moore?CMP=share_btn_tw

yep, it still says Suzanne Moore is a Guardian columnist under today's piece.

UGH

Read the first sentences and fuck’s sake. Why can these fuckers never stop reducing women to their body parts?! I was raised to think that kind of thing was reductive and at best misogynistic. Like, being female is more than your ability to bleed and breed ffs.

Like she has literally never got past the self-mythologising and the symbolism and I bet she’s 100% one of those people who used to scoff at people painting with period blood, but now sees that with a fresh respect. I’m sorry, I hate it.

i would love to live in a world made only of discourse.