Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

huh. reporting from california i haven't seen a single one of these ads yet.

pfft xpost, blame YMCA wifi that took 23 minutes to post

shocked to discover rambling going on re this establishment

I feel like we should have realized this whole 'Sanders can never win over James Clyburn' thing sooner, so we could have avoided wasting time supporting a candidate who had no shot in hell of winning the nomination?

if I was running attack ads I wouldn't bother running them in California tbf

but hey when Joe finally realizes his dream and strikes that grand bargain to cut SS at least we can say no one was able to make any bad faith arguments about who "The Establishment" actually is

We will blame that on Bernie for not kissing Clyburn's ass enough.

bad faith arguments about who "The Establishment" actually is

Take it up w milo and silby, who have made those arguments in this v thread

It’s almost as if painting all your opposition w a broad brush might have some negative, totally predictable consequences

Meanwhile, machinations at work:

Top surrogates and allies of Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are discussing ways for their two camps to unite and push a common liberal agenda, with the expectation that Warren is likely to leave the presidential campaign soon, according to two people familiar with the talks.

The conversations, which are in an early phase, largely involve members of Congress who back Sanders (I-Vt.) reaching out to those in Warren's camp to explore the prospect that Warren (D-Mass.) might endorse him. They are also appealing to Warren's supporters to switch their allegiance to Sanders, according two people with direct knowledge of the conversations who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss delicate discussions that are supposed to be confidential.

The whirlwind of activity reflects the rapid changes in a Democratic primary that is still very much in transition. As late as Tuesday, many Warren allies believed she would stay in the race until the Democratic convention, despite her poor showing to date in the primaries, in hopes of retaining her clout and influencing the eventual nominee.

Keep banging that drum, Shakes.

I feel like we are running around in circles...

It's just so frustrating. I feel like it was pointed out repeatedly that Sanders couldn't win unless he improved his vote share in the south, and that he should probably adjust his strategy to make sure that happened. And four years later, it feels like exactly the same thing happens as last time.

The Sanders-Obama ad shows the obstinacy and ignorance of whoever runs his campaign (won't look it up). Why didn't he run it last fall? Sanders voted to confirm Tim FUCKING Geitner. He could've kept his independence while still attaching himself to the most popular Dem in the country, and he would've forced his fans to accept it. Instead, he encouraged the perception that the most popular Dem scion in the country was part of the corrupt DNC WHOA NELLY.

come on machinations xxp

Impressed, y'all only bludgeoned that thing for a couple hours but nobody would ever guess that it used to be a horse.

xposts natch

...reaching out to those in Warren's camp to explore the prospect that Warren (D-Mass.) might endorse him. They are also appealing to Warren's supporters to switch their allegiance to Sanders...

Seems to me the first half of that strategy is likely to be undermined by the second half of that strategy.

i am hoping for the best in that particular department

xxposts lol that's not machinations that's vultures circling

iirc she's not a Real Progressive so idk why they'd want her endorsement

she was tearing into him like 36 hours ago lol

yeah and a lot of things have happened in 36 hours

You wanna call Richmond and Clyburn etc the "establishment", you're writing off their voters

Howmst does this fucking follow, shakey

Bernie should obviously reject Warren's endorsement, jeez. Doesn't he know she used to be a Republican? What a sell-out.

Anyway, she doesn't need to endorse him, she just needs to release all his voters she's been holding captive in her mountain lair and things will sort themselves out.

Howmst does this fucking follow, shakey

― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, March 4, 2020 5:09 PM (one minute ago)

sincerely spell out the steps in this syllogism so me, a histrionic idiot, can follow them

too easy, too easy

b/c right now all I see is

1. I, silby, and Bernie Sanders, call James Clyburn, the third-ranking Democrat in the House, who endorsed Joe Biden, the consensus pick of the Democratic Party establishment, a member of the Democratic Party establishment
ergo 2. I, silby, and Bernie Sanders, consider people who have voted for James Clyburn in the past to be…what, not worthy of notice? Fake voters? Bad Democrats? Sheeple? What the fuck are you saying, exactly

*waves giant flag that says "stop!!!"*

I'm spending the rest of the spring inside my house to avoid catching the 'vid so I will never stop

7th or 8th time is the charm eh?

Those voters love him and follow his lead. Alienate the leaders, you alienate their voters

Xps

Sounds like you don't think much of those voters!

easily led, those James Clyburn voters, says Shakey

something like 13% of black men voted for Trump. all you Trump haters sure have egg on your face now!!

(black male voters, I should say)

When you're so eager to call someone racist that you make incredibly patronizing arguments...

oop!

Shakey do you think women should get the vote or will they just be swayed by their husbands

silby, you think you should take a break after posting continuously for 30 hours?

I good a good night's sleep!

*got

very close to embedding the video of taylor swift's "you need to calm down" itt

I don't click on videos usually

Lock
This
Fuckin
Thread

And

Sleep for 72 hours

Everybody

Amazing how the 2016 election basically slid the cheese off your crackers but it's 2020 guys

Impressed, y'all only bludgeoned that thing for a couple hours but nobody would ever guess that it used to be a horse.

― Waifu-ed Around and Fell in Love (Old Lunch), Wednesday, March 4

haha!

hey so while we’re sorting all this out can someone explain what would have if instead of ~carefully coordinating their campaign suspensions like mean girls~ Mayor Pete and Abusive Boss Amy had dropped out a couple of weeks ago?

counterfactuals are banned

I feel like so much of this thread is "oh no Biden won" -- Bloomberg is gone, Warren will probably be gone soon, 2/3 of the delegates are left -- millions and millions of people are going to get to choose between Sanders and Biden and we'll just see! If more people like Sanders he'll win! He was strong in the Midwest before, why not now?